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Toyota joins the Linux Foundation, find out why

By Emil · 25 replies
Jul 6, 2011
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  1. Toyota has joined the The Linux Foundation, the nonprofit organization dedicated to accelerating the growth of Linux, as a Gold member. Why exactly is a car company joining the Linux Foundation?…

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  2. Better then letting Windows handle your ABS and Crash sensing technologies. The damn thing would BSOD as you're going uphill and car will roll back.
  3. gwailo247

    gwailo247 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,007   +18

    Maybe its time to stop using XP on your 10 year old Dell, and get with the times.
  4. BrianUMR

    BrianUMR TS Rookie Posts: 44

    When was the last time someone had a BSOD? It has been a really really long time for me. Last problems I had was bad caps so it didn't matter if I was in BIOS, windows, linux or you name it. My android phone which is kind of linux seems to reboot at a pretty good rate.
  5. Next thing you'll see is someone driving around in a Toyota vehicle hacking people's wireless networks...
  6. PinothyJ

    PinothyJ TS Guru Posts: 490   +38

    Well BSoD is a problem between a hardware device on your computer and the software running it so would it be more the problem fo the driver and hardware manufacturers than Windows?

    Just saying…
  7. Linux happens to be used everywhere if longer uptime is needed. Rebooting every few days for patches isn't good. Unplugging the battery of your car/laptop would be/is "featured" with M$ Windows.

    and, just to mention, Linux is being used in far more than pc and phones. How about NAS, SAN, 98% of the network appliances... Pretty much anywhere rebooting in under 5 years is not desired.
  8. gwailo247

    gwailo247 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 2,007   +18

    I've seen a BSOD twice in my recent memory on Windows 7, one time I was running Fallout 3 with a sick amount of mods, weather, etc, and my video crashed, another time I was streaming a 12 GB mkv file from another computer on my network. I consider both to be rather extreme cases that taxed my system.

    Besides this, no problems whatsoever.

    People who complain about BSODs in 2011 either need to retire their 10 year old beige box or need to learn how to use a computer.
  9. Det

    Det TS Enthusiast Posts: 84

    Well, Windows (especially 7) is not as bad as a lot of the linux folks say and Linux is not as bad as lot of the Windows folks say. I've never had a BSOD since the early days of Windows Vista and my linux boxes (Arch on my PC or Android on my Desire Z) haven't had kernel panics either (unless I've done some funny toying around myself).

    I actually use Windows (7) quite a lot these days even though I _know_ my Arch/linux is superior in many aspects. I just usually begin the day with firing up some games then am too lazy to reboot to Arch. Why should I anyway. Windows works just fine (although I'm a bit worried about the size of my registry - no matter how much I clean it it still has grown all the way up to something like 110M alltogether).

    BrianUMR, if your Android "reboots at a pretty good rate" then it's a really bad device (low-end or otherwise faulty). If it's not the hardware it can be caused by some external software too. Rebooting like that shouldn't happen and it's not something "normal for Android because it's linux and linux sucks".
  10. Archean

    Archean TechSpot Paladin Posts: 5,634   +98

    +1 gailo & Brian

    Although I must admit I have had BSODs on this DV6 (which I bought about 5-6 weeks ago) but they were due to some issues with Connectify & Wireless adapter on this notebook. Hence the OS had nothing to do with the issue.
  11. "Rebooting every few days for patches isn't good."

    Someone needs to get outside more, and not sit in front of their computer 24/7.
  12. Good news for Linux. :)
  13. Xclusiveitalian

    Xclusiveitalian TS Evangelist Posts: 782   +163

    I can't imagine full PC's powered by linux OS in cars. Shouldn't you be driving? It's impressive what car batteries can power though. Toyota's will have higher insurance because they "crash" twice as much! jk =p
  14. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 11,208   +4,877

    I think it's funny at how one of the most expensive things people buy is now being packaged with free-ware. Too bad the rest of the car couldn't be built with free merchandise!
  15. Leeky

    Leeky TS Evangelist Posts: 3,357   +116

    I got them quite regularly with my last build - running Windows 7 Pro x64. That was a couple of months ago, before it torched itself! :haha:

    Linux never had an issue running on the same hardware though! ;)

    That "freeware" powers the majority of the servers online - not bad for something free hey.... Linux is a considerably better option when running custom software, or a custom OS for a particular purpose.

    Microsoft has come a long way since XP, but I still wouldn't want it having anything to do with the safety systems in my car. It just isn't made for that.
  16. Det

    Det TS Enthusiast Posts: 84

    I didn't really understand this but if you think linux crashes more often than Windows then you just don't know about stuff.
  17. Xclusiveitalian

    Xclusiveitalian TS Evangelist Posts: 782   +163

    It was just a joke, i know Linux is more stable than Windows =p I meant it as since it's not just the car crashing but the OS as-well(if it did) than you would have 2 crashes...double the insurance =p
  18. old guy at work got B.S.O.D the other day

    another disgruntled windows user

    posted using Linux OS
  19. ET3D

    ET3D TechSpot Paladin Posts: 1,645   +304

    Desktop Linux is a lot less compatible with new PC hardware than Windows. I don't think any Linux user would dispute that.
  20. TorturedChaos

    TorturedChaos TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 821   +29

    The only main stream part I have ever had troubles with using Linux is wireless cards. I really wish there was better support for certain chipsets. I know its not necessarily Linux's fault since it seems some of the wireless chip manufactures don't want to play with Linux, but it still frustrating.
    Everything else I have used in a standard desktop/laptop with Linux on it has worked fine, and in many cases worked w/o me having to do anything.
    I know Windows7 has gotten a lot better about driver issues (always hated driver hunting on XP, especially the for the Ethernet card), and finding at least generic drivers through the updates, but I still hate driver hunting.

    As for Linux in my car I just view it as one more thing that can break and screw me over in a vehicle. I prefer my cars to be simpler and easier to work on.
  21. Leeky

    Leeky TS Evangelist Posts: 3,357   +116

    I would, with the exception of wireless devices, Linux is generally in my experiences much better at identifying, and automatically configuring hardware I throw at it.

    Two area's let down sometimes though are GPU's and Wireless as previously mentioned. Still, Window's isn't much better at GPU configuration without the drivers (which is all Linux also needs) and wireless sometimes needs them in Windows as well.

    So all in all, its pretty even these days, and Linux is certainly no worse than Windows in those respects. I dare say Linux has a much greater level of compatibility when you consider legacy hardware as well.
  22. lmike6453

    lmike6453 TS Enthusiast Posts: 100   +6

    Great now you can watch porn as you drive as an alternative to road head.
  23. Leeky

    Leeky TS Evangelist Posts: 3,357   +116

    Or be driving, getting road head, whilst watching porn with the gf/wife/female companion! :D
  24. Archean

    Archean TechSpot Paladin Posts: 5,634   +98

    Sounds like a very very dangerous plan ............ for others, who are unfortunate enough to be on the same road :evil:
  25. Leeky

    Leeky TS Evangelist Posts: 3,357   +116

    Depends how straight the road is! :haha:

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