AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D vs. 9700X: 3D V-Cache Still Going Hard!

[robert40]

They have to do the CPU testing with a 4090 in 1080p or even lower. Like every other benchmarking site. Otherwise the charts would be very boring for the readers.

In 4k I.e., one would think of the 9700x and 5800x3D as the same, almost to the point identical in gaming performance. The same goes with a GPU like a 3060 12GB or RX 6600 8GB, which seems more proportional to 1080p. So a CPU review needs to artificially create a CPU bound situation, and the 4090 with it's power is a godsend for that, even if it doesn't reesemle a real life scenario for a 4090.

So if you want to have some benchmarks with differences to talk about, you need to tolerate that. If you game at 4k or even 1440p, and or if you use a GPU <4090, like a 7800xt or 4070 or even slower ones, differences between CPUs will be smaller, of course depending in the games. Because then the situation changes to a GPU bound real world scenario, which is where most of us are or want to be in reality, and then even a slower CPU seems to perform on par with faster ones. But those reviews are telling us something important, nonetheless: How those CPUs will presumably age with new hardware (GPUs) and new software (games).

For example: Do prepare for lots and lots of 'absurd' 1080p reviews with the even mightier 5090, once it launches. Seems absurd, okay. But it's logical. Because you need the fastest GPU and lowest resolutions to clearly show the differences in CPU performance in this context. And a 5090, and that's the point, will show greater differences of the CPUs than todays flagship, the 4090. Those reviews will provide us with a better view on what type of silicon will age better with the faster GPUs and more demanding games of the future.

becouse this is cpu test)) 1080p works cpu 1440p and 4k 8k works gpu
that is way I do not need better cpu than my 5800x3d becouse no benefit in 1044p or higher
gpu is most inportant

 

[JuanDegr]

becouse this is cpu test)) 1080p works cpu 1440p and 4k 8k works gpu
that is way I do not need better cpu than my 5800x3d becouse no benefit in 1044p or higher
gpu is most inportant

Thanks for explaining me what I explained. That's the best kind of adding value

 

[Strawman]

Dear Lord, yet another pointless 4090@1080p benchmark. This is so silly

But no doubt there will be a lot of sage pontificating in the comments, as if these results had some meanigful bearing on real life scenarios.

Also, saying that 5800X3D wasn't an expensive CPU is an icing on the cake. And 5xxx X family still remains a better proposition for somebody on a tight budget.

I assume you were saying the same 2 years ago about the 1080p 3090 tests. Well, they ended up being useful when I upgraded my 3090 to the 4090.

 

[Hom3r]

I purchased the 5600X3D 8 months ago. Best upgrade ever and just a few percent slower than the 5800X3D.

5700X3D is 5-10% slower than 5800X3D and still a 8C/16T part.

5600X3D is 6C/12T it is more than "a few percent slower" for sure.

Still a decent gaming chip but probably alot slower in the most demanding games, that likes 8 cores.

 

[fluffydroid]

5700X3D is 5-10% slower than 5800X3D and still a 8C/16T part.

5600X3D is 6C/12T it is more than "a few percent slower" for sure.

Still a decent gaming chip but probably alot slower in the most demanding games, that likes 8 cores.

AMD X3D CPU Versus: 5800X3D vs 5700X3D vs 5600X3D

We compare the three X3D chips available on the AM4 platform: the Ryzen 5 5600X3D, Ryzen 7 5700X3D, and Ryzen 7 5800X3D to see which model offers...

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5600X3D was 3% slower than the 5800X3D.
5600X3D was 2% faster than the 5700X3D.
It will vary from game to game. Most games still prefer clock speed over number of cores, which is why the 5600X3D can outperform the 5700X3D.

 

[Hom3r]

AMD X3D CPU Versus: 5800X3D vs 5700X3D vs 5600X3D

We compare the three X3D chips available on the AM4 platform: the Ryzen 5 5600X3D, Ryzen 7 5700X3D, and Ryzen 7 5800X3D to see which model offers...

www.techspot.com

5600X3D was 3% slower than the 5800X3D.
5600X3D was 2% faster than the 5700X3D.
It will vary from game to game. Most games still prefer clock speed over number of cores, which is why the 5600X3D can outperform the 5700X3D.

If you remove all the games that don't scale past 6 cores, then result is different.

Looking at overall difference across multiple games don't really make sense when alot of the games don't show much difference. More and more games wants 8 cores these days, 8 is sweet spot, there is no reason to buy a 6 core chip unless budget is low.

 

[Starfals]

5700X3D is good value (5800X3D is EOL and only 5% faster) but it won't come close to a 7800X3D or even a higher end Raptor Lake chip in most games. Also some games scale very well with DDR5.

Can't wait for 9800X3D. First 3D chip that won't get gimped on clockspeeds. Leaks look very promising. Like 20% improved ST and 30% improved MT perf over 7800X3D in Cinebench. That is impressive.

9800X3D is going to the the ultimate gaming chip, beating 9900X3D and 9950X3D too, due to being single CCD. Single CCD is always prefered for gaming.

3D cache is way less sensitive with 9000X3D in general. Clockspeeds will be way higher this time.

Might even replace my 7800X3D with a 9800X3D as I am CPU bound in many games (360 Hz user, might be going 480 Hz in the next year)

I got 7800X3D too. We shall see. I dont really trust leaks. What if the performance is just 5-10% more? Thats a super meh upgrade. Even at 20%, idk if its worth it. Good that you think it is, you found a reason to upgrade with the super high fps. Cool and all.. but yeah. I got a bad feeling it wont be that much. Ofc I hope for the best as well but time will tell. Its not long now. Will you buy it if its just 8% faster? What about 5? or 10? Im curious.

 

[ChaosWatcher77]

I would be interested to see this test using windows 10 instead of windows 11