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Apple unveils its first iPhones worthy of the "Pro" moniker

By Shawn Knight · 33 replies
Sep 10, 2019
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  1. Apple during a press gathering at the Steve Jobs Theater on Tuesday announced a swarm of new products including two high-end iPhones.

    The iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max feature 5.8-inch (2,436 x 1,125 resolution) and 6.4-inch (2,688 x 1,242 resolution) Super Retina XDR OLED displays, respectively – both with 458 pixels per inch. Apple said the screens afford a 2,000,000:1 contrast ratio, HDR and more, yet are 15 percent more energy efficient than before. It’s the brightest display ever in an iPhone at 1,200 nits of peak brightness.

    They’re manufactured out of surgical grade stainless steel with a matte textured finish in four colors – midnight green, space grey, silver and gold – and are backed by an IP68 rating.

    Arguably the biggest addition to the iPhone 11 Pro series is the rear-facing triple camera array. This square camera hump packs in a 12-megapixel wide-angle camera (26mm, f/1.8) with optical image stabilization, a 12-megapixel telephoto camera (52mm, f/2.0) with OIS and focus pixels and a 12-megapixel ultra-wide camera (13mm, f/2.4) with a 120-degree field of view. Across the range of cameras, you effectively get 4x optical zoom.

    Each of the rear cameras can also shoot 4K 60 FPS video with extended dynamic range and video stabilization. The audio zoom feature is said to match the audio to the video framing for more dynamic sound.

    Apple also briefly touched on a new camera feature called Deep Fusion that takes the best pixels from nine images and fuses them together into a single photo. It is due out later this fall via software update, we’re told.

    As for battery life, the new iPhone 11 Pro delivers up to four hours more battery life than the iPhone Xs while the iPhone 11 Pro Max can run for up to five hours longer than the iPhone Xs Max.

    Other noteworthy features include support for Dolby Atmos, Gigabit-class LTE at speeds up to 1.6Gbps and Wi-Fi 6 as well as Dual SIM and eSIM support. Face ID, meanwhile, now works 30 percent faster and boasts improved performance at varying distances.

    The new iPhone 11 Pro models will be available to pre-order starting at 5 a.m. Pacific on Friday, September 13. They launch a week later on September 20 starting at $999 for the iPhone 11 Pro and $1,099 for the iPhone 11 Pro Max in capacities of 64GB. Models with 256GB and 512GB of local storage are also available.

    The iPhone XR and iPhone 8 are also sticking around for another cycle with lowered prices starting at $599 and $499, respectively.

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  2. Lounds

    Lounds TS Maniac Posts: 243   +168

    So basically brings nothing new to the table Vs high end android manufacturers for even more money. The cost for "high end" phone is ridiculous these days.
  3. toooooot

    toooooot TS Evangelist Posts: 955   +454

    700 is too expensive for a cheap Iphone. At least rename it to expensive iphone for a slight price increase to 800.
  4. QuantumPhysics

    QuantumPhysics TS Evangelist Posts: 1,635   +1,232

    The pricing is not much different than the XS Max. I looked specifically at the largest 512GB model and at 1449 it's most likely gonna cost the same $1567 I paid for my XS Max.

    I agree with those saying it brings nothing "new" to the table and I'm betting they're gonna have a problem moving these as well as they moved iPhone XS/Max.

    All I wanted was 1TB of Storage.

    I guess I won't get that till next year :(

    I had my Apple Card all warmed up and ready to buy.
    psycros likes this.
  5. MonsterZero

    MonsterZero TS Evangelist Posts: 582   +334

    I don't think Apple will ever sell you a 1TB device without asking for a kidney in return.

    You should go to Android, at least with the Note10+ you get 256GB plus the ability to install an SD card with up to 1TB of storage for less than that XS max, not to mention hella better battery life.
    amghwk and p51d007 like this.
  6. GregonMaui

    GregonMaui TS Booster Posts: 175   +61

    Gone are the days when people actually cared about CPU/GPU speed. Last year's iPhones were faster than this yea'r androids and this year's iPhones are crazy faster than the counterparts, but all you hear are "nothing new to the table". Screens, well, "virtually indistinguishable from reality" is just that, and has been for years. Even if this year's iPhones sport almost reference display specs. Cameras, it's all in the software and DSP now, so we'll have to wait. I mean there are still clowns out there who say the Pixel has better cameras (that, when spec for spec there is no magic in the Pixel) - no it's the software, stupid, the Pixels have some incredivbly good software for low light among other things. Time will tell how machine learning amongst the majors compares.
    cybort and p51d007 like this.
  7. QuantumPhysics

    QuantumPhysics TS Evangelist Posts: 1,635   +1,232

    I absolutely don't want Android or anything currently on the market running Android.

    I want a 1TB iPhone.

    I've got a $10,000 limit on my Apple Card and enough cash to repay it immediately so I get my points.

    No kidney transplants required.
    warLoc likes this.
  8. p51d007

    p51d007 TS Evangelist Posts: 2,069   +1,322

    LOL, you have to wonder if the so called iSheep, are starting to wake up from their sleep about buying a over expensive phone every couple years. Every time they come out with a new phone, I'm still reminded of this old video, lDIOTS - iPhone Parody, and, it goes for some Android users as well ;)

  9. pencea

    pencea TS Maniac Posts: 174   +127

    Well keep waiting then.
  10. Avenger001

    Avenger001 TS Booster Posts: 58   +44

    I feel like its all this financing that keeps driving up the price of these mobile devices.
  11. QuantumPhysics

    QuantumPhysics TS Evangelist Posts: 1,635   +1,232

    Apple is the epitome of Capitalism and they produce a product people want.

    Pro models may move slow but 11’s - just like XR models - will move just fine.

    Galaxy Fold and Hua Wei Mate X on the other hand...
    warLoc likes this.
  12. PEnnn

    PEnnn TS Addict Posts: 148   +121

    When it comes to creativity with names, it seems tech companies (especially the big ones!) are really, really not creative.

    "Pro"...Seriously?? What does that mean, the 6, 8, 10 IPhones are amateur-ish and the new "Pro" is professional??
    How many times have we seen soft and hardware companies slap "Pro" on their new versions? Pathetic!!

    Hire somebody creative whose job is to end this "Pro" misery, sheesh!!
  13. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 11,584   +5,140

    After stating they produced a product you didn't want. Hmm!!
    Arris, pencea, Gmachine and 2 others like this.
  14. QuantumPhysics

    QuantumPhysics TS Evangelist Posts: 1,635   +1,232

    No matter how much apple-haters troll, they'll still be Number 2.

    iPhone didn’t get 1TB.

    But I definitely want Watch5.
    Last edited: Sep 10, 2019
  15. cliffordcooley

    cliffordcooley TS Guardian Fighter Posts: 11,584   +5,140

    I don't want to be "Number 1", if that means I have to use Apple.
    Alexmx, pencea and Skjorn like this.
  16. Skjorn

    Skjorn TS Maniac Posts: 405   +226

    Plz stop this inferno
    cliffordcooley likes this.
  17. Lifeispossible

    Lifeispossible TS Enthusiast Posts: 28

    How much are they this time like 2 thousand dollars
  18. Kashim

    Kashim TS Addict Posts: 160   +148

    Nobody cares what you want. Just bend over for Apple and take it like a good little fanboy. :)
    pencea likes this.
  19. Stormbreaker

    Stormbreaker TS Enthusiast Posts: 21   +36

    There seems to be an unwritten rule that every phone manufacturer needs to release a new model every year. They can do it every three years while providing more support for the existing model. It would actually be a brave thing to try.
  20. BigBoomBoom

    BigBoomBoom TS Booster Posts: 66   +62

    Because then they would be behind their competitors. In fact Huawei, Samsung, Oppo, Xiaomi all release TWO phones each year. S and Note, P and Mate, 7 and 7T, Mi 9 and Mi Mix 4, Reno Zoom and Reno Zoom 2. All with incremental update, with S+ is now so big it's bigger than smaller Note there is less distinguishable features between them (S Pen).

    Won't be long before Apple do the same as their sale go down yet again. More models = hopefully more unit sales.
  21. Alexmx

    Alexmx TS Enthusiast Posts: 41   +14

    Those are attempts at innovation, a mere creative exercise if you will.

    Give apple some time, and if those foldable phones are here to stay, you might be able to see an apple branded one in three or five years.

    I mean, it took them almost six years to get quick charge and five-ish for wireless charging.
  22. fktech

    fktech TS Maniac Posts: 532   +141

    Nope, not going to do it. Waiting for the I in innovation.
  23. MonsterZero

    MonsterZero TS Evangelist Posts: 582   +334

    I think you misunderstood, Apple will NEVER give you a 1TB phone.
    pencea likes this.
  24. QuantumPhysics

    QuantumPhysics TS Evangelist Posts: 1,635   +1,232

    Wrong... they usually do it exactly like this. They introduce a new storage size and keep it for 2 years before introducing the next.

    iPhone 7 introduced 256GB.
    iPhone 8 kept 256GB.
    iPhone X was released with iPhone 8 and kept 256GB.
    iPhone XS Max introduced 512GB.
    iPhone Pro kept the 512GB.
    iPhone 12 will offer 1TB.

    The real problem is that 4K recording chews up storage space in a way that 1080p didn't. So long as storage space increases while 4K 60FPS video remains the standard, I get far more usable space for making, editing and finalizing videos on the phone. If they move to a higher standard like 8K which I doubt will happen, then that 1TB iPhone will be a necessity.

    Thing is: social media downgrades my videos from 4K to 720p in most cases and downgrades picture files as well.

    Even if they had an 8K camera and a 2TB storage right now I really wouldn't see any benefits from it unless I had astronomically priced equipment to watch products on.

    Just watch a year from now and you can come back here and tell me I was right.
    Last edited: Sep 11, 2019
  25. QuantumPhysics

    QuantumPhysics TS Evangelist Posts: 1,635   +1,232

    Quick Charging and wireless charging both cause the phones to heat up.

    Heat is an enemy of battery life and longevity.

    Apple doesn't rush into these things like its opposition which does. Sure with those silly Android phones and their plastic backs you can just peel them off and insert a new cheap Shen Zhen-made battery, but apple doesn't do things like that till they've perfected it.

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