Arctic ice melt is slowing down, but climate change could soon come back biting

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In a nutshell: Although global temperatures continue to rise, Arctic sea ice hasn't declined as quickly as models predicted. Scientists warn that this temporary slowdown likely won't change the long-term trend of ice loss, underscoring the persistent risks to the planet and future generations.

A new study highlights a minimal decline in Arctic sea ice, noting that losses have slowed significantly over the past two decades. Researchers report a "robust" pause across multiple data sets, metrics, and seasons. While notable, the trend isn't unusual and could "plausibly" persist for the next five to ten years.

Researchers attribute the pause in ice loss to natural variations in ocean currents, which can limit the Arctic's melting phase. Fluctuations in Atlantic and Pacific currents affect how much warm water enters the Arctic Ocean, which experiences regular seasonal cycles. Ice melts during spring and summer and rebounds in fall and winter.

These natural variations will not significantly alter the eventual decline of the Arctic ice pack. Climate change and global warming are "unequivocally real," the researchers warn, and the Arctic Ocean is likely to experience its first ice-free summer within this century.

The study analyzed two distinct Arctic ice data sets spanning 1979 to 2024. Researchers examined ice levels for every month of each year and identified the slowdown in ice loss. They then compared the findings with "thousands" of climate model runs, confirming that the event is not unprecedented.

Ice loss slowdowns typically occur only once or twice per century. However, all simulated models indicate that the melting phase will accelerate again after the pause. Long-term trends show that, between 1979 and 2024, every ton of CO2 emitted into the atmosphere caused 2.5 square meters of ice loss in September.

To put it simply, a Day After Tomorrow scenario is unlikely anytime soon, but preparation remains crucial. Data show Arctic ice thins by 0.6cm each year. Although the rate of surface warming has slowed at times, excess heat continues accumulating in the atmosphere, driving global temperatures higher.

"It is good to explain to people that the slowdown is happening, else they are going to hear it from someone who is trying to use it in bad faith as a way to undermine our very solid understanding of what's happening with climate change," Northumbria University Professor Andrew Shepherd said about the study.

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Funny, over the last eight years-global cooling, at a rate of 0.11 deg C/decade.

https://junkscience.com/2023/01/mil...ter-abuzz-even-musk-admits-he-is-no-believer/

The author also posted an article about arguing with a LLM AI over global temperatures and after lying 4 times that it went up, even the AI admitted global temps had cooled over 5 years after the author asked the AI to check the data at NOAA over those 5 years. This happened a year or two ago.

I have no idea if the overall trend is up or down, all I know is that one side doesn't want to have the discussion. And people who have made up their minds without any discussion tend to, shall we say, exaggerate their information.

Or, they say: "Yeah, it's cooling now, but just you wait, someday it will get hot."
 
Someday, those with Geophysics degrees and a thorough understanding of thermodynamics will be ready to have a conversation about the Earth literally freezing from the inside out.

And that's before the Sun evaporates and incinerates the Earth in its Red Giant phase.

But for now, I'll just stay quiet.
 
So despite emissions still being pumped out and the population continuing to consume more, the melting is....slowing down? Huh?

Watch this get memory holed just like the "florida will be underwater by 2020 if we dont cut emissions in half" speech (emissions doubled instead, yet florida is still kicking).
 
It was WARMER 100,000 years ago according to NOAA. If it was WARMER 100,000 years ago, without humans & "the industrial revolution/burning fossil fuels" then how did it get so warm?
The Earth has a cycle...but since we do not EDUCATE people about how things work, they believe all of this nonsense called global warming. Whoops! I meant climate change. Uh oh! I meant climate emergency.


Arctic sea ice hasn't declined as quickly as models predicted.
 
Funny, over the last eight years-global cooling, at a rate of 0.11 deg C/decade.

https://junkscience.com/2023/01/mil...ter-abuzz-even-musk-admits-he-is-no-believer/

The author also posted an article about arguing with a LLM AI over global temperatures and after lying 4 times that it went up, even the AI admitted global temps had cooled over 5 years after the author asked the AI to check the data at NOAA over those 5 years. This happened a year or two ago.

I have no idea if the overall trend is up or down, all I know is that one side doesn't want to have the discussion. And people who have made up their minds without any discussion tend to, shall we say, exaggerate their information.

Or, they say: "Yeah, it's cooling now, but just you wait, someday it will get hot."
Steve Milloy is full of baloney. The globe isn't cooling. Here are the global satellite temps:
https://www.drroyspencer.com/
The graph is still going up as a trend, not down. Whether that's man-made, catastrophic or natural, I have no opinion.
 
It was WARMER 100,000 years ago according to NOAA. If it was WARMER 100,000 years ago, without humans & "the industrial revolution/burning fossil fuels" then how did it get so warm?
The Earth has a cycle...but since we do not EDUCATE people about how things work, they believe all of this nonsense called global warming.

This is your argument? Because it warmed without human emissions 100,000 years ago, it cant possibly be the case now? Of course the Earth has a cycle. Has it been proven that cycle can't be disturbed by anthropogenic sources? I don't think so.
 
This is your argument? Because it warmed without human emissions 100,000 years ago, it cant possibly be the case now? Of course the Earth has a cycle. Has it been proven that cycle can't be disturbed by anthropogenic sources? I don't think so.
I think a pile of rocks would listen to your comment better than anyone who posted to this thread prior to your post.

Each of their posts seems stuck on "arctic ice loss slowing." Its almost as if they skipped past these two paragraphs from the article:
Ice loss slowdowns typically occur only once or twice per century. However, all simulated models indicate that the melting phase will accelerate again after the pause. Long-term trends show that, between 1979 and 2024, every ton of CO2 emitted into the atmosphere caused 2.5 square meters of ice loss in September.

To put it simply, a Day After Tomorrow scenario is unlikely anytime soon, but preparation remains crucial. Data show Arctic ice thins by 0.6cm each year. Although the rate of surface warming has slowed at times, excess heat continues accumulating in the atmosphere, driving global temperatures higher.
Then again, I don't think comprehension is to be expected from this crowd.
 
I think a pile of rocks would listen to your comment better than anyone who posted to this thread prior to your post.

Each of their posts seems stuck on "arctic ice loss slowing." Its almost as if they skipped past these two paragraphs from the article:

Then again, I don't think comprehension is to be expected from this crowd.
I dont want to hear jabs at comprehension from a crowd that still parades around their "models" that get proven wrong every 5-6 years, with the same excuse of "well our science and tools are better now so THIS time we'll be correct". Something something "definition of insanity" something something.

The overwhelming majority of climate predictions have either been flat out wrong (see again, florida being above water) or of a far smaller scale than predicted. The credibility of the climate science community has been shredded by their constant alarmism.
 
I don't care about the stupid ice or north poles or whatever. I can see with my darn eyes how the weather changed in the last 40 years. Its almost unreal. What used to be winter is not. What used to be summer, is insanely hot and delayed. The storms, non-stop floods, hotter and hotter years and that's not even half of it.

Only blind people need scientists (or the government LOL) to tell them what's real or not. I got eyes. So yea, I dunno who even denies it... and how can they? Even if they live under a rock, that rock will be non stop flooded or super heated lol. They will surely feel it! Human made or not, this planet is not the same that it was even 20 years ago. That should be a fact by now.. then again so many people think this planet is flat... sooo yeah. Anyways, back to reading computer news. God knows thats the only thing I can while outside is 45C.. in god damn Europe. Desert much?

P.s. For u Americans, 45C is like 130F? I don't even know lol. Just imagine Phoenix, Arizona and maybe add +1-2 ;p
 
I do understand that media companies task their writers with quotas and the Editor In Chief does have the final say what gets released.
 
@p51d007
It is not accurate that NOAA states it was warmer 100,000 years ago. According to NOAA and other scientific organizations, the Earth was in an ice age 100,000 years ago, and the average global temperature was significantly colder than it is today.

@SRB
Conclusion: The user's claim about a specific interaction with an LLM and global temperature data is not supported by the known capabilities of AI models or the scientific data on global temperatures. The scenario described—an AI "lying" four times and then "admitting" a five-year cooling trend after checking NOAA data—is highly improbable. The account reads more like a fictional narrative or a gross misinterpretation of a past interaction rather than a factual event.
 
When talking about this subject, I ask people, "If you weren't constantly hearing about climate change, how would you know it was happening?"

Some say they've seen no difference in their lives, others will say they have. Maybe some want to and others don't, depending on their viewpoint. I don't think I'd know about it without all the news. I know things I was told when I was a kid in the 70's didn't happen. My house should be underwater.

The language used doesn't help. A couple of years ago the guy from the UN used the words "the era of global boiling has arrived.". Really? Some people were already sceptical, you think this is going to help?

But time will tell. Either climate change will change our lives for the worse, or the restrictions, regulations and taxes put in place to prevent it will*.

*The rules of course won't be for everyone. Some people will be deemed too important to have to live by them.
 
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