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China's Twitter users now face detention and interrogations for their posts

By midian182 · 16 replies
Jan 11, 2019
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  1. Twitter is one of many Western websites, including Google, YouTube, and Facebook, that are blocked by China’s so-called Great Firewall, but many residents use VPNs to circumvent the ban.

    According to a new report by the New York Times, authorities are cracking down on Twitter users who post messages critical of the country’s government.

    The publication spoke to nine Twitter users questioned by police and reviewed a recording of a four-hour long interrogation. It reveals that one user, activist Huang Chengcheng, was chained to a chair and questioned for eight hours. Once his ordeal was over, he had to sign a promise to stay off Twitter.

    The Times writes that officers would often print out people’s tweets and advise them to delete specific messages or their entire accounts.

    Another case involves Pan Xidian, who posted a comic by a dissident cartoonist on Twitter. He was taken in by police for 20 hours of questioning and forced to delete several posts. But shortly after being released, police dragged him back into custody where he spent two weeks in a cell with ten other people watching propaganda videos.

    Only 0.4 percent of China’s internet users are on Twitter, but that still works out at roughly 3.2 million people. The platform is one of the few places where citizens engage in political debate and discussions.

    "If we give up Twitter, we are losing one of our last places to speak," said human rights activist Wang Aizhong, who claims 3000 of his tweets were deleted by state-sponsored hackers.

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  2. p51d007

    p51d007 TS Evangelist Posts: 1,829   +1,112

    But...but...but...socialism is the wave of the future.
    Socialism leads to/turns into communism/dictatorship.
    Works every time it has been tried. Take away the right of the
    people to be/live free, have the right to defend themselves and
    this is what happens.
     
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  3. Uncle Al

    Uncle Al TS Evangelist Posts: 4,875   +3,313

    China just can't help themselves ...... they can put a robot on the moon but they can't quell the breath of freedom. If only the Russian people were not so easily brainwashed ........
     
  4. Yup so what should we do?
    I know, let's ship all our manufacturing over there giving away tons of IP (intellectual property) and the jobs we used to have in North America. Plus we get to enjoy all the counterfeit goods as well. Makes sense to me.
     
  5. koblongata

    koblongata TS Booster Posts: 148   +36

    China never understands this, people will never go against their "country".
     
  6. kombu

    kombu TS Addict Posts: 57   +114

    How easily are Russian people brainwashed? Just to give me an idea, would you figure more or less than, say, Mexicans?
     
    Digitalzone likes this.
  7. QuantumPhysics

    QuantumPhysics TS Guru Posts: 609   +397

    Face detection doesn't work well for certain ethnic groups.

    My girlfriend for example is Chinese and her friends can unlock her phone.
     
  8. toooooot

    toooooot TS Evangelist Posts: 665   +318

    :D
     
  9. MasterMace

    MasterMace TS Booster Posts: 57   +31

    I know left right politics is difficult to understand, so here goes:

    Left - More people in government
    Right - less people in government

    And so for the furthest extremes
    Left---------------------------------------------Right
    [All]----------------------------------------------[None]

    On the scaling [Left -> Right]
    [All of the people] -Communism - Pure Democracy - Socialism - Republic - Oligarchy - Fascism - Monarchy - Dictatorship - Anarchy [no people]

    From there when discussing something more complex than a simple Left-Right scale of governance, you may find there are other diagrams showing

    Governmental control
    Less Control - More Control
    (Anarchy) - (Dictatorship) (frequently cited in the past when referring to anarchists as "left wing"

    Rights
    [Left - Right]
    Social Rights -------- Natural Rights

    Religious Influence
    [Left - Right]
    Less --------- More

    but regardless of how you look at it, you'll find you're an ***** when you say Socialism leads to/turns into a dictatorship/communism everytime. They are opposites.

    For example, March 23, 1919, Italy had several right-wing groups organize into a single party. They wanted to bring Italy back to its previous prestige, their leader outlawed unions from striking, placed their people into positions of power. The leader of this party was previously in the Socialist Party, and was trying to push them this way, to the nationalistic side, away from assisting working class individuals, away from equality.

    The Socialists kicked him out. The party he went to form was the Fascist Party, the guy is Mussolini. You can also look into the history of how the Bolsheviks separated from the Marxist Communists in 1912 to form their own party, as the Bolsheviks did not believe in equality, believed membership in the party should be limited to a small core group, believed you needed 1 leader to rule with strict control over the working class, and then how the Bolsheviks kicked out the Socialists in 1918, and how the Socialists went to a different country (Georgia) in 1919 and won the election there, and how the Bolsheviks invaded in 1921. You can check full well to see how they are non-compatible systems of governance, and how they are opposites.

    Just because a party names themselves "democratic" or "socialist" or "republic" or "people's" or "communist" doesn't make them so, it's just what they want to be called.
     
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  10. petert

    petert TS Evangelist Posts: 344   +150

    yes - that is how capitalism works. The US companies found better and cheaper workforce elsewhere and left US. DEAL WITH IT!
     
  11. petert

    petert TS Evangelist Posts: 344   +150

    Or American - they are using socialism as an insult ...
    of course they don't have a clue, they slap that label over everything remotely bad
     
  12. petert

    petert TS Evangelist Posts: 344   +150

    Shall I be constructive and mention that nowadays Trump, the beloved and highly aclaimed US president, is the joke butt in China?

    Hint: has to do with the wall and the fact that the Chinese built one first ...
     
  13. Misagt

    Misagt TS Maniac Posts: 258   +184

    If we aren't careful our future in the west is very bleak.
     
  14. treetops

    treetops TS Evangelist Posts: 2,358   +403

    It's funny they think the same crud about us... look at those American sheep, they allow legal bribes to their politicians through lobbying and campaign contributions. I say both sides are right and in conclusion I'm going to go live in the woods.
     
  15. Danny101

    Danny101 TS Guru Posts: 640   +240

    Sounds like something American liberals would be interested in implementing. Well because they are so cozy with China.
     
  16. is there a line to be drawn? How about we use prisoners, we have a lot of them, we can pay them nothing. Is that okay?
     
  17. petert

    petert TS Evangelist Posts: 344   +150

    Funny you should mention that. If you are an US citizen, most likely you know someone who went to prison, they are very good at sending people to jail (reminds me of something else, but I digress). The US prison system is private to some extent - let's just say that prisoner rights there are not making it to top 10 company priorities. There is a strong private prison industry which is greas ... lobbying politicians in order to maximize their profit - like for instance opposing legislation to reduce sentencing and so on. Chances are they won't lobby for a higher pay for prisoners ... which kinda answer your question that it is ok not to pay the prisoners as long as the shareholders get paid and/or get paid more. And, in good capitalist fashion, you are probably gonna see private US prisons for US inmates opened in China in the next decade - would push the profit up a bit, while removing issues like human rights. Where do you draw the line? There is no line - just a bar which in US gets lowered more and more.
     

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