Dell will triple its AMD Epyc server lineup with 7nm offerings

mongeese

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Ryzen 3000 might be cool, but it’s got nothing on the next generation of Epyc processors. Going all the way up to 64 cores and 128 threads, the Rome architecture coupled with TSMC’s 7nm node and PCIe 4.0 means that future Epyc processors will have far more cores than Intel processors at the same price, and each of those cores will produce less heat, use less power and could possibly run faster. We’ve also heard rumors that the 32-core variant will have a 13% IPC (instruction per clock) increase in scientific tasks over last generation.

Having played around with Rome a little, Dell is pretty interested. "Out of, let's say, 50 or so platforms that we have today three of them are AMD - we'll probably triple that by the end of this year,” Dell’s manager for storage and compute Dominique Vanhamme told IT Pro.

This is a pretty big change from Dell’s stance last year, when Chief Technology Officer John Roese said: “AMD is doing some interesting things, and by adding them to the portfolio we pick up a few extra areas, but let's be very clear: there is a huge, dominant player in compute semiconductors, and then there is a challenger which is doing some very good innovative work called AMD, but the gap between them is quite large in terms of market share and use-cases.

“Our portfolio is not going to change in any meaningful way. Don't expect it to be a duopoly any time soon.”

I’m sure it was an awkward meeting when Roese decided to completely reverse his decision, but the change is a good sign for AMD.

According to Vanhamme, they’ve received much more demand for Rome than they were expecting. "So in the original plan, we were thinking that it will be a few first verticals that will pick up, like service providers," he said. "We thought that maybe there are some hosters that may want to have that extra capacity when they provide [Infrastructure as a Service] services. We clearly see [High-Performance Compute], but we also see general customers for sure."

Regardless, AMD has a long road ahead in the server space. As each company must validate their software on new processors and architecture before integrating it, companies must believe that those very large costs will be made back in hardware cost savings and that Intel doesn’t offer anything comparable.

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trparky

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> As each company must validate their software on new processors
This is the part that I don't get. If we were talking about a completely different instruction set, I could understand this part but we're not. AMD is x86_64, Intel is x86_64; they're both running the same basic instruction set. Theoretically speaking a program that runs on an Intel chip will run like nothing changed on an AMD chip. We're not talking x86_64 vs ARM here.
 

xxLCxx

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... This is the part that I don't get. ...
They behave differently, though. What might be an optimization to facilitate memory access for Intel processors can turn out to be a bottleneck for AMD CPUs. We’ve already seen this in various games that were optimized for Intel CPUs using ominous caching instructions. Once that code had been straightened out (or put into two versions), Ryzen CPUs did a lot more frames per second... It’s very similar when it comes to number crunching.