Display Tech Compared: TN vs. VA vs. IPS

VitalyT

Russ-Puss
I'm currently in some remote Siberian city on holidays, and so far I have seen a lot more OLED and QLED TV panels here than bears, and many of those can make a great monitor. So why OLED and QLED are not included in the article?
 
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144hzGamer

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TN has the worst image quality but still delivers what I consider the most important thing: motion clarity. I dont mind having bad colours if when on fast moving objects there is no trail.

IPS great for photoshop, I hate ips glow tho and for gaming they cause me eye strain due to blur.

VA good for movies, great contrast.
 

BSim500

TS Evangelist
"VA panels also tend to be less consistent with their transitions; some individual transitions can be fast, while others very slow"
Would probably be more useful to have a demonstration of that. I've never owned an AMVA+ panel but from what I've seen they can come with some awful side-effects like this and this. Not to mention chronic Black Crush that defeats the whole advantage of a higher contrast display in the first place.

If anyone owns one, do the new AMVA+ panels still suffer from this stuff?
 

amstech

IT Overlord
I did a similar article for college.
My Omen is a TN panel with Gsync and its faster then lighting.
I loved my former H-IPS (Dell U3011) but that 3G coating eventually got to me, I should have took it off the first day. Thank you wet papertowels and my tablet maintenance kit.
Anyways, great read here.
 

illusio12

TS Rookie
@Tim Schiesser :) Really good article dude, thanks:)

Waiting on OLED like VitalyT , but like Steveb8189, I've also read the reviews and associated tech problems.

Always been out of my price range ( £3-400 Max I'll spend on TV...., ~£250 on PC Monitor ); when below £500 I'll buy in.
 
"VA panels also tend to be less consistent with their transitions; some individual transitions can be fast, while others very slow"
Would probably be more useful to have a demonstration of that. I've never owned an AMVA+ panel but from what I've seen they can come with some awful side-effects like this and this. Not to mention chronic Black Crush that defeats the whole advantage of a higher contrast display in the first place.

If anyone owns one, do the new AMVA+ panels still suffer from this stuff?
You're the first person I've seen mention VA black crush, which I experienced with an Insignia 32" 1080p TV I used as a monitor for a few years. I kinda got used to it but it was nice to replace that with an IPS 1440p ultrawide... uuuuntil I saw the backlight glow. I still have it as the color linearity is marginally better than the nice blacks and contrast, but damn I want both.

And of course now I really want a 144Hz gaming monitor. Picky bastard.
 
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R00sT3R

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VA panel for gaming???

Just about everyone I see in forums discussing getting a VA panel for gaming, regrets it because of 'smearing' issues with fast movements.
 

BSim500

TS Evangelist
You're the first person I've seen mention VA black crush, which I experienced with an Insignia 32" 1080p TV I used as a monitor for a few years.
VA panel for gaming??? Just about everyone I see in forums discussing getting a VA panel for gaming, regrets it because of 'smearing' issues with fast movements.
Thanks for the feedback guys. If there's one thing official benchmarks don't show it's the worst like grey to almost black transitions can be up to 50ms for VA for which extreme levels of Response Time Compensation (BenQ's AMA, etc) is needed which in turn then causes inverse "dark trail" ghosting effects like in those vids I quoted. Unlike immediately obvious TN's view angles or IPS glow which show up on a static screen, it seems you really have to go digging for this stuff when review sites stick to just the "technicals" but don't actually show examples of problem games that lie within VA's slowest response time "troughs". I think I'll just stick to IPS / TN.
 

Athlonite

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VA panel for gaming???

Just about everyone I see in forums discussing getting a VA panel for gaming, regrets it because of 'smearing' issues with fast movements.
I have a ViewSonic VX2457-MHD 75Hz freesync monitor and I don't seem to suffer from what you're describing at all whether driving games or FPS games plus it's 1ms (g to g) response times are great

sometimes all it comes down to is the quality of the monitor build some are better than others so please don't tar and feather them all because you've had one bad experience
 

R00sT3R

TS Guru
so please don't tar and feather them all because you've had one bad experience
Err..I've never had a VA panel monitor, I was simply saying what I've read on various tech forums from people who couldn't live with the ghosting/smearing issue which seems to be a characteristic of the technology, just as light bleed is endemic to IPS.
 

Stiqy

TS Enthusiast
VA panel for gaming???

Just about everyone I see in forums discussing getting a VA panel for gaming, regrets it because of 'smearing' issues with fast movements.
Yeah I don't get that conclusion at all. VA is super slow response times, and suffers from smearing and black crush.
The best use of VA would be photo or video editing (or watching) where you need the deep blacks and colour accuracy.
 

Cooe14

TS Booster
Really happy to see the Pixio PX277h in your recommendation list at the end. That monitor's an unbelievable steal considering the 27" bezeless panel's 1440p, 144Hz, IPS (AVHA), "10-bit" color (8-bit+FRC), + HDR10 feature-set (it's the same bezeless AUO "1440p, 144/165Hz, IPS" panel all the big brands use [ala Asus & Acer]), along with the display controller's 30-144Hz FreeSync support (aka ≈15-144Hz in practice bc LFC; so equal range to G-SYNC, which does frame-doubling under 30Hz/fps too).

Unless you need G-SYNC, there's very little reason to buy a name brand monitor these days as the LCD panels & display controllers are all the exact same off-the-shelf parts, simply placed in different plastic housings. So just as long as you can find an option with good build quality (aka not using reject panels, which can be verified by reading reviews) & warranty (like the above), you can save yourself nearly a fortune.
 

DaveyDee

TS Rookie
The best use of VA would be photo or video editing (or watching) where you need the deep blacks and colour accuracy.
IPS offers superior colour accuracy than VA, so would always be the preference for this type of work. Granted, VA can often LOOK better, so for viewing VA might very well be the preference given those deeper blacks and higher contrast ratio, but VA is not as accurate so wouldn't be the best choice for colour critical work... not that it would necessarily matter for most people, unless their work demanded it. Still, there's a very good reason why every colour critical monitor on the market uses IPS technology.
 

gamerk2

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Two words

Burn
In
Which is *not* a problem as long as you aren't an *****. I own a LG B6 TV which I use as a PC monitor, and have had no problems with it, even with games with massive static elements. [Case in point: I'm playing the original Command and Conquer, and no problems despite the mono-color backgrounds and build menus.] As long as you aren't a complete ***** with it, permanent burn in risk is minimal.

QLED should also be relatively immune from burn in as far as I understand it.