Elon Musk says he is "kind of pro-China," claims country is on "team humanity" when it...

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A hot potato: It's not often that we hear public figures praising China, but then Elon Musk famously doesn't care what people think of him. The world's richest person just declared himself "kind of pro-China," and said Beijing was interested in working on global artificial intelligence regulations as it is a member of "team humanity."

Speaking in a Twitter Space event with two US congressmen, Democrat Ro Khanna and Republican Mike Gallagher, Musk said, "China is definitely interested in working within a cooperative international framework for AI regulation," information apparently gleaned from conversations he had when visiting China a few weeks ago.

Musk has long been an outspoken proponent of tighter global regulations for AI, which he once called humanity's biggest existential threat. "I've made this point in meetings with world leaders, including in China, and we're actually in strong agreement that there should be AI oversight and regulation."

The billionaire also warned government officials in the Asian nation that a superintelligent artificial intelligence could take over the country. "I think that resonated because no government wants to find itself unseated by a digital superintelligence, so I think they are taking action on regulation and are concerned about this risk."

ChatGPT creator OpenAI is aware of the potential dangers of superintelligence, including the extinction of the human race, and last week announced it was putting together a team to mitigate these risks.

Musk did admit he has "some vested interests in China," including the Shanghai Tesla factory that has produced over 3 million vehicles.

Gallagher wasn't as willing to sing China's praises. The US Representative said the Chinese Communist Party was on "team genocidal communism," and would more likely use AI to suppress free speech and religion, citing threats to Taiwan and China's Uighur population.

Gallagher, who leads the House Select Committee on strategic competition between the United States and the Chinese Communist Party, added, "I just remain sceptical that they would slow down [AI] development, and I'm fairly certain in the near term, Xi Jinping will use this as an instrument for total tech totalitarian control."

Musk also expressed his thoughts on Taiwan. He stated that if the complex issue of resolving China's claim over Taiwan as its own territory can be addressed, he hopes this could pave the way for improved relations between the US and China.

Back in October, Musk said that Taiwan and China should "figure out a special administrative zone for Taiwan that is reasonably palatable." He added that Taiwan could have "an arrangement that's more lenient than Hong Kong." The plan was welcomed by China, but everyone else liked it about as much as his Ukraine/Russia peace proposal.

The Cyberspace Administration of China (CAC), the country's internet watchdog, in April published the Administrative Measures for Generative Artificial Intelligence Services, a document containing the draft rules for what content AIs can generate.

In addition to ensuring their products uphold Chinese socialist values, businesses that provide generative AI services must prevent them from outputting discriminatory content, false information, and content that harms personal privacy or intellectual property. Violence, obscene and pornographic information, promotion of terrorism, extremism, and ethnic hatred is also prohibited.

Musk has just launched his artificial intelligence company, xAI, with a claim that it is seeking the "true nature of the universe."

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Yea keep messing with Ai until its to late to stop it.
These *****s never seen a Terminator movie?????
 
I mean, I'm not surprised he would say that publicly. It would torpedo Tesla if he were to come off as anti-China at this point lol

But otherwise, he's definitely BSing suggesting that the CCP cares about humanity, especially with respect to AI...
 
I mean, I'm not surprised he would say that publicly. It would torpedo Tesla if he were to come off as anti-China at this point lol

But otherwise, he's definitely BSing suggesting that the CCP cares about humanity, especially with respect to AI...
IMO, he's demonstrating the true depth of his ignorance.
 
Elon Musk suffers from diarrhea of the mouth. Unfortunately there's no known cure at this time.
There is one cure, constrictive bandaging of the mouth and nose areas of the face, but the bandaging needs to be airtight for maximum effectiveness.

Also, should a guy that holds these sentiments really be in charge of a satellite launch company with contracts to launch highly classified US military and intelligence satellites?
 
Elon Musk has become so deranged over the last few years, believed his own press and seems to think he is some kind of modern day messiah/visionary. Even his business sense (the one thing he was once really good at) has now escaped him. Looking at Twitter and Tesla, he's become a complete liability.
 
Even his business sense (the one thing he was once really good at) has now escaped him.
He never had a good business sense either. I mean he was interested in making money, and more money - and given that he came from a rich family, that was given to him, because with a lot of money it's always easy to make more. Especially in the dotcom era, where he did.

But he never actually launched a successful company, merely joined some afterwards - like Tesla, which he was not an actual founder of either. And he made a lot of investments that were simply failures. A rich daddy and luckplayed a far larger, almost exclusive role in generating the billions now Musk owns, than any kind of business sense he never actually had.
 
He never had a good business sense either. I mean he was interested in making money, and more money - and given that he came from a rich family, that was given to him, because with a lot of money it's always easy to make more. Especially in the dotcom era, where he did.

But he never actually launched a successful company, merely joined some afterwards - like Tesla, which he was not an actual founder of either. And he made a lot of investments that were simply failures. A rich daddy and luckplayed a far larger, almost exclusive role in generating the billions now Musk owns, than any kind of business sense he never actually had.
Sorry but you're wrong. Just having a lot of money doesn't guarantee that you can keep it or make more. Want proof, look up what happens to lottery winners. It is said that lottery winners are more likely than the average American to declare bankruptcy within 3-5 years. Many lottery winners are broke within 5 years.

As for getting money from his family, his first venture was funded with loans from family and angel investors. Everything else came from that first success. Most wealthy people will tell you that they have failed multiple times before becoming a big, financial success. You can say it's "luck" but it's far more than that. Musk was smart enough to parlay $22M into Billions. It takes a lot more than luck to do that.
 
Nah. We never treated our own how they do Uyghurs.
There is an endless pit between us. There are values we
could never share.
Trade is maximum we can do together.
That and intellectual theft.
 
The guy is straight out of an episode of Silicon Valley. If they ever make a parody biography of him, only he could play the part.

Sorry, I meant prat.
 
Sorry but you're wrong. Just having a lot of money doesn't guarantee that you can keep it or make more. Want proof, look up what happens to lottery winners. It is said that lottery winners are more likely than the average American to declare bankruptcy within 3-5 years. Many lottery winners are broke within 5 years.

As for getting money from his family, his first venture was funded with loans from family and angel investors. Everything else came from that first success. Most wealthy people will tell you that they have failed multiple times before becoming a big, financial success. You can say it's "luck" but it's far more than that. Musk was smart enough to parlay $22M into Billions. It takes a lot more than luck to do that.
Elon has parleyed his money into a ton of BS. Perhaps you should have a look at this post for only a smidgen of evidence that he did so https://www.techspot.com/community/...him-to-buy-twitter.281280/page-2#post-2034921
 
Sorry but you're wrong. Just having a lot of money doesn't guarantee that you can keep it or make more.
Good job constructing your own straw man, and then debunking it. But why did you reply to my post, when you didn't argue with what I _actually_ said?
 
Good job constructing your own straw man, and then debunking it. But why did you reply to my post, when you didn't argue with what I _actually_ said?
It's not a strawman argument, it's pretty well documented that winning the lottery does not ensure that you will end up wealthy. Your point was Musk made it because his family had money. This does not ensure success and I pointed that out to you, effectively, disproving your argument.

Most businesses get money from somewhere, from investors, friends, banks and so on. But that doesn't ensure success and I think you know that. How many startups with millions in investment capital go out of business? Having money is one thing, keeping it and growing it is not a guarantee.
 
If that's your best "argument" against what he said, then you simply have no argument. Then again, do fan bois have ever?
Since I am not privy to the details of Musk's relationship with his lawyers, I cannot say whether this makes any sense or not. Clearly, some other lawyer thought there was enough of a case to take it on. And name calling? Really? Is that the best you have?
 
And name calling? Really? Is that the best you have?
Like when you say someone is "in the 'I hate Musk' camp"? And that when that person didn't even present his personal preference or judgement, but directly pointed you (linked) to a piece of factual evidence? Really? Pot calling the kettle black?
 
It's clear you're in the "I hate Musk" camp. I see Musk suing lawyers as a good thing.
It's clear you're in the "Musk is God Because he says so and if anyone says anything else that is true, I'll deny it." camp. Perhaps you should wake up to reality. Here's something that might help. https://thehill.com/policy/technolo...ad-revenue-struggling-with-a-heavy-debt-load/

BTW - as I see it, anyone suing lawyers for their BS is a good thing. In this case, it was Musk, himself, that was responsible, IMO, and we'll see how this turns out.
 
It's clear you're in the "Musk is God Because he says so and if anyone says anything else that is true, I'll deny it." camp. Perhaps you should wake up to reality. Here's something that might help. https://thehill.com/policy/technolo...ad-revenue-struggling-with-a-heavy-debt-load/

BTW - as I see it, anyone suing lawyers for their BS is a good thing. In this case, it was Musk, himself, that was responsible, IMO, and we'll see how this turns out.
I'm more of a neutral on Musk. I think he has done some good things and I applaud his desire to explore space, bring alternative fuel vehicles to fruition and find innovative ways to improve mass transit (hyperloop/boring etc). Twitter was a ****-show of censorship and government collusion to supress free speech. Whether Musk can reverse that or fix it remains to be seen.

But hating the man because he's wealthy, well, I can't see the justification for that.
 
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