Game Dev Tycoon tries to teach pirates a lesson with a healthy dose of irony

By Shawn Knight · 30 replies
Apr 29, 2013
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  1. We’ve chronicled several different approaches that game developers are taking to curb piracy such as releasing free-to-play titles with in-game purchases or requiring a game have an always-on connection but Greenheart Games’ recent approach with Game Dev Tycoon is by...

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  2. Littleczr

    Littleczr TS Addict Posts: 439   +86

    I will openly admit I used to pirate games. This was a time when I worked part time, minimum wage. I now have no need to pirate, if I really like the game I will buy it I.e Battlefield 3 etc.. What angers me is when I buy a game for 60 dollars and it turns out to be a flop!

    I wish there was some way to try out games like the 90's and mid 2000's. For example Call of Duty black ops to me was money thrown down the drain. I crack a smile when ever I hear a COD game was pirated.
    jetkami, Burty117, SalaSSin and 2 others like this.
  3. psycros

    psycros TS Evangelist Posts: 1,872   +1,291

    Exactly. These scumbag companies have stopped releasing demos because *nobody* would pay for their shoddy products if the public had advance warning. Yet another reason I have no problem with piracy - its the new "demo scene" as far as I'm concerned and the most honest source of info on new games. I never buy games until they've been out for at least a month, and only once I've had RL or online friends tell me if their worth the money. Still, you have to be careful because some people will try to cover their embarrassment from paying for crap by glossing over the shortcomings. Pirates have nothing invested so they don't feel the need to apologize for a bad purchase. They'll give you the ugly truth about a game every time. There *are* a few respectable independent reviewers on the net who don't pull many punches, but with my awful internet I can't stream Youtube so I end up relying on the word of pirates fairly often. The real irony is that pirated games usually have less bugs than the legal versions so even if you hear the pirate version is good the legit one may still have major issues. Such is the upside-down world in which we live.
  4. Tekkaraiden

    Tekkaraiden TS Evangelist Posts: 997   +93

    That's pretty funny.
  5. Razster

    Razster TS Rookie

    Exact same position as you, to the T.

    And just recently I purchased a game, some may know it as SimCity, well I tell you what! I'm still unable to play due to some odd bugs and random stuff... I Pre-ordered for the first time in ages. Now I'm stuck with a $65 game that I cannot enjoy. Yes they tried to give me a game, but that is not the game(s) I wanted.

    So for now I'm trying the Kickstarter with 4 amazing games backed, which broke records. I Believe in these more than the large over hyping corporate machines.
  6. Littleczr

    Littleczr TS Addict Posts: 439   +86

    Games I pirated then bought.

    -Crysis(then bought warhead and Crysis 2. Crysis 3 sucked as)

    -Knights of the old Republic (then bought Koror 2)

    -Civilization back in 96. Have bought all of them since.

    -Doom3 (demoed)

    -NBA 2k11, NBA 2k12

    -FEAR( then bought fear2)
  7. St1ckM4n

    St1ckM4n TS Evangelist Posts: 2,922   +630

    Hahaha that quote is gold. shawn , maybe insert a link in the article about the hilarious Serious Sam 'bug'? :D Armies of invincible giant crabs with guns on pirated version HA!
  8. yRaz

    yRaz Nigerian Prince Posts: 2,319   +1,408

    I still pirate games but I buy them if I enjoy them. If I don't like them I don't play then and therefore don't pay for them. I agree, they need to have demos again. The lack of demos has definitely increased piracy simply for the reason I just stated. I don't like piracy, but with all the shotty games coming out and lack of a demo we don't really have another choice. If people make good games more people will be willing to pay for them. They refuse to admit the root of the problem. In their attempt to make more money they increase piracy. Don't get me wrong, there are many games I buy outright because I know I'll enjoy them. There are others where I question the content and usually end up not playing then at all after I pirate them

    please, developers, start making good games and people will support you. If you make bad games and treat paying customers like criminals(since DRM has 100% of the time been cracked) you will only increase piracy. Things like day one dlc and stand alone games that are closer to an expansion are mostly the root of the problem. A lot of people who pirate games would not play them at all if they couldn't get it for free.
  9. m4a4

    m4a4 TS Evangelist Posts: 955   +515

    I thought it was just one that followed you around like an overly attached girlfriend? :p
  10. Ironically they stole the entire concept of the game from Game Dev Story by Kairosoft...
  11. TheBigFatClown

    TheBigFatClown TS Guru Posts: 684   +253

    Just because somebody doesn't release a demo doesn't mean it's okay to pirate it. And Steam has free weekend events all the time. I think they even offered this on Call of Duty: Black Ops recently. I think the reason piracy exists is not because of a lack of demos. I think it's simply because developers/publishers are greedy greedy people who think $60 for a video game is a fair price. It's not. I don't care what you had to invest to develop it. Furthermore, if you sold it at the right price from the get go, your sales would go up exponentially and you wouldn't end up in bankruptcy status. I WANT to pay for anything I use. The problem is I can't justify some of the prices. $60 for a single video game is ridiculous. Especially considering the fact that the developers have the luxury of an infinite supply of their product once the game is finished. Very low overhead. Piracy exists because of ridiculous prices on software, not because of a lack of demos.
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  12. Jad Chaar

    Jad Chaar Elite Techno Geek Posts: 6,515   +974

    Game devs have been trying to prevent pirating by implementing multiplayers, which cant be used if pirated. Far Cry 3 is a great game, but it is highly pirated because of the bad multiplayer and/or lack of multiplayer, not sure what it has.
  13. yRaz

    yRaz Nigerian Prince Posts: 2,319   +1,408

    TheBigFatClown, there was more to what I said than just demos, I suggest you read my post again. They also don't have free weekends of new releases. Free weekends help, but that doesn't solve the problem. Its too little too late.
  14. Littleczr

    Littleczr TS Addict Posts: 439   +86

    Great example is Bio Shock Infinet. I have watched you tube videos, read the reviews seen the game play. But oh no its 60 dollars to buy. Where is the demo? Hhhmm Oh my there is a pirate torrent. Hhhmmm. Anyway the game looks good and well made. Ill probably wait until there is a price drop. I nice small demo would be nice.

    And I hate how we have to be members of steam, EA Ubisoft ect. to play a game Freaking sucks.

    No wonder Free to play games do well, the gamers with no money get a shot. And if your willing to pay you buy additional items.
  15. veLa

    veLa TS Evangelist Posts: 782   +235

    Even with rampant piracy these companies bring in huge profits so I share no pity for them.
  16. spectrenad

    spectrenad TS Enthusiast Posts: 98   +18

    I pirated the 1st witcher, liked it, and bought the 2nd one. And I will gladly buy the 3rd one when it will come out... And I'll probably buy the 1st one someday too.

    Piracy can actually help promote a product. That is, when the product is good, ofc. I discovered many great games that way.
  17. scorpian007

    scorpian007 TS Enthusiast Posts: 52   +18

    Used to pirate games as a kid when I had no income and my parents didn't buy games often but for the past 10 years I've bought everything. I think I'd have close to 450 games now!
  18. I used to pirate games when I was young and couldn't afford the games. Now that I'm working I do purchase the game but wait till there's a price drop or special offers going on steam.
    Since I been dissapointed so many times with the quality and contents of the games, also what's with the DLC.......... Seems like the Dev's haven't finish the game or holding on to extra contents to milk more money from gamers THAT S**KS
  19. AlienOverlord

    AlienOverlord TS Rookie Posts: 27

    I don't understand people who say $60 for a game is too much. I think I used to pay more for sega master system games 25 years ago. The $60 price tag has been around for a while despite inflation of all other products. It used to be you could go to the movies for $5 and you'd reason that's only 2 hours of entertainment so a game that gave you over 25 hours of play was well worth it. Now movies are close to $15. Maybe this is part of the reason I've always preferred RPGs since you can get 100 hours out of many of them and why it's hard for me to pick up games like Tomb Raider when it's only supposed to have 10 hours of game play.
    I really don't think it is the price that causes people to pirate. If games came out at $30 they'd need to sell more than double to make the same profit (some costs will remain constant like packaging, shipping etc) and I don't think it would have much effect on pirating. People pirate because it's convenient. You don't have to go to the store or give up personal info online to use steam. This particular game is only $8 yet over 90% of the people playing it have a pirated version. Who can't afford $8? How did they buy a computer?
  20. havok585

    havok585 TS Booster Posts: 155   +27

    Actually it's both reasons ! Think about it, it's not only your opinion here that counts.
  21. MilwaukeeMike

    MilwaukeeMike TS Evangelist Posts: 2,890   +1,224

    Yes, and the 3rd reason. People prefer to get something for free rather than to pay for it.
  22. misor

    misor TS Evangelist Posts: 1,285   +242

    I love blizzard's starcraft (and broodwar expansion) and diablo 2 (and lod expansion); waited til 2010 when blizzard sold them at a highly discounted price.

    I also waited for diablo 3 and starcraft 2: wol price drops before I bought them around thanksgiving 2012.

    when metro 2033 had a facebook fan page, I signed up and got the game for free via steam. :)
  23. jetkami

    jetkami TS Booster Posts: 100

    Dont leave out the fact that you will have to research the many errors, crashes and bugs also. E.A. support is worthless.
  24. It's weird...I enjoy the act of pirating games and software more than using or playing them. It was extremely fun to hack my xbox, almost lost it completely! The PS3 wasn't as fun, it was just a software hack, but it was cool to make my own boot logo and sound.

    This is a funny response to piracy, but I wouldn't ever pirate something that wasn't a release from a known group. I wouldn't ever use a torrent either, so it sends the entry level pirates a message, but not us veteran collectors.
  25. spencer

    spencer TS Addict Posts: 202   +22

    Reminds me of a certain dirt showdown twist put in by devs. When the game knows it's pirated it switches to pirate language:choose your difficulty ARRGHHH!!!! ARRRRRGHH OR YYYYYYYAAARRRRRRRRR!!!!!!. Made me laugh, there was a fix though. On the topic of pirating, I think it is justifiable; If you are a kid with barely any money. But if you have a full time job there is no excuse unless the game is very overpriced/treat their consumers like ...well you know. Such as EA, call me crazy but I don't think I should have to buy bf3 premium again and the game again just because I switched to pc. On the other hand if you like the game and it has an acceptable price by all means get it.

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