The Core i9-12900HK is Intel's most recent and fastest CPU for laptops. In this review we'll be pitting it up against a range of other mobile chips, including the beast that is the Apple M1 Pro.
The Core i9-12900HK is Intel's most recent and fastest CPU for laptops. In this review we'll be pitting it up against a range of other mobile chips, including the beast that is the Apple M1 Pro.
Are we 100% sure M1 will not require mitigations and take a performance hit?These benchmarks are meaningless without SpectreV2 mitigations.
According to Phoronix there are losses of up to 35% with patches on Linux withAlderSpectre-Lake
What’s telling is that AMD is barely mentioned despite just releasing the 6000 series... While I’m sure their shills will post eventually, this shows yet another loss for Ryzen in the high performance mobile market.
Because no one expected they would have to… the 5000 series smoked the 11000 series and I suspect that AMD assumed the same would happen with Alder Lake… but they were wrong…The 6000 series isn't an updated architecture (like the 7000 series will be). Nobody expected it to have a big performance improvement.
AMD CPU's smoke Intel ones on laptops. Like article states, this chip is pretty useless when running battery. And if laptop is plugged on most times anyway, Ryzen 5950X is OK and smokes Intel's "mobile" CPU's. When running battery, AMD 6000 series is much better. Overall, Alder Lake mobiles are useless. Battery life is very poor and for desktop replacement, AMD's non-mobile CPU's are faster.Because no one expected they would have to… the 5000 series smoked the 11000 series and I suspect that AMD assumed the same would happen with Alder Lake… but they were wrong…
When plugged in, the Ryzen gets smoked... and even at similar power levels, the Alder Lake tends to win... they only win on power efficiency...AMD CPU's smoke Intel ones on laptops. Like article states, this chip is pretty useless when running battery. And if laptop is plugged on most times anyway, Ryzen 5950X is OK and smokes Intel's "mobile" CPU's. When running battery, AMD 6000 series is much better. Overall, Alder Lake mobiles are useless. Battery life is very poor and for desktop replacement, AMD's non-mobile CPU's are faster.
Ryzen Desktops won't get smoked. Similarily Alder Lake desktops are cheaper And faster than mobile versions.When plugged in, the Ryzen gets smoked... and even at similar power levels, the Alder Lake tends to win... they only win on power efficiency...
If I were just making content then I'd choose the Apple CPU for high performance and low energy use.
But I create content and play games (which noticeably isn't on this comparison).
As long as gaming is a primary concern, Apple can't get my money.
Ryzen Desktops won't get smoked. Similarily Alder Lake desktops are cheaper And faster than mobile versions.
What's the point using mobile CPU if laptop is plugged in all the time? And why both AMD and Intel waste silicon for huge iGPU when most laptops have external GPU? Laptop market is so stupid...
Yeah I agree, this test was extremely biased towards Intel. But there aren’t many tools for comparison. In most use cases you would use these CPUs with different software. In this case they’ve just put the M1 through their windows test suite as best as they can but a lot of it is effectively being emulated on the M1 side.Gotta call some BS here. 1) cinebench is not optimized specifically for Apple silicon using the best toolset available, so it's impressive that M1 does as well as it does, but otherwise meaningless. 2) handbrake likewise, the video encoders/decoders were obviously not employed, yet they give the best results in quality as well as in performance, 3) Blender is not using the correct version for apple silicon, the version truly optimized for Apple silicon using Metal is 3.1. That is like saying a certain CPU performs better on OpenCL which has been deprecated for years on Apple, so maybe it does, but meh.
Let's have a truthful "benchmark" comparison actually comparing times to produce best results. That takes nothing away from alder Lake, they are impressive no doubt,
OK and because you are using it as desktop replacement, it makes no sense to use mobile parts instead desktop ones.The point to a mobile device is that I can take it with me. No, I don't sit around airports working on my laptop and I would rarely game on battery for the simple reason that I like to have a mouse and full sized keyboard when gaming. Therefore, I am likely to be sitting at a desk near a power outlet.
I said huge iGPU. 12900K (desktop model) has iGPU too. It's much slower and takes less die space. Basically 12900K has more CPU cores instead larger GPU. For casual use, 12900K has good enough GPU and for gaming 12900HK GPU is too slow. 12900HK simply doesn't make sense at all. 12900K is cheaper and faster on everything expect when using integrated GPU that won't be used on heavier loads. 12900HK has better battery life but who cares if battery performance is poor or very poor?The reason to include an onboard GPU is that when I don't need that external GPU, I can save battery power running the on-board GPU. Not all laptops have external GPU and for people who don't need them the on-board GPU is plenty sufficient. Plus I don't want that external GPU creating heat when I'm sitting at my desk reading Techspot or other web surfing activities, not to mention the fan noise.
I understand you feel you must defend AMD on every thread... but you might just want to give this up...OK and because you are using it as desktop replacement, it makes no sense to use mobile parts instead desktop ones.
I said huge iGPU. 12900K (desktop model) has iGPU too. It's much slower and takes less die space. Basically 12900K has more CPU cores instead larger GPU. For casual use, 12900K has good enough GPU and for gaming 12900HK GPU is too slow. 12900HK simply doesn't make sense at all. 12900K is cheaper and faster on everything expect when using integrated GPU that won't be used on heavier loads. 12900HK has better battery life but who cares if battery performance is poor or very poor?