Intel Core i9-13900K Review: Hot and Hungry

m3tavision

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You just destroyed your argument. Why then would you ever need to upgrade if the 7700 will always be able to play any game? Why would you need a faster CPU?
Listen, you aren't even using logic at this point, you are just arguing

No one will buy a 7700 in 5 years, that is laughable.
You were the one upset about the $400 now and $400 later, so I suggested mockingly, than you can sell your 7700x later to recoup some of your money... if that was your argument, it's not my argument I don't resell CPUs.

Hence, in 5 years time, a AM5 CPU will have vastly more resale value than AM4 or LGA17 CPUs. (Because the AM5 platform will still be active.).

The point is, you can build a very good gaming machine, right now, with a 5850x3d using RAM you likely already have along with any storage and do it for less cost. You would probably save enough to buy a new mobo in 3-5 years. Or invest in a better GPU.
The point is, if you buy a $399 5800X3d (or 13600k) you have no where to go from that purchase to upgrade... NONE. So why spend you hard earned money on something that is EOL, instead of protecting your Build and your money spent, by future proofing.

It is nice to know that People can drop in one of the best gaming CPU's (right now) into their 3-4 year old AM4 rig, and extend their PC's use another 3-4 years, and possibly get 7-8 total years out of the SAME AM4 gaming computer. (Only changing CPU & GPU along the way.)

AM5 platform is the same way^. (Time to jump on the train if you are building now or soon.)

You're using 30 yr old mobo? We can disagree, but don't resort to lying. You're about to replace whatever mobo you have now with a new one for the Zen4. And in 5 years, if you're still building PCs you'll likely change it again.
I have never had to replace a mobo in any of the systems I have ever built, because I don't waste money like that. The motherboard stays with the case, and when I am done with that PC, they both go to the graveyard together. (The mobo and case rot together...)

If I need a new mobo, then I build a new computer....


Lastly, I am not replacing a mobo, I am building a whole new system. My 5 year old AM4 rig is still working and will be used for when my GF, or friends or Clanmates come over to Game. And in my other room, I still game on my my 4790k system and that is 8 year old....
 
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Is it possible that the high temp on the i9 13900 is due to an issue in Windows 11 that is not reporting the correct temp? I saw this issue in many forums already/
 

loki1944

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I understand history quite well. And here's a little fact for you. I keep my mobos for close to 5 years and sometimes longer. If you buy a 7950 or a Core i9 that CPU will last you until you need to replace your mobo in 5 years.

The thing is thinking that you'll buy a less expensive CPU today and upgrade in 2 or 3 years is blowing money. You'll spend $400 today and $400 when you upgrade when you could have just spent $700 or maybe less, and had the best performance you can get.

A GPU upgrade is more likely and more meaningful and that can be done with existing mobos and new ones. So, CPU upgrades are of little value to me.
Even my 2008 i7 920 still runs games quite well @1440p with a 1080Ti; you'd be surprised how long bloomfield has stayed relevant; for gaming anyway. It holds up admirably vs my i7 7800X; doesn't win, but still puts up a surprising fight. Even with a 3080Ti is still shows gains.
 

waclark

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Even my 2008 i7 920 still runs games quite well @1440p with a 1080Ti; you'd be surprised how long bloomfield has stayed relevant; for gaming anyway. It holds up admirably vs my i7 7800X; doesn't win, but still puts up a surprising fight. Even with a 3080Ti is still shows gains.
Yes, in most cases the CPU is not the bottleneck. In 3-4 years, even if you can upgrade the CPU, the mobo will likely not have the latest PCIe interfaces and you'll be handicapped by bus speeds.