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Intel lowers third quarter revenue outlook due to weak demand

By Shawn Knight · 5 replies
Sep 7, 2012
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  1. It's been a tough year for PC manufacturers as they continue to struggle with declining sales thanks to a number of issues, including but not limited to consumer interest in tablets and other mobile devices. Even the world's largest semiconductor...

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  2. amstech

    amstech IT Overlord Posts: 2,140   +1,303

    Thats because in many cases the chips were rebadged with just bumps in clock speed. I love the new 3D transistors for Ivy Bridge but Sandy Bridge for the most part, isn't any faster then the first gen Socket B 1366LGA CPU's.
    Anyways, I'd love to see a test comparing my i7-930 @ 4.0Ghz 24/7 against a i7 3770k @ 4.0Ghz 24/7. And a 3960X? That things is beast...lets see it up against a 990X at the same clock speeds.
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  3. Littleczr

    Littleczr TS Guru Posts: 441   +91

  4. captainawesome

    captainawesome TS Guru Posts: 428   +44

    They should lower the prices of their i7's a little and people would start buying. The i7 Ivy's are the basically the same prices as the low level Sandy Extremes
  5. dividebyzero

    dividebyzero trainee n00b Posts: 4,840   +1,267

    Nope.It's largely due to the large OEM's forecasting a slow demand quarter (Q3 is historically a slow period in any case) and carrying lower inventories in the face of reduced growth-( So this affects all semiconductor vendors) you aren't going to convince people to upgrade/buy a system every 3-6 months, and Intel has posted record sales/revenue consistantly on the back of SB/IB revenue (ie : Q3 2011...Q4 2011...Q1 2012.). Your argument might stand up to closer scrutiny if Apple and AMD were forecasting gains in Intel's absence- not the case.
    Just look at the aggegated (overclocked) Passmark submissions for an overview. The problem with comparing clock-to-clock is that architectures use differing parameters. A 930 ( or my 950 for that matter) is pretty much at the ragged end of it's 24/7 OC ability at the same clock that a SB/IB starts. My 950 used to be stable at 4.2, with a normal daily OC of 3.8 or 4.0 depending on which profile I booted with. My 2600K happily runs at 4.8....at ~1.37v.
    Having both X58 and Z77 systems- both running overclocked on near identical watercooling systems ( 360 rad+push/pull 108cfm fans+1/2" high flow/low restriction loop+ 2°C coolant/ambient temp delta), I can tell you that the difference is considerable....but that's for all facets of use- which is what I assume your observation is based on considering both the 3960X and 990X ( both salvage parts that didn't pass Xeon QA testing) are primarily benchmark queens and/or multitasking orientated.
  6. amstech

    amstech IT Overlord Posts: 2,140   +1,303

    Well for gaming/multitasking the 3960X has a clear advantage over all other CPU's.
    No debate there.


    My friend has a 2600K @ 4.4 with a Vertex 3, doesn't feel any faster then my 930 @ 4.0Ghz with an Agility 2. This is coming from him and me, gaming, multitasking or multimedia all perform the same. My 930 pushes my 670 to P9419 3DMark11, which is quite good for a Socket B. http://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/3870604
    I am sure isolated benchmarks for other things may show otherwise but for 90% of what a user does, the difference is minuscule at best.
    Also,from what I have seen after 4.0Ghz games you don't get more performance in games but I am sure that is changing.

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