Intel Pentium G4560: Kaby Lake's Real Gift

Just FYI, besides the lower clock, Pentium also has no AVX and the iGPU is much slower (half execution units). So while this might not matter to gamers, it might matter to someone not buying a dGPU.

Also, I don't think intel has to worry about low i3 sales. Brand recognition is still strong with i3s and better. And unsuspecting people (there are A LOT of those) will pick i3 over pentium any day of the week sadly.
 
Just FYI, besides the lower clock, Pentium also has no AVX and the iGPU is much slower (half execution units). So while this might not matter to gamers, it might matter to someone not buying a dGPU.
And well it should. An Nvidia GT-710 w/ 2 GB of RAM is running about $40.00. That only has about 14.4 GB of memory bandwidth. Lemme see, you add $60.00 for the Pentium, and $40.00 for the video card, and you get = i3.

Should I have expressed that as an entire formula?
 
What motherboard was G4560 tested on, I don't seem to be able to find a list of devices used in this test at all (but I do have poor eyesight)?
 
Just to clarify for those wanting one without a dGPU, it's only the cheapest G4560 that has the lower HD610 iGPU. G4600 & G4620 both have the full HD630:-...[ ]...
When you get to the G-4620, the top of its price range is $93.00. That does start to approach the i3-7100 price, . It does give pause to wonder where does the i3 line go from here. Newegg is also listing an unlocked (!) i3!
 
Just FYI, besides the lower clock, Pentium also has no AVX and the iGPU is much slower (half execution units). So while this might not matter to gamers, it might matter to someone not buying a dGPU.

Also, I don't think intel has to worry about low i3 sales. Brand recognition is still strong with i3s and better. And unsuspecting people (there are A LOT of those) will pick i3 over pentium any day of the week sadly.
I've been trying to get a good handle on what AVX actually does. Care to weigh in?
 
My i5-4570 still crushes it, maybe
Thank you for that, it's really helpful to know!!

I'm quite sure he's using the OC'd FX-8320E @4.6 GHz as a reference.
So? I still don't see what it has to do with this. He is comparing a "high" end of the AMD line in a Pentium comparison post for the best bang for your buck AND cheapest processor that intel has come up with in the low end, so my question behind how was to try and understand the logic behind it.
 
Thank you for that, it's really helpful to know!!


So? I still don't see what it has to do with this. He is comparing a "high" end of the AMD line in a Pentium comparison post for the best bang for your buck AND cheapest processor that intel has come up with in the low end, so my question behind how was to try and understand the logic behind it.
Dude, I trolled the rookie with the AMD ninety-something in post #20.

Did I do a bad job? I don't want to feel like I've failed anyone...
 
That's normal. All 2C/4T chips show up as 4 cores in Windows. Same reason 4C/8T i7's show up as having 8 cores. All is fine, it's simply how Hyper-Threading works and how Operating Systems sees the cores.
Thank you for your feedback. I can rest easy now knowing all is well. Cheers
 
Sometimes I just want to understand the logic behind illogical replies... :(
Generally speaking, it has been my experience that the less justification an individual has in real life which adds to his or her legitimate self esteem, the more the ego inflates to compensate.

And that explains a huge chunk of human behaviour.
 
Thank you for that, it's really helpful to know!!


So? I still don't see what it has to do with this. He is comparing a "high" end of the AMD line in a Pentium comparison post for the best bang for your buck AND cheapest processor that intel has come up with in the low end, so my question behind how was to try and understand the logic behind it.
It's AMD's "high" end from 4 years ago, which is a long time in this industry. If it performs similarly to arguably the Intel processor that has the best performance value, is that a bad thing? He's happy with his purchase. Let him be happy. His comment would have been left like nothing happened. Now, it has to become this giant sh!tstorm because someone said they liked their processor.

What I wonder is why it is such an issue that he mentions this. I guess people are not allowed to be happy with AMD. No sensible person is going to pick any FX CPU right now anyway... So... What's the big deal?
 
Last edited:
What I wonder is why it is such an issue that he mentions this. I guess people are not allowed to be happy with AMD.
Let me assure you, it has nothing to do with him owning an AMD or being happy with it, at all. Normally when you go into a forum, the idea is to "comment" and by comment I don't mean a one liner saying how happy you are with it, because there will be other people commenting and adding information into a specific topic, that might be interesting to see. It's like someone requesting help in a forum and then reading the same suggestion over and over again by tens of users just for the sake of posting something which in the end makes it irrelevant and if by any chance you actually have that issue, you will never find an answer because it's buried under a fecesload of useless posts, because "I'm happy with it".

So to answer your question, it has nothing to do with the topic, nor the benchmarks, it's not mentioned anywhere, so... just trying to understand and he never replied, yet you apparently felt the urge to do so, making it something instead of, just like you said, left like nothing happened. Are you by any chance an AMD fanboy?
 
To simply recapitulate what happened;

His comment;
"I made the correct choice back when I selected my FX9590!"

Your comment;
"How did you jump to that conclusion from the benchmarks where that proc is not even mentioned??"

My reply;
"I'm quite sure he's using the OC'd FX-8320E @4.6 GHz as a reference."

I did not answer how he jumped to that conclusion, nor do I care. I replied to your comment where you say that his processor isn't even mentioned, that the OC'd FX-8 processor can be used as a reference. But I can guess that his way of thinking is, if his old CPU performs similarly to the praised G4560, that he made a good choice in the past. I don't know what he thinks, that's my guess.

I am not an AMD 'fanboy', but people love to label me as such because it's convenient for them. I'm more anti-nVidia than pro AMD. As for Intel, I totally understand going for an Intel CPU rather than AMD. Not only processor power, but motherboard features, RAM speed and so on all play a significant role for picking an Intel system over AMD, at least until Ryzen arises. I did make the comment that no one in their right mind would buy an FX CPU right now, so where does the AMD fanboy part come in?
 
To get back on topic, (I know,coming from me right), This I 3 becomes Pentium evolution, puts me in mind of when the E-8xxxx series begat the E-7xxx c2d offerings, the tech from which then was offered as "Pentium dual core". If memory serves, I have an E-7300 c2d @ something like 2.4 Ghz, and an arguably faster E-6300 Pentium Dual Core @ 2.8 Ghz., (No, not the original c2d E-6300). All 3 series of CPUs were 45nm (IIRC).

The fact this article is on to something, but perhaps should have offered more data on the higher models in the series, is borne out by the fact the Kaby Lake G-4620 @3.7 Ghz, is being offered by Newegg for $92.99, a dollar more than Intel's highest suggested consumer price! In addition, they're asking for 6 bucks shipping, which raises the pop to $99.00. (Or almost exactly what I said the cheapo new Pentium would cost, when paired with an Nvidia 710) You can have any Kaby Lake i3 your heart desires, shipped for free....(y) <(I think that deserves a thumbs up, sort of).

Here's the Pentium G4620 page: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117736

And here's the page to the new Kaby Lake unlocked i3, the i3-7350K : https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117772

Now, it costs $180.00 (!), and any decent "computer enthusiast", should be able to start a ripping good forum brawl, as to whether or not it's worth it. (AMD fanbois invited and welcomed to the main event).
 
A good article, tech stuff, that's why I read this website. Great posts even if they battle on. It helps me buy the right product for the right reason.
Now Techspot... Stay away from politics, there are other websites for that.
 
This proves 1 simple fact, that fact is that Intel overcharge because they can, not because they should.
Yet still, Apple and Comcast are far worse. Just trying to put a little bit of positive spin on this..

The benchmarks on the Ryzen Procs are stellar. Let's hope the street versions live up to the hype.. AMD has has a long list of model runs which flaunted more than outstanding "leaked" benchmarks, but fell flat out in the wild..Although, to tell the truth, with my 23" 1080p vertically oriented monitor, I couldn't read sh!t. I had to guess which bar on the graph meant what. For the time being I'm going to give AMD the benefit of the doubt, and assume the longest blue bars were theirs, and that means they won.

Me, you ask? I'm just trying to picture how task manager will look with 16 core traces. You'll probably need 1440p to prevent it from taking up most of the screen..:D
 
Last edited:
Turn off the hyper threading and see how the chips perform. hyper threading is an assembly line, not a real cpu core. reviewers need to stop acting like hyper threading is the bees knees.
 
The Pentium article was impressive. I loaded the $40 Celeron 7th Gen G3930 and got also impressive results.
I think the key is the impressive memory scores .
You should analyze this $40 CPU next.
Of course you need a decent 7th gen mb!
No more will we need to buy older chipset mbs with built in cpus given the success of the new low level 7th generation CPUs.
My $40 CPU surfs the net as good as my $1000 X99 does ! Well not quite!
 
Anyone have any luck finding one of these in the US? As of 2/22, Amazon doesn't list it, Newegg says out of stock and unavailable, B&H Photo taking preorders.
 
Back