Steve based his scoring on
his test figures, ones that showed the 1080 to be approximately 26% faster than the 980 Ti, on average, at 1440p and 4K; his 1080 Ti examination
showed the 1080 Ti to be 22% faster, on average, than the 1080 at 4K.
The 980 Ti launched at $650, whereas the Founders Edition 1080 came out at $699; the vanilla version was $599. Given that it was the FE version tested, I would say that a 26% increase in performance for a 8% increase in price justifies the scoring. The 1080 Ti FE version launched at $700 (and at the same time, Nvidia dropped the standard 1080 down to $500) - different games were used to test the 1080 and 1080 Ti, so a direct comparison isn't possible.
At time review was made, GTX 980 Ti was only $429. So it was in fact 26% increase in performance while price was increased 51%. These figures hardly justify scoring. Also Nvidia's sudden price drop confirm 900-series prices were highly inflated. Even less reason to take 980 Ti launch price into consideration.
When you are buying GTX 980Ti, GTX 1080 or 1080 Ti, you don't really care what GTX 980 Ti launch price WAS years ago.
But if the Ti remained 22% faster than 1080 in the same tests, then the 1080 Ti would have a 53% performance advantage over the 980 Ti for a price increase of 8% again (not that it stayed at that price, of course). So would I rate those cards with those scores? Yes I would - personally I'd have the 1080 Ti slightly higher.
Again, GTX 980 Ti price was around $429. And that makes 1000-series to look much worse.
Because you are saying GTX 1080 and 1080 Ti scores were justified by price/performance, then...
After more than a decade of playing underdog and years of hyping its latest undertaking, we've reached the moment of truth: AMD Ryzen processors are on our...
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Let's face it: Ryzen offers around same performance than Intel's equivalent with less than 50% of price. That's even better price/performance ratio than on GTX 1080 or GTX 1080 Ti, even when compared against 980 Ti at launch price. Still, score is only 90/100.
If we compare against predecessors (FX-8370 or FX-9590) difference is even larger. Based on price/performance alone, Ryzen should have gotten 100/100 without any questions.
This is the problem: While you have some valid points for GTX 1080 or GTX 1080 Ti scoring, they seem only apply to those reviews. When looking other reviews, standards are suddenly different. I have not much problem with 90/100 but 100/100 for just die shrink is something unbelievable.
So reviewers should ensure they judge the merits of a product, by including hypothetical items in the mix, using figures that were plucked out of the air?
Of course they should when it's reasonable. We are talking about serious hardware site here, right? This is because: if reviewer is ultimately happy with just die shrink, it also means reviewer is happy with slow development speed. But then same reviewer blames other company for not making architectural updates. Sounds good? No.
Basically your arguments about scoring have pretty funny consequences:
- Manufacturer should put launch price very high and drop it very quickly, then because next products' predecessor was very highly priced, next product will look much better. Let's compare FX-9590 vs Ryzen 7 1800X. FX-9590 launch price was $920 (dropped quickly) so needless to say Ryzen 7 1800X looks like best CPU ever will be released when we compare it against it's predecessor and consider predecessor launch price. 500$ Ryzen 1800X vs 920$ FX-9590, uuh, 200/100 at least. Btw, there is no SINGLE price comparison 1800X against any FX predecessors on article. Double standards, again.
- Manufacturer should stick with old tech long time, so that they even skip manufacturing processes. That way next product looks much better.
- Nvidia gets 100/100 when doing just die shrink. OK, what Intel got when doing die shrink and much more too? That is, 85/100
https://www.techspot.com/review/523-ivy-bridge-intel-core-i7-3770k/
So Nvidia's die shrinks seem to be much more valuable than Intel's. Or AMD's. Nvidia got more performance right, but as we know, it's very easy to get more performance on GPU with die shrink whereas on CPU's that is not even guaranteed.
Or somehow judge a product to be less worthy than it appears to be, simply because the competition is worse? The truth of the matter is that the 1080 was just better than any other graphics card physically available at the time (May 2016); the same is true of the Ti version (March 2017).
That's exactly what happens on other articles. Intel's CPU's were not receiving good scores because of what? Competition was bad so they kept development speed low but still better than Nvidia with GTX 1080 Ti.
So fastest product on market should automatically receive 100/100 or at least 90/100? Why that didn't apply on Intel CPU's past years? Most Intel's "fastest CPU on market" didn't get even 90/100 like this
https://www.techspot.com/review/679-intel-haswell-core-i7-4770k/page14.html
Reading article, that is because it was so small improvement.
This is the problem with GTX 1080 and GTX 1080 Ti scores. While your arguments are somehow valid when staying those articles only, it's very clear that outside those articles arguments don't apply at all. It's clear that GTX cards got scores from something very different scoring system many other products get.