I must have done something. But I don't remember what, or when. But these things don't show up for no reason. About 3 weeks ago these two things started showing up at start up. problem starting C:\windows|system32\LOGILDA.DLL The specific module could not be found ( lots of 0s) followed by814B2E in module 'Itr.exe'.read of address ( lots of 0s) followed by2D8 And. Exception EAccess Violation in module Itr.exe at (or possibly et or ct) Sloppy hand writing, and I don't want to restart my computer to see it again, and have to type this all over. Naturally if you tell me I have to I will. I left them on so long because they don't seem to be causing any problems other than irritation.