Nvidia GeForce RTX 4070 Ti Super Review

[Nintenboy01]

This card actually made the 4070 Super more attractive. I would be pairing it with a 5800X anyway which would be a bit of a bottleneck depending on the game, and 12GB VRAM might be enough for 1440p until the next console generation rolls around. May just have to turn textures or shadows down a notch in some games

 

[redgarl]

So, 10% more cores, but not quite a 10% across the board uplift. Though, @4K it is pretty close to that 10%.

DMG CTRL at its best... the NVDelusionals never stop to impress me.

It is 5%, not 10% faster.

 

[redgarl]

The SUPER TI branding was still not enough to beat the 7900XT... /SARCASM

Absolutely pathetic since the 7900XT is already cheaper.

Even with the RT performance, it is pretty much a draw.

Now you add the 12VHPWR in the melee and you understand that you are better going AMD.

 

[BogdanR]

The only thing that’s not deflating about this card is its price. Oh, wait…

 

[Julio Franco]

Correction (Jan 23): In the original spec table we had mistaken a few of the tech specs for the 4070 Ti Super, especifically the core configuration, L2 cache and memory bandwidth.

 

[Julio Franco]

There seems to be confusion on the size of the L2 cache. Most sites (not all) are listing the 4070 ti super as having 64 mb of L2 cache, though nvidia says it only has 48 mb on their website.

Thanks. Now corrected in the table and intro.

Observation: Nvidia has missed the chance to have a proper 4080 'lite' or 'junior' again. They opted instead to have the 4070 Ti Super. Why can't they name cards made with the same chip into the same named product range? Is it that hard to group products made with the same silicon into the same tier? For all the genius of Jensen, they just can't nail the names.....

Naming is bad, we agree. However, as irrelevant as it is for a product review (where we mostly focus on performance and value, etc.), the reason they are offering these refreshed GPUs is no other than binning and marketing.

 

[Mr Majestyk]

AMD cut the price of the 7900XT to $749 Officially last week (how the hell can you not know this) and yet you guys still say it's $900 to make Nvidia look better.

 

[Julio Franco]

AMD cut the price of the 7900XT to $749 Officially last week (how the hell can you not know this) and yet you guys still say it's $900 to make Nvidia look better.

No, we didn't. It's clearly explained in the intro and the cost per frame text.

There is no "official" press release, we know because we get them straight from AMD, but regardless, the retail/newegg cost per frame data and graph account for the discount, as do our intro and conclusion.

 

[EdmondRC]

DMG CTRL at its best... the NVDelusionals never stop to impress me.

It is 5%, not 10% faster.

There was a caveat at the beginning of this review for the MSI Ventus. I suggest you go read Techpowerups review of the Asus Tuf, the results are much more in line with expectations, 6-10% with 4K being on the higher end, 10%. Basically what you would expect from 10% more cores, disappointed, but expected.

 

[takaozo]

The cost per frame is made with original price, but today old cards dont see that MSRP any more... so useless.

Here a more real table;
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/asus-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-super-tuf/34.html

 

[yRaz]

No, we didn't. It's clearly explained in the intro and the cost per frame text.

There is no "official" press release, we know because we get them straight from AMD, but regardless, the retail/newegg cost per frame data and graph account for the discount, as do our intro and conclusion.

Just letting you know, the 4080 super is going to be released in abundance. We aren't going to see 4070 ti Supers for awhile. The 4080 super is going to average $1100 so please don't compare it to AMDs MSRP in the next review.

Comparing nVidia's MSRP to AMDs MSRP is poor journalism. The 4080 super is going to cost A LOT MORE than it's MSRP so don't make that comparison against the XTX in the next review.

Please ignore nVidia's MSRP in future reviews. The only unit that will sell for the MSRP is the one directly from nVidia. All the board partners are going to be way over.

Worst part is, because of nVidia's BS business practices, AMD doesn't have to give a serious price drop. There isn't going to be an official price drop on the 7900xtx and the 7900xt is going to keep its unofficial price drop to 720. The xtx is VERY popular in the AI space and it's not going to see an official or unofficial price drop

 

[Relic187]

Just letting you know, the 4080 super is going to be released in abundance. We aren't going to see 4070 ti Supers for awhile. The 4080 super is going to average $1100 so please don't compare it to AMDs MSRP in the next review.

Comparing nVidia's MSRP to AMDs MSRP is poor journalism. The 4080 super is going to cost A LOT MORE than it's MSRP so don't make that comparison against the XTX in the next review.

Please ignore nVidia's MSRP in future reviews. The only unit that will sell for the MSRP is the one directly from nVidia. All the board partners are going to be way over.

Worst part is, because of nVidia's BS business practices, AMD doesn't have to give a serious price drop. There isn't going to be an official price drop on the 7900xtx and the 7900xt is going to keep its unofficial price drop to 720. The xtx is VERY popular in the AI space and it's not going to see an official or unofficial price drop

The xtx is not popular with AI users,as it has terrible AI performance like all AMD cards. Ask me how I know. Since AMD lacks cuda cores their cards are doa for redshift rendering & for AI.

 

[yRaz]

The xtx is not popular with AI users,as it has terrible AI performance like all AMD cards. Ask me how I know. Since AMD lacks cuda cores their cards are doa for redshift rendering & for AI

I'm asking you how you know. And unless you want to buy say, idk, 40 xtx's then I don't really care who you are

 

[daffy duck]

No, we didn't. It's clearly explained in the intro and the cost per frame text.

There is no "official" press release, we know because we get them straight from AMD, but regardless, the retail/newegg cost per frame data and graph account for the discount, as do our intro and conclusion.

They "officially" cut the price last week. That's not hearsay, only you and Hardware Unboxed say otherwise. You can literally find that news on any tech site in about 2 seconds.

 

[yRaz]

They "officially" cut the price last week. That's not hearsay, only you and Hardware Unboxed say otherwise. You can literally find that news on any tech site in about 2 seconds.

I don't work for this website and I know people at AMD, they didn't "officially" cut the price. It is "on sale" at best. Whether AMD's current price cut is permanent or not is entirely on nVidia because the 7900xt has already been selling bellow MSRP for awhile now.

 

[MarcusNumb]

"New GPU", old debates, same disappointments, I'll just wait for the 8xxx series from AMD and 5xxx series to see if things can be more interesting and worthy or not xD

 

[gdavid65]

In Australia, with our pricing, it's more like the 7900XT 20gb v 4070 Super 12gb vis-a-vis. Between those two, already the 7900XT poops on it from a great height.

"Step up" to the 4070TI Super, and the 7900XT comes with 20gb RAM vs an "upgraded" 16gb in the 4070 Ti Super for less performance and a big jump in price . Forget about it!

 

[Strawman]

What are you talking about, the 4080 was the 4080 lite, the difference is that they changed the name and increased the price. They called a 70 and 80, a 60 a 79 and a 50 a 60. The 4090 was the 4080 and the 4080 was the 4070ti. Then they increased the price by 20% across the board. I think the 40 series is the worst release I can remember and I owned a 5700GT in the early 2000s

If the 4090 is a 4080, how come the 7900xtx gets blasted by a 4080? That doesn't make sense to me. Last gen the 6800xt was competitive with a 3080, now the 7800xt is like half the performance of the "4080".

 

[Nintenboy01]

In Australia, with our pricing, it's more like the 7900XT 20gb v 4070 Super 12gb vis-a-vis. Between those two, already the 7900XT poops on it from a great height.

"Step up" to the 4070TI Super, and the 7900XT comes with 20gb RAM vs an "upgraded" 16gb in the 4070 Ti Super for less performance and a big jump in price . Forget about it!

Problem is I value RT and DLSS, as much as I'd love to get an AMD card again

 

[yRaz]

If the 4090 is a 4080, how come the 7900xtx gets blasted by a 4080? That doesn't make sense to me. Last gen the 6800xt was competitive with a 3080, now the 7800xt is like half the performance of the "4080".

The 40 series knocked it out of the park in efficiency and RDNA3 had the MCU flaw that reduced performance by about 20%. If you handed me the 4090 spec sheet without the name on it it looks like an 80 class card on paper.

 

[BabaYaga]

Why are you using the MSRP Cost per Frame when it's so outdated? 6950 is $550 at MicroCenter with 25 in stock. You have it listed at $1,100.

That makes it the cheapest cost per frame and also capable of 4k. It's been the best card all of 2023 and still is for the money. $5/frame

https://www.microcenter.com/product...t-triple-fan-16gb-gddr6-pcie-40-graphics-card

I had it for a year and there is still nothing to upgrade to.

 

[ScottSoapbox]

DMG CTRL at its best... the NVDelusionals never stop to impress me.

It is 5%, not 10% faster.

In this review, but the other 2 I read today had the 10% faster the spec bump suggested. I think something was weird with their card. Steve even said he’d be updating the numbers for the 4080 S comparison.

10% is still underwhelming but makes sense in a positioning sense of half way between the 4070 Ti & estimated 4080 S.

 

[loki1944]

Why even bother making this GPU?

 

[Atmajaya2020]

So happy to know that there is a 4070 series using 16gb vram+256bit..
but that happiness suddenly disappear after seeing this results..
its performance is truly as ludicrous as its name..

 

[Gastec]

I bet there are people out there who would replace their "dated" 12 GB RTX 4070 Ti with the new 16 GB RTX 4070 Ti Super. It used to happen in the times of EVGA's Step-Up Program.