Nvidia RTX 40 Super lineup might improve performance without wattage increase

[Daniel Sims]

Why it matters: Rumors of impending "Super" variants of Nvidia's latest RTX 40 series graphics cards could allow the company to address some of that lineup's shortcomings. The latest information suggests Nvidia might deliver improvements without increasing power consumption, easing the recurring fear of requiring ever-hungrier power supplies.

Prominent leaker Kopite7kimi's latest rumor on the supposedly upcoming RTX 40 Super series indicates its GPUs will consume just as much power as the standard RTX 40 cards. If true, the stats demonstrate efficiency gains, allowing users to easily upgrade without buying new power supply units.

Leakers like Hongxing2020 and MEGAsizeGPU began posting information about three possible upgraded Ada Lovelace graphics cards last month: variants of the RTX 4070, 4070 Ti, and 4080 carrying "Super" labels akin to the RTX 20 Super series. According to MEGAsizeGPU, the 4070 Super could upgrade from 12 to 16GB of VRAM and migrate from the AD104 to the AD103 GPU.

Kopite later claimed that the 4070 Super could retain the AD103 and that the 4070 Ti Super and 4080 Super might upgrade to the AD102 chip. Furthermore, Nvidia could cease 4080 shipments as the 4080 Super replaces it. However, the information is at least several weeks old, and the leakers admit low confidence surrounding it, especially regarding the 4070 Ti.

When Nvidia initially launched the RTX 40 series, some critics said its lower-than-expected performance improvement over the RTX 30 series didn't justify its increased prices. Furthermore, many considered 12GB of VRAM insufficient for the RTX 4070. Thus, a faster 16GB model would be welcome, depending on the cost.

They will have the same power consumption than non-super models. https://t.co/1vG6lsO4Kx

– kopite7kimi (@kopite7kimi) November 2, 2023

Concerns about Ada Lovelace's power consumption started before the lineup's first products shipped. Pessimistic predictions suggested that the biggest RTX 40 GPU could need up to 800W, but these fears were ultimately unfounded. While the flagship RTX 4090 leaped to 450W from its predecessor's 350W, most Lovelace cards had similar TDPs to their RTX 30 series counterparts. Now, it appears Nvidia managed to maintain the same power levels on the Super variants.

A mid-generation refresh could make sense, depending on how long it takes for RTX 50 to arrive. Some suspect the upcoming series, which promises more significant performance uplifts, might start shipping by the end of 2024, but other information indicates it could get delayed into 2025.

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[gigantor21]

I'm more worried about overall value than raw performance with these.

 

[Neatfeatguy]

Wattage increase? No!

Price increase? Absolutely!

Gullible people to buy them? No doubt about it!

 

[d5aqoep]

There are enough rich people in this world for Nvidia to justify the pricing

 

[maxxcool7421]

"""Rumors of impending "Super" variants of Nvidia's latest RTX 40 series graphics cards could allow the company to address some of that lineup's shortcomings"""

ummm these super chips also add shaders, rops and tesnor cores typically ... that will increase wattage unless they downclock it a bunch.

 

[Jeff Schmidt]

The 4xxx series is such a failure of products. The only decent cards are the 4080 and 4090 and they are priced way to high for it to matter. The 4070 would be a good card but its pretty much a 3080 that maxes at 1440p cause the crap 192bit bus that cripples it. And its only 100 bucks cheaper than a 3080 was 3 years ago. Well 150 now thanks to AMD but the 7xxx is disappointing on its own.

 

[i like foxes]

Jeff Schmidt , 4xxx are the best cards at the moment - fastest and most power efficient .

 

[Jack77]

"""Rumors of impending "Super" variants of Nvidia's latest RTX 40 series graphics cards could allow the company to address some of that lineup's shortcomings"""

ummm these super chips also add shaders, rops and tesnor cores typically ... that will increase wattage unless they downclock it a bunch.

Thought so too. Unless the TBP of the current boards has margin.

 

[Bobbydpue]

"Nvidia RTX 40 Super lineup might improve performance without wattage increase".

The correct term is "power" not "wattage" That's like referring to temperature using Fahrenheit like "lets increase the Fahrenheit in the oven to 250".

 

[Theinsanegamer]

"""Rumors of impending "Super" variants of Nvidia's latest RTX 40 series graphics cards could allow the company to address some of that lineup's shortcomings"""

ummm these super chips also add shaders, rops and tesnor cores typically ... that will increase wattage unless they downclock it a bunch.

The 4000 series can be made far more efficient with a bit of tuning. You can get 97% of the GPUs performance with 50-60% the power draw. People do it on 4090s all the time.

It's well within reason that they could add more cores, tunes the clocks a bit, and add more performance without an increase in wattage.

"Nvidia RTX 40 Super lineup might improve performance without wattage increase".

The correct term is "power" not "wattage" That's like referring to temperature using Fahrenheit like "lets increase the Fahrenheit in the oven to 250".

You must be fun at parties.

 

[Notmare]

I'd find it more interesting to know what power connector these cards will feature.

 

[hash70]

Pricing is out of control.there killing the pc market,after 12y of having a mid to high end pc I gave up and bought a ps5,so far I'm happy with it,graphics are good with alot running at 120hrz