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To AstalaVista,

If the speed of the memory stick is different, your PC will have unpredictable abend such as bugcheck 0A,50 or D1. Are you using the memory stick with same speed right now? It is meaningless to study your minidumps if the memory stick have different speed.

To Tchiseen,

I understand that you are frustrate for your PC problem. I want to clarify that the failing module of the latest dump is at the ATI driver and I am not the staff of ATI. You should send the minidumps to ATI technical support to ask for why your windows crashes at ATI driver. It is responsibity of ATI tell you the solution and not me. Your windows version is changed from w2k3 back to XP basic version. Your windows environment is so dynamic and it is very diifficult to trace the problem. At least your windows should be at XP SP2 before you report the problem to ATI.
 
cpc2004, I am currently using a 512 MB RAM stick and a 256 MB RAM stick, both the same speed, PC400.

I purchased the new one just last week, on February 3.
 
Hello,
As most users in this forum, i have got the same problem, with blue screens randomly appearing. The blue screens dont appear when the system is idle, they only happen when the system is stressed.During a game, or if i try to do two things simultaneously.
I tried removing my audigy sound card as it has been a lot of trouble in the past, and my pc ran fine for two days.at the end of the third day, i reinstalled the card because i needed the live drive.i got two crashes the next day, and another one the day after.i think all of them were page fault etc, some of them referencing nv4_disp.dll, and ntfs.sys .
Note that following cpc2004's suggestions i downgraded my nvidia drivers to the stable ones and (i think) i got no more crashes referencing nv4_disp.dll, although i havent used the pc much yet.
I am troubled, because i think it's audigy's problem, although it might be a power issue.
Oh yes, cpc2004: memtest86.org is not working. and btw great work helping the people out.
hope someone has something to propose!
kritonas
 
Hi Kritonas,

Attach 3 to 4 minidumps and I will process the dump to confirm wether it is hardware probem or not.

cpc2004
 
Allright, thanks cpc, you're great. i'm not home now, so i'll do that later in the afternoon. I am sure now after working a couple of days with audigy, and a couple of days without it, that the computer crashes only when it is present. Now the question,is: is it a power issue or is it audigy;s fault? The card on the one hand is power hungry, since it has the live drive, but also creative has a well established reputation for its bad support, drivers and incompatability of its devices.
I'll attach the minidumps later, and i hope that gets us somewhere. Oh yeah, i also thought of removing all peripherals from my pc(except audigy and other essential stuff), to test if its a power issue.
 
dumps

ive got these dumps recently, but windows is crashing more then just these: it locks up, or just shuts down. i think its a heat issue, but my cpu doesnt throttle , just crash. i do notice decreased perfomance but that's all the time.
 
To Tchiseen,

I've processed your minidump. None of them are accesible by windbg. I use notepad to view the content and they are pagefile. Windows use pagefile as the staging are to dump the memory. After it reboots, it copies the dump to minidump. The dump taking are failed and it is indication of hardware problem.

I can process the minidump that you attached at your previous post. It seems your PC hardware is getting worser than before. The hardware problem may be CPU, motherboard or faulty PSU. If it is overheat, the PC will shutdown and not reboot. Reboot does not resolve overheat problem and only shutdown the PC and let the hardware cool down. Only the stupid hardware designer will let the system reboot for overheat issue.
 
ouch. so you say the issue is CPU, mobo or psu? i just got a brand new case (coolermaster) w/psu (the people i bought it from said that the psu was my problem before, and that i needed a new one) so im assuming they fixed that problem.. how could i figure out wether it was the CPU or the mobo causing the crashes.

btw you are right, the system shuts down and doesnt reboot sometimes, but other times it just hangs and i have to reboot. also, i am not getting any throttling (i use throttlewatch to check but there is none). i just recently put the MPU 3.7 thermal grease on it and it's actually made it worse. ive put the right amount on, not too much or little, what could be the problem?
 
Hello cpc,
Here are three minidumps with my software list.
Thanks in advance,
kritonas

p.s as i said, now i removed the audigy card from my pc and everything works fine.i am just wondering if it's a psu problem or audigy.hope you can find out:)

ooh this is getting more and more interesting.as soon as i posted the previous message, i inserted a cd into my drive and the pc crashed after some seconds.but i got a different message than other times, stating something about a pfn(or pnf?) list.here is my minidump.

this leaves me believing that its the psu's problem.
 
atrice said:
cpc2004, were you able to identify any hardware problems from my latest minidumps?
I'm not a hardware expert and the processing result shows that it is hardware error. Some PC manufacturer has their own hardware diagnostic tools such as IBM PC. There have no freeware tools to diagnostic hardware and identify which hardware component is faulty. Ramtest and Prime 95 can only find out minor hardware problem but they idenify which component is in problem.

kritonas said:
Hello cpc,
Here are three minidumps with my software list.
Thanks in advance,
kritonas

p.s as i said, now i removed the audigy card from my pc and everything works fine.i am just wondering if it's a psu problem or audigy.hope you can find out:)

ooh this is getting more and more interesting.as soon as i posted the previous message, i inserted a cd into my drive and the pc crashed after some seconds.but i got a different message than other times, stating something about a pfn(or pnf?) list.here is my minidump.

this leaves me believing that its the psu's problem.

The processing results of the last two dumps are caused by hardware. The faulty hardware may be caused by memory, CPU, m/b or PSU. Reseat the memory stick to another slot may resolve the problem. Othewise you have to your PC to hardware shop.


Probably caused by : memory_corruption
PFN_LIST_CORRUPT (4e)
Typically caused by drivers passing bad memory descriptor lists (ie: calling
MmUnlockPages twice with the same list, etc). If a kernel debugger is
available get the stack trace.
Arguments:
Arg1: 00000099, A PTE or PFN is corrupt
Arg2: 00000000, page frame number
Arg3: 00000001, current page state
Arg4: 00000000, 0

Debugging Details:
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PFN_PAGE_SINGLE_BIT_ERROR: Bugcheck args 2 and 3 differ by a bit, its hardware error.

MEMORY_CORRUPTOR: ONE_BIT
CUSTOMER_CRASH_COUNT: 1
DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID: DRIVER_FAULT
BUGCHECK_STR: 0x4E

Another dump shows that the failing IRQL is 1c which is the clock interrupt. It only fails unless it is a hardware error.

BugCheck 1000000A, {b1eab104, 1c, 1, 804dcccd}
Probably caused by : memory_corruption

CHKIMG_EXTENSION: !chkimg -lo 50 -db !nt
4 errors : !nt (804dcccf-804dccff)
804dccc0 7d d0 83 ec 10 89 5c 24 0c 89 74 24 08 89 7c *89 }.....\$..t$..|.
804dccd0 04 89 2c 24 64 8b 1d 1c 00 00 00 8b b3 28 01 *21 ..,$d........(.!
804dcce0 00 8b bb 24 01 00 00 c7 83 28 01 00 00 00 00 *64 ...$.....(.....d
804dccf0 00 89 b3 24 01 00 00 88 4f 58 8b cf c6 47 50 *02 ...$....OX...GP.

MODULE_NAME: memory_corruption
IMAGE_NAME: memory_corruption
FOLLOWUP_NAME: memory_corruption
DEBUG_FLR_IMAGE_TIMESTAMP: 0
MEMORY_CORRUPTOR: STRIDE
 
well since i got this pc, a dvd-rw, a 512mb ram stick, a hard disk, and the power supply failed(and replaced it by a same one).
fortunately all were covered by guarantee.
so i'm pretty sure its the power supply, i'll be buying another one.i hope it hasnt destroyed anything else.
i've got sandra pro, do you think it is good enough to point out any further info?
 
i ran hot cpu tester pro, which stresses and tests the cpu, l1 and l2 cache, ram and chipset.
Everything seems to be fine.
i'm ordering a power supply tonight. i'll update my post when i test the new power supply. i hope that's the problem.

oh yeah yesterday i noticed that my computer crashed if i started up and didnt do anything for some seconds.it did that 3-4 times, and in order to not do that, i had to move the mouse when windows loaded.

thats all
kritonas
 
solved by services

Hello I am in no way a windows techy so if i have given any "dangerous" advice please feel free to step in and aloberate where needed.

I`ve been having big problems such as nancyj`s with BSOD along with different error codes, to cut a very long story short I took cpc2004`s advice and installed the named nvidea driver (61_77), it seemed to work for a bit then the BSOD`returned, I was so desperate to find out what the problem was that I ran msconfig then set it to load the defaults, I restarted and my system ran smooth and normal EXCEPT that I was unable to connect to the net so i ran services.msc then set all services to defaults I used windows help to show me how, another problem I had previously was that my PC was very noisey almost sounding like a lawn mower, I also had trouble restarting my PC and had to use the switch at the back, that noise has gone now and so far I haven`t had any more problems, although I`m still trying to solve the restart problem.

James
 
When I try to play World of Warcraft, my pc will crash with a BSOD after a few minutes.
The BSOD is totally blue without text when he's displayed on the screen, but if I read the minidumps in Windbg, they aren't empty.
I tried Ati Catalyst drivers: 5.2, 5.1, 4.12 (All with Catalyst Control Center)
When doing other stuff on my pc, no games just some downloading, programming, editing etc., runs normal without errors.

My pc:
Windows XP SP2
Abit NF7-S
AMD Athlon XP-M 2600
2 x 512 MB TwinMOS 3200 DDR
Sapphire Radeon 9800 Pro
 
The analysis result of the minidump shows that it is the memory corruption. I believe that this is the hardware problem such as RAM, CPU, M/B or PSU.

CHKIMG_EXTENSION: !chkimg -lo 50 -db !nt
8 errors : !nt (80566704-8056673c)
80566700 f4 83 c3 f0 *c1 23 00 8b cb 89 4d dc *b5 a1 24 01 .....#....M...$.
80566710 00 00 89 45 *db 8b 70 20 89 75 c4 8b *86 89 7d c0 ...E..p .u....}.
80566720 8b 5d e4 89 *51 ff 75 18 ff 75 14 e8 *8c ca f7 ff .]..Q.u..u......
80566730 89 45 d4 89 *94 83 4d fc ff 33 c0 40 *ea 45 e0 89 .E....M..3.@.E..

MODULE_NAME: memory_corruption
IMAGE_NAME: memory_corruption
FOLLOWUP_NAME: memory_corruption
DEBUG_FLR_IMAGE_TIMESTAMP: 0
MEMORY_CORRUPTOR: STRIDE
 
My pc has been up and running for some hours, tried playing some games as well and it wont crash with the new psu(knock on wood).
I hope it goes on like that.

So it seems the psu was the problem for the bsod's.

Strange thing is that the new psu supplies 11.5 volts to the 12v rail, but everything works smoothly.

Btw i bought an ebuyer extra value "600w" dual fan psu.
Seems nice, i hope it works good.
only time will tell.
*crosses fingers*
thanks cpc:D
 
uh, quick question, what should my volatages be? my +12 is like 11.13, 11.07.. i think that's low, idk, my vcore is 1.66 and +5 is 5.35

*help*
 
*sigh*
first crash today.PFN_LIST_CORRUPTED
it happened just when i exited NFSU2.just when i returned to desktop, bsod.
If it happens again i'll post a minidump.
 
tchiseen said:
uh, quick question, what should my volatages be? my +12 is like 11.13, 11.07.. i think that's low, idk, my vcore is 1.66 and +5 is 5.35

*help*
I'm not really expert on those stuff man but i guess +12 should be around 12 volts hehe etc...
you should download a monitor if you havent, and monitor those voltages.
my motherboard has its own monitor on its cd, and the alarm only triggers when the voltage exceeds +-10% of the labeled voltage, so i'm not sure how this works.
 
Hi Tchiseen,

Again your minidumps are inaccessible and your PC has severe hardware problem. As you change the PSU, most likely it is CPU or motherboard problem.

cpc2004
 
Related problem

I have been having an ongoing problem with page fault and irql not less or equal errors (usually when I am running games, like Civ III, The Sims, and Black & White, but not always) I have updated Windows XP and my drivers. I don't know what to do anymore... Here are my details

The computer was built by someone I know, he seems to know what he is talking about when it comes to this kind of thing, but then, I don't know if I would know the difference...

My computer runs off an ASUS A7V8X motherboard

I used to have a ATI RV6DL video card, with an ATI driver which I thought was the cause of my problem. I went though the whole tech-support thing with them, I have enough power, I had enough RAM and enough hard-drive space, and there was nothing more they could do for me (but thank you for the $20.00 anyway)

I replaced the card with a brand new ASUS GeForce fx 5200, and for about a week, everything seemed peachy, then last night it started up again (I have only experienced it with Black & White so far, but that is the only game I have tried...) I have updated the driver with the most recent version.

I would appreciate any advice or help anybody can give me. I am ready to chuck the stupid computer out the window, buy a Commodore 64 and play Space Invaders for the rest of my life...
 
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