Protesters occupied Microsoft president Brad Smith's office over Israel contract row

[lonetac]

I never stated the solution is “Shout at your TV!” - you insinuated that yourself.

Doing something “real, in public” when it involves something as childish and futile as this doesn’t show they have balls, it shows they have no critical thinking skills on how they want to actually see this problem they’re envisioning fixed.

If these individuals really wanted to make a difference, they’d petition their government for change, start an organization to push said change, lobby etc. - you know, begin the process of actually making a difference instead of trespassing and throwing a tantrum for clicks and views.

Sorry, but the “disrupt others for attention” game doesn’t work, even if it makes you feel all warm, fuzzy, and (somehow) justified inside.

Did you skip history class in school?

How to say you dont know USA history without saying you dont know USA history. Classic.

Its also a constitutionally protected right. Why do constitution thumpers always pick and choose?

 

[candle86]

Did you skip history class in school?

How to say you dont know USA history without saying you dont know USA history. Classic.

Its also a constitutionally protected right. Why do constitution thumpers always pick and choose?

It is not a constitutional right to break into private property and occupy the building.

 

[lonetac]

It is not a constitutional right to break into private property and occupy the building.

Like Jan 6th? I agree, they shouldnt have been pardoned and should have been arrested.

Also reading comprehension. I said protest is a constitutionally protected right. Read it again since you seem to fail at reading it. Your post made fun of and insulted people who express their constitutionally protected right.

 

[Hexic]

Did you skip history class in school?

How to say you dont know USA history without saying you dont know USA history. Classic.

Its also a constitutionally protected right. Why do constitution thumpers always pick and choose?

So your answer to this is, compare other instances of public disturbances (I.e. Civil Rights, as a noble one) to this, insinuating that this form of illegal protest is just as good “for the cause”? And then have the gall to call out 6JAN?

You really have a habit of picking and choosing which civil disturbances fit your political and emotional stances, while ignoring everything that doesn’t.

You fail to see the gravity of a real movement that happened in, say, 1963 - compared to this misdemeanor level of temper tantrum.

 

[candle86]

Like Jan 6th? I agree, they shouldnt have been pardoned and should have been arrested.

Also reading comprehension. I said protest is a constitutionally protected right. Read it again since you seem to fail at reading it. Your post made fun of and insulted people who express their constitutionally protected right.

You don't have a constitutional right to break into Microsoft's building in protest you just do not. Also I don't agree fully with the January 6th pardons. I think the sentences were rather harsh compared to the same level of sentences handed out to BLM that legitimately destroyed and fire bombed cities during the summer of love. But I do disagree with the full pardon.

Like I said Microsoft's just moved to Texas because then if they want to storm their offices the state of Texas says it's okay to shoot them for doing so because they're trespassing as a violent mob whereas in Washington they say no you have to let them in the office and if you try to retaliate we're going to arrest you.

 

[lonetac]

So your answer to this is, compare other instances of public disturbances (I.e. Civil Rights, as a noble one) to this, insinuating that this form of illegal protest is just as good “for the cause”? And then have the gall to call out 6JAN?

You really have a habit of picking and choosing which civil disturbances fit your political and emotional stances, while ignoring everything that doesn’t.

You fail to see the gravity of a real movement that happened in, say, 1963 - compared to this misdemeanor level of temper tantrum.

No I dont. That was simple.

Look at previous person's post, you obviously have the same perspective and would hold them to the same standards. Right?

Boston tea party mean anything to you?

 

[GeoffreyA]

Considering the ICC in the ICJ are both currently ran by places like China that aren't even aware with the phrase human rights means I don't really care what your opinion is nor of theirs. As far as these experts again these are experts for places that don't have the ability to define human rights abuses. The simple fact is the land is Israel's if you want it come and take it but I guarantee you'll lose.

The only genocide going on is one being caused by Hamas and the Palestinian people. They are completely responsible for what is happening over there 100%.

As for your argument against human shields if the terrorist had a rocket launcher and was going to fire it into somewhere else and then I would have stopped them was for the FBI to bomb the building You're done right the FBI is going to level the place. The same things happening over there a moss likes to put their rocket launchers and weapons stockpiles where civilians are, this gives Israel the choice of allow Hamas to attack freely into Israel murdering people because they can't respond because Hamas has put them where civilians are, or to destroy it and accept civilian casualties. I agree with Israel civilian casualties are justified in this situation.

The ICC and ICJ are not run by China, but are among the top international courts in the world. As for your claim that the land is Israel's, what is the reference for that, the Old Testament?

I disagree with your arguments, but let's agree to disagree. Debating will go nowhere.

 

[AlexIL]

I'll try to explain why people keep talking about Gaza. I believe it's less to do with antisemitism and more to do with how Israel has been complaining bitterly about the holocaust 85 years ago but is now itself committing genocide on a neighbouring country. Israel is admittedly not using gas chambers but is instead starving the people and turning off their water. It is bombing civilian apartment blocks with jet fighters, destroying hospitals, churches and schools etc. It is killing foreign aid workers and hiding their bodies. So far Israel has killed 61,000 civilians including 17,000 children.

Hopefully that helps why the world currently looks on in horror at what Israel is doing.

I would ask you to provide me one name in history of humanity, just one, no need for more where an army feeds a population of it's adversary. There was none in known history, only IDF feeds Gaza population. Of course they cut out UNRWA out of it as everything given to these clowns were going directly to enemy combatants. You'd do the same.
Would you believe Goebbels propaganda during WWII residing in UK or USA? Obviously if you anyhow reasonable man you would not. Why you believe HAMAS propaganda? Because you want to believe it.

United States obliterated two countries after 9/11 attacks. Allies destroyed Dresden completely, the entire city had to be rebuild from zero during WWII.

It is a hypocrisy to call for Israel to have proportionate answer to it's civilian population being massacred. What is proportionate answer? Was Hirosima and Nagasaki was proportionate to wipe them out of the face of the planet but save potentially millions dead by ground invasion? Was US overthrow of Irak and Afghanistan regimes was proportionate to protect the West from repeat of 9/11 attacks?

 

[GeoffreyA]

I would ask you to provide me one name in history of humanity, just one, no need for more where an army feeds a population of it's adversary. There was none in known history, only IDF feeds Gaza population. Of course they cut out UNRWA out of it as everything given to these clowns were going directly to enemy combatants. You'd do the same.
Would you believe Goebbels propaganda during WWII residing in UK or USA? Obviously if you anyhow reasonable man you would not. Why you believe HAMAS propaganda? Because you want to believe it.

United States obliterated two countries after 9/11 attacks. Allies destroyed Dresden completely, the entire city had to be rebuild from zero during WWII.

It is a hypocrisy to call for Israel to have proportionate answer to it's civilian population being massacred. What is proportionate answer? Was Hirosima and Nagasaki was proportionate to wipe them out of the face of the planet but save potentially millions dead by ground invasion? Was US overthrow of Irak and Afghanistan regimes was proportionate to protect the West from repeat of 9/11 attacks?

Israel, the one doing the killing and destruction, claims that the events in Gaza are Hamas propaganda. Against this are mountains of evidence documenting what is happening there daily, so much so that even hasbara is struggling to sweep it under the carpet. Their smearing of UNRWA, without verified evidence, is another stop on their road of smear campaigns.

Historical precedent does not justify crimes in the present. The killing of civilians by the Allies was wrong, as was the US bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and all the deaths they wrought in the Middle East during their so-called war on terror. America is not the moral saviour they are uncritically portrayed to be. Much of their actions throughout history have been criminal.

 

[AlexIL]

Israel, the one doing the killing and destruction, claims that the events in Gaza are Hamas propaganda. Against this are mountains of evidence documenting what is happening there daily, so much so that even hasbara is struggling to sweep it under the carpet. Their smearing of UNRWA, without verified evidence, is another stop on their road of smear campaigns.

Historical precedent does not justify crimes in the present. The killing of civilians by the Allies was wrong, as was the US bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and all the deaths they wrought in the Middle East during their so-called war on terror. America is not the moral saviour they are uncritically portrayed to be. Much of their actions throughout history have been criminal.

Would you care to provide thw evidence you are talking about or shut up forever mr antis mite?
Or your evidence is terror organization statements without base and fake videos they got caught with every time?
UNRWA had no need to bw smeared, terror weaponry was found at their sites and their workers filmed taking part in atrocities.

You are either useful ***** or antisemite. No point in further discussion with you.