Sony exec says PS5 is better for gaming than a PC, talks console release strategy

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In context: Sony says it's ready to "attack" this holiday season, with the PlayStation 5 seemingly on its way to becoming the most successful and profitable console in company history. With inventory issues now in the rearview, the Japanese entertainment giant is confident it can sell a total of 25 million units in the current fiscal year which ends in March 2024.

The PlayStation 5 ecosystem recently got bigger with the addition of a handheld called PlayStation Portal, followed by the PS5 Slim which has a bit more storage than the original as well as a slightly refined design. The former promises to offer the PS5 experience in a portable package, but it's unclear if there's enough demand for it. Sony expects the PS5 Slim will likely sell like hotcakes this holiday season alongside regular variants, though it will be interesting to see if the company will be able to reach its self-imposed sales target of 25 million units.

Hideaki Nishino, who is Senior Vice President of Platform Experience at Sony Interactive Entertainment, told Nikkei Asia during a recent interview that the PS5 is the superior gaming platform at the moment when compared to PC, even though we're already seeing AAA console releases such as Starfield that are locked at 30 frames per second. The recently released GTA VI footage suggests Rockstar might target 30 frames per second for all current generation consoles, sparking online arguments between low frame rate apologists and people who feel like being limited to 30 fps in GTA VI would be an insult to them regardless of any promises of great graphical fidelity.

Truth be told, Nishino does make a good point during the interview that a PS5 is much easier to set up for people who are only interested in playing the latest titles without worrying about any other details. However, he made it sound like spending money and time to build a gaming PC is somehow only rewarding for hardware geeks.

Sure, buying the PS5 is cheaper than building a PC with similar performance, and even more so when looking at most pre-built options. However, Sony's console is designed as an entertainment system with fixed hardware specs, while a PC can be used for additional purposes like work and study and upgraded with more powerful hardware over time.

On that note, Nishino explains that Sony isn't worried about performance just yet. The company believes games are only now starting to take advantage of PS5 features such as fast loading times, citing the recently released Spider-Man 2 as an example.

There have been rumors of an impending PS5 Pro refresh with double the power of the regular PS5, but that seems unlikely given that most PS5-focused releases are running just fine on it. There are also cost considerations involved in making a more powerful PS5 console, and Sony might not be interested in packing more compute units into the PS5 SoC as it would likely require a move to a smaller process node where the wafer cost is simply too high for it to make any sense at this point.

Furthermore, Nishino says the company made significant efforts to ensure a steady supply of the 2,000 parts that are needed to make a PS5. Even when considering the Covid-related supply shocks of yesteryear, it took Sony almost three years to be able to confidently say you won't have to search for a PS5 if you want one. Adding a PS5 Pro into the mix sounds like a logistical nightmare, and the games that will make full use of its capabilities are probably years away from being released.

Improving PS5's availability and making sure there's plenty of content to draw people into the ecosystem remain high on Sony's priority list, especially in the wake of Microsoft's acquisition of Activision Blizzard. The company is doubling down on exclusive titles as well as betting on TV adaptations of its games to convince more people to try PlayStation games. "We will attack in the year-end sales season with both content and hardware, including peripherals," Nishino said.

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Hideaki Nishino, who is Senior Vice President of Platform Experience at Sony Interactive Entertainment, told Nikkei Asia during a recent interview that the PS5 is the superior gaming platform at the moment when compared to PC
Where in any interview is this said? I couldn't find it in that link, which just makes it sound like what's implied is BS clickbait.

Otherwise, as long as PC can emulate pretty much any game at any time, it will objectively be the better one when you put a decent PC setup against any PS5 besides cost (because they're subsidized).
 
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Where in any interview is this said? I couldn't find it in that link, which just makes it sound like what's implied is BS clickbait.

Otherwise, as long as PC can emulate pretty much any game at any time, it will objectively be the better one when you put a decent PC setup against any PS5 besides cost (because they're subsidized).
Don't forget that consoles basically use PC hardware now. The PS5's storage tech is pretty cool but is made mostly irrelevant by modern NVME SSDs
 
To be fair to Sony, they absolutely need their PlayStation platform to compete with not just Xbox, but also the PC. Because Xbox and Windows are both made by Microsoft, for the most part you see games on both of those platforms, not one or the other. Microsoft can use both platforms for different groups of people; it doesn't need the Xbox to be superior to the PC, or vice-versa. On the other hand, Sony has to make their product the superior (sounding) one to capture their target audience, and that includes convincing people that it's better than the PC.

Whether it's true or not probably depends more on the gamer and how they game then the platform itself.
 
Are there any PC gamers that use an APU?
Anyone that owns a steam deck or Asus ROG ally. When my 1070ti died I considered an APU before I bought my 6700XT but that was in the middle of the GPU shortage. The new zen4 apus seem close to an rx6600 so those might be worth considering. Problem with that is they aren't out yet.

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APU performance seems better than the 1050ti I have in my secondary rig and I find the performance on that acceptable in a pinch. I'm not saying it would be an enjoyable experience but you can still game at 1080p60 low. You can game but I wouldn't call it a pleasant experience.
 
He's not wrong in the sense that the PlayStation essentially levels the playing field by setting up an ecosystem where everyone gets to play the game on similar hardware thus creating a unified performance expectation. Meanwhile, in the PC world you might have a gamer running a game on a fully tricked out gaming system while the other player may be running it on a potato.
 
He's probably right if you are under 18 years old.
Frankly, this is the first time in my life that I will have said this and I've been a PC gamer since 1993. Consoles are fine for casual gamers.

Now, there is a very specific reason I say that. If all you want to do is "play games" then nVidia and AMD has made that financially unrealistic. The lines have been further blurred since modern consoles are now basically using PC hardware. The lines are blurred, nVidia has made it financially viable for AMD to over price their GPUs. Even with AMD being the "budget" option, their cards are still too expensive. PC gaming is stupid expensive right now. A mouse and keyboard will be bound to my heart for life but I no longer judge casual gamers for buying a console. The quality of the experience has sharnk and the cost has expanded. I won't recommend an Xbox(im a linux gamer), but if someone doesn't want to buy a PC and still wants to game I have no problem recommending a Sony play station as a budget option.
 
I love how Sony is riding the wave about how their console is selling so well now.

No, sh!t, Sony. For years people couldn't find them and you couldn't produce them so they all went after Xbox S/X or even the Switch. Now that you're not having "inventory shortages" and actually getting product on the shelf, those that already have the aforementioned consoles or even upgraded their PC in the past few years, they can now actually buy one of your consoles.

All Sony is doing right now is playing catch up, but if they spin the PR stuff just right (as they are doing now) it looks like they are dominating the console sales market. Good for you, Sony, for having good sales now and having inventory.
 
Everyone talks about the price of the console only when it's released. But the console cannot be upgraded over time. PS4 came out 10 years ago and most of the new AAA games are still being made for it. Hogwarts Legacy, Assassin's Creed Mirage, Resident Evil 4, Star Wars Jedi: Survivor... The list goes on and on. The PS4 GPU is equivalent to an Nvidia GTX 750 Ti. You can't buy that slow GPU anymore. Even the RTX 3050 has 370% of its performance. I tried to build a PS5 competitor in PCPartPicker and ended up with $550 and an RX 6700 GPU - the closest to PS5 specs. And arguments about much better optimization for consoles are mostly not true either. Consoles rely heavily on upscaling, dynamic resolution, low settings and low FPS. For example PS5 Alan Wake 2 Performance Mode rely on low settings, 847p internal resolution upscaled to 1440p and 60FPS cap. An RX 6700 can archive that easely.
 
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At 80€ per game while half the price on pc ... or free if you want ( all can be free if you want ... yaaarrr ) ...

pc cost "more" at the purchase but after this... nothing, a console may be cheaper at the purchase , but then add the cost of games , peripherals , and subscription to play online .... at the end of the day , your PC is cheaper to run :p I mean a "normal pc" something like a 5800x3d + 7800xt combo , a build you can game really really good on, while not going into something "r3tarded" ( 14900 + 4090 per example )
 
If Sony said this 5 years ago, I would have disagreed. But looking at the situation now, you can own a PC rocking a RTX 4090 and still can’t play new games at good frame rates without resorting to up scaling and frame generation. Just the cost of a mid range GPU will allow you to buy a console with some change left. Add the remaining components of a PC in the cost, it’s going to cost significantly more. I’ve ditched PC gaming and gone back to console gaming primarily. Mostly playing indie titles on PC since I own them on Steam. In a nutshell, games have become insanely demanding and cost of decent hardware just makes PC gaming unpalatable to me now.
 
I can't play GTA on a PC. I have both PC and PS5. But for ease everything is good on the controller. Driving with a keyboard is just lame.
But then you have to switch to keyboard and mouse for the shooting or you have less precision than Mr griefer.

But this is my only issue. Some games are just couch console games.
PC for gfx and mods.

Each to their own. But the way prices vs wages go in the UK I don't care enough to continue paying for stuff that's mostly regurgitated crap from yesteryear.
 
The best things of pc are cost of ownership (cheap upgrades), modding communities, access to endless indie games which sometimes come out surprisingly fresh and good.
The modding communities is what my brother really likes about PC gaming. I hosted a Valheim server for a while for us to play on and after we played the vanilla version for a while he went on a mod hunt and absolutely loved some of the mods out there. So I added them to the server and we played with them for a good while, adding and removing more mods as we went a long.

He's been looking at 7D2D recently, too. He's got some modded versions he wants us to play.
 
Don't forget that consoles basically use PC hardware now. The PS5's storage tech is pretty cool but is made mostly irrelevant by modern NVME SSDs

Well, that's just demonstrably false. In order to use the storage tech in the first place you have to have an NVME SSD and the faster the SSD, the better the tech works.

That said, Windows already has the same tech, and they call it Direct Storage. The PC is a superior experience. For just a hair more than a PS5, you can build a PC that performs drastically better and it is upgradeable forever, basically. My last PC lasted me 8 years with zero upgrades and it performed better than a PS5.
 
I can't play GTA on a PC. I have both PC and PS5. But for ease everything is good on the controller. Driving with a keyboard is just lame.
But then you have to switch to keyboard and mouse for the shooting or you have less precision than Mr griefer.

But this is my only issue. Some games are just couch console games.
PC for gfx and mods.

Each to their own. But the way prices vs wages go in the UK I don't care enough to continue paying for stuff that's mostly regurgitated crap from yesteryear.
Well, surely you know that you can use a controller for PC gaming. :) I never use a kb/m (just don't like it) and have had no issues with driving or aiming. Full disclosure, I exclusively play campaigns; no multiplayer stuff for me. So maybe that means the superior precision of a mouse isn't critical for my use.

I use the Xbox Elite 2 controller. Expensive, but the perfect weight, long battery life, huge customization and four(!) paddles on the back are awesome. Still going strong after nearly four years and countless hours of use!
 
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I can't play GTA on a PC. I have both PC and PS5. But for ease everything is good on the controller. Driving with a keyboard is just lame.
But then you have to switch to keyboard and mouse for the shooting or you have less precision than Mr griefer.

But this is my only issue. Some games are just couch console games.
PC for gfx and mods.

Each to their own. But the way prices vs wages go in the UK I don't care enough to continue paying for stuff that's mostly regurgitated crap from yesteryear.
you know you can use any type of controller on a pc ... even the ps5 one you already have...
 
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