Sony to share additional PlayStation 5 details in a livestream on Wednesday

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Forward-looking: Next-gen consoles from Sony and Microsoft are expected to launch during the 2020 holiday season. With the coronavirus impacting manufacturing efforts in China and disrupting daily life around the globe, it is entirely possible that one or both of these new systems get pushed back into 2021.

Microsoft earlier this week revealed detailed information about its upcoming Xbox Series X console due to tentatively launch later this year. Now, it’s Sony’s turn.

The Japanese tech giant on Tuesday announced via Twitter just moments ago that its lead PlayStation 5 architect Mark Cerny will provide a “deep dive” into the console’s system architecture via livestream on Wednesday. It all goes down starting at 9 a.m. Pacific and you can watch over on the official PlayStation blog.

Unlike Microsoft, Sony has been mostly mum regarding details of its next-gen console. Aside from mentioning 4K and ray tracing support, cross-generational play and 120Hz support, we really don’t know much of anything about the PS5. Images of dev kits have leaked but it is unclear if they are representative of the final product expected to ship this holiday season.

Rumors have persisted that Sony’s system could hit the market with an MSRP of $470 or more. If true, and if Microsoft can significantly undercut that with its Xbox Series X, Sony could find itself between a rock and a hard place.

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Looking at Microsoft's machine the chances of it coming it at under $500 seem slim, without a massive subsidy. Microsoft pushed the limits with Xbox One X in 2017. It cost $499. They made no money on it. They stated this exactly.

Now in addition to pushing the silicon limits they are shoving a 1TB SSD in there, adding more memory that is more expensive per GB, beefing up the PSU significantly, even heavier duty cooling to cope and finally upping complexity of manufacturing. Dual mainboards with a custom PCIe 4 bus, CNC machined aluminium core.

If they price it under $500 they will be taking a huge loss on each machine. It would be bold and costly to them. I wouldn't want to take that risk. Not with a developing pandemic that is on the verge of creating another recession. Lost your job? Here, buy our new $550 console!

At the risk of aging this post in the space of 24 hours I think Sony's machine won't be quite as powerful as Xbox Series X, but it'll be close enough it just won't matter. Not when consoles are now capable of leveraging machine learning for upscaling image quality. Dynamically adjusting shading rates, quality settings, resolutions on the fly without massively noticeable loss of quality.

If Sony can deliver something within 10-15 percent or so all round and 50 bucks cheaper it'll do the job for them.
 
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SONY is better at pricing than Microsoft has been, and my guess is that they are scrambling to get a production PS5 ready for prime time.

Thing is, there's no telling how Covid-19 is going to effect them at each and every stage.

What I do know is Sony's fanbase is loyal and their IP is solid enough to ensure people will stick around for whatever they release.
 
Looking at Microsoft's machine the chances of it coming it at under $500 seem slim, without a massive subsidy. Microsoft pushed the limits with Xbox One X in 2017. It cost $499. They made no money on it. They stated this exactly.

Now in addition to pushing the silicon limits they are shoving a 1TB SSD in there, adding more memory that is more expensive per GB, beefing up the PSU significantly, even heavier duty cooling to cope and finally upping complexity of manufacturing. Dual mainboards with a custom PCIe 4 bus, CNC machined aluminium core.

If they price it under $500 they will be taking a huge loss on each machine. It would be bold and costly to them. I wouldn't want to take that risk. Not with a developing pandemic that is on the verge of creating another recession. Lost your job? Here, buy our new $550 console!

At the risk of aging this post in the space of 24 hours I think Sony's machine won't be quite as powerful as Xbox Series X, but it'll be close enough it just won't matter. Not when consoles are now capable of leveraging machine learning for upscaling image quality. Dynamically adjusting shading rates, quality settings, resolutions on the fly without massively noticeable loss of quality.

If Sony can deliver something within 10-15 percent or so all round and 50 bucks cheaper it'll do the job for them.

I think Microsoft's success (from a earnings perspective) with the XBOX One family of devices will make them 100% content with making $0 from XBOX Series X sales. The XBOX division is thriving from XBOX Live, GamesPass, Digital Sales, etc. They failed with console hardware sales, but learned that console hardware sales aren't as important as it once was in order to create a profitable gaming ecosystem. I see them sticking with the $499 price point, $549 at most.
 
I doubt we'll see higher prices than we've seen in the past. The original 60GB PS3 had a BOM of $840. Two years later it was halved. PS5 is like $450. Losing money on the console is not a major concern for either side. It wasn't then, and it shouldn't be one now.

Sony also doesn't need to have the faster SoC. It just has to have the games and enough performance and features to satisfy gamers. They barely even have to try. Both consoles struggled to hold 1080p/60fps, and Sony still outsold XBOX 2 to 1.

My last console was the original XBOX, but I'm very excited to see if we can finally have a solid 60fps on a console in 2020.
 
While the virus is far from over, China has established a downward curve and could resume much of it's mfg. operations in the next 30-60 days. While this won't resolve ALL backlogs, it will get them back on the path to recovery and possibly soon enough to recover in time for the holiday season. Doubtful they can completely fill all orders but as compared to a month ago, it's looking better and better, they simply need to keep these measures as the TOP priority. Of course the other side of the coin is how many American's are going to be out of work so long that this Christmas will be bleak.

The concept of heat or cold killing the virus appear to have been eliminated so we have to hope that recent claims of a 1st treatment come through and that they can find existing medicine's that can do duel purpose and won't need to go through that 18 month trial & certification that exists ...
 
CPU 100 $
GPU 200 $
SSD 50 $
RAM 30 $
MOTHERBOARD 40 $
OPTIC 30 $
CASE & cooling 50 $

I think 500 $ is possible for upcoming consoles
CPU and APU are actually a single unit (APU). I‘d say MS probably gets it for production cost plus a small fee to AMD.

That said, I agree that price wise it should be doable. What we pay retail for CPU and other components probably gives many a wrong idea what Sony‘s and Microsoft‘s actual cost is.
 
$450-500 for the entry level console, $600-650 for the full performance console.

Multiple tiers are the new norm for consoles, I will not be surprised to see that on launch day.

The entry level device will be good for 1080p 120Hz, possibly with no optical drive. Where as the full price device will be the 4k model, I highly doubt it will do more than 60Hz however.

That would cover the claims of both 120Hz gaming and 4k.
 
Sony must have learnt a lesson when releasing PS3 an year later than 360 at $600 price point.

Microsoft must have learnt a lesson rushing 360 out with RROD issues.
 
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