Tesla sales crash across Europe with drops of up to 90%

Plutoisaplanet said:
Reporting localized sales swings in small markets in isolated months is a terrible way to get an accurate picture of what's happening across Europe, but it sure does make for great doom and gloom headlines. One of the notable trends that's happening in Europe is that Tesla's sales in Norway has been booming throughout the entire year. You wouldn't know that from reading Rob's articles though. He reports that Tesla sales are down in Norway are down by 50%.

Model Y sales in Norway:
September (up 96%): https://www.bilstatistik.dk/nyheder/det-nordiske-bilsalg-september-2025/
August (up 17%): https://www.bilstatistik.dk/nyheder/det-nordiske-bilsalg-august-2025/
July (up 355%): https://www.bilstatistik.dk/nyheder/det-nordiske-bilsalg-juli-2025/
June (up 115%): https://www.bilstatistik.dk/nyheder/det-nordiske-bilsalg-juni-2025/
May (up 240%): https://www.bilstatistik.dk/nyheder/det-nordiske-bilsalg-maj-2025/
April (up 24%): https://www.bilstatistik.dk/nyheder/det-nordiske-bilsalg-april-2025/
March (up 13.7%): https://www.bilstatistik.dk/nyheder/det-nordiske-bilsalg-marts-2025/
February (up 6.75%): https://www.bilstatistik.dk/nyheder/det-nordiske-bilsalg-februar-2025/
January (up 3.86%): https://www.bilstatistik.dk/nyheder/det-nordiske-bilsalg-januar-2025/

Furthermore, sales in many countries often shift across the quarter. Yet Rob has focused on monthly sales all year long:
February - https://www.techspot.com/news/107047-tesla-sales-rise-uk-despite-global-backlash-against.html
April - https://www.techspot.com/news/108069-tesla-sales-europe-plunge-50-amid-backlash-over.html
August - https://www.techspot.com/news/109375-tesla-us-ev-share-drops-eight-year-low.html
October - https://www.techspot.com/news/110124-tesla-sales-crash-across-europe-drops-up-90.html (this article)

Spain is a great example of sales swinging. It's a small market and it's on the edge of the continent. So the timing of inventory arriving can vastly shift sales from one month to the next. Here are the sales in Spain each month of the year so far:
October (393 vehicles, down 31%) https://www.reuters.com/business/au...ain-some-european-markets-october-2025-11-03/
September (2,992 vehicles, up 3.4%) https://www.reuters.com/business/re...34-september-other-ev-sales-surge-2025-10-01/
August (1,435 vehicles, up 161%) https://www.reuters.com/business/au...pean-markets-extends-eighth-month-2025-09-01/
July (702 vehicles, up 27%) https://www.reuters.com/business/au...y-other-ev-sales-more-than-double-2025-08-01/
June (2,632 vehicles, up 61%): https://www.reuters.com/business/retail-consumer/new-tesla-sales-spain-rise-61-june-2025-07-01/
May (794 vehicles, down 29%): https://www.reuters.com/business/re...-29-may-while-other-ev-sales-soar-2025-06-02/
April (571 vehicles, down 36%): https://www.reuters.com/business/au...p-36-april-despite-ev-sales-surge-2025-05-05/
March (1,983 vehicles, up 34%): https://www.reuters.com/business/au...ars-rise-march-fall-first-quarter-2025-04-01/
February (909 vehicles, down 11%): https://electrek.co/2025/03/05/tesla-tsla-sales-crash-continues-in-europe-with-germany-down-70/
January (269 vehicles, down 75%): https://electrek.co/2025/02/03/tesl...europe-but-its-not-just-because-of-elon-musk/

YTD, Tesla sales are up 7-8% in Spain, but Rob reports a sales drop of 180 vehicles in Spain as evidence that Tesla sales are "crashing" lol. The truth of the matter is that sales in Spain are doing the opposite, but they are a great example of volatility. If a writer was biased toward Tesla, they could also use Spain as an example of Tesla growing in August, citing sales more than doubling. Rob should stick to longer term trends if he wants to be accurate, but the numbers are too juicy for him to pass up. I'm more interested in reading about downward trends than his isolated data points.
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:rolleyes: Nothing about this is Rob, and no matter how you spin it, nothing will make it about Rob.
https://www.benzinga.com/markets/eu...es-how-the-company-performed-in-9-key-markets
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/mar...rope-with-89-sales-drop-in-sweden/ar-AA1PJD5j
https://www.reuters.com/business/au...ain-some-european-markets-october-2025-11-03/
https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2025/1103/1541886-tesla-european-sales/
Had enough yet??
NO??
https://electrek.co/2025/11/03/tesla-tsla-keeps-getting-battered-in-europes-ev-market/
https://www.inkl.com/news/tesla-see...-s-how-the-company-performed-in-9-key-markets
https://money.usnews.com/investing/...nge-again-in-some-european-markets-in-october
I think its You, not Rob.
 
trparky said:
Whenever I see a Tesla driving around where I live, I ask out loud to no one in particular "Did you buy that before or after Elon went crazy?"
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Perfect! 🤣 I once saw someone driving a Tesla that had a bumper sticker that read something like "I bought this before Elon went crazy".
 
mountains said:
It is shocking that this brand has the WORST digital privacy of any other automobile, and they are covered with cameras. And this is in a digital privacy market that has zero regulation, hence most new vehicles have terrible privacy.

You want people to buy it? Give us guaranteed control over our data, now and in the future!
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Not even that could get me to buy a Tesla.
 
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m4a4 said:
That was my initial reaction; the article seemed like it cherry-picked numbers out of context to spin click-bait. A growing trend here.

It is nice to see you were thorough in your added context. They should hire you as an editor lol
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:rolleyes: Right! TS - Hire @Plutoisaplanet - Especially since his post relies mainly on one source! 🤣
 
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Food prices between America and Europe are about the same given exchange rates, etc. You can't say that about electricity or gas, which is like double the price compared to America.
 
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wiyosaya said:
:rolleyes: Right! TS - Hire @Plutoisaplanet - Especially since his post relies mainly on one source! 🤣
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I posted 23 different links covering a wide array of data lmfao. And I was responding directly to the article that falsely used 2/4 markets as examples of Tesla sales crashing. The other two markets are valid examples of sales being down in those countries (again, examples of single data points).
wiyosaya said:
:rolleyes: Nothing about this is Rob, and no matter how you spin it, nothing will make it about Rob.
https://www.benzinga.com/markets/eu...es-how-the-company-performed-in-9-key-markets
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/mar...rope-with-89-sales-drop-in-sweden/ar-AA1PJD5j
https://www.reuters.com/business/au...ain-some-european-markets-october-2025-11-03/
https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2025/1103/1541886-tesla-european-sales/
Had enough yet??
NO??
https://electrek.co/2025/11/03/tesla-tsla-keeps-getting-battered-in-europes-ev-market/
https://www.inkl.com/news/tesla-see...-s-how-the-company-performed-in-9-key-markets
https://money.usnews.com/investing/...nge-again-in-some-european-markets-in-october
I think its You, not Rob.
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Your reading comprehension fails here. My criticism is that Rob focuses reporting on isolated data points that don't represent the bigger picture in any way. I'm not a regular reader of these other sites, but I bet that they post reports basically every month so their readers get an accurate picture of reality. They also caveat their own reports with language like "some European markets" and post the actual sales of that month.

My problem is with BIASED news, not bad news. If you can't tell the difference between the two, then maybe you should take a class on it. Emphasizing October sales numbers and reporting nothing on September sales numbers (which Rob even admits were up) is a classic example of cherry-picking. It's especially notable given that Tesla's sales in the first month of a quarter are often a fraction of the number in the final month of a quarter as you can see by the Spain numbers I posted for ALL of 2025.

Furthermore, other writers at TechSpot don't follow the same pattern. Here are eight examples of neutral coverage of Tesla written by others here:

I briefly looked through all of Rob's articles written on Tesla this year, and this was the only one I could find that had neutral coverage (out of dozens): https://www.techspot.com/news/108410-tesla-robotaxis-launch-austin-420-invite-only-service.html
 
Plutoisaplanet said:
You’re the one making the claim and you can’t back it up with evidence? 😂 You’d think if it’s so obviously true that you’d have loads of examples that convinced you it was so.

Unless you provide evidence, repeating the idea that Elon Musk is a racist nazi is simply propaganda. The goal is to just repeat the claim over and over to convince others that the lie is reality.
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scavengerspc said:
Maybe this will help change your mind? :cool:

Up to 8 and counting.
electrek.co

Tesla recalls 6,197 Cybertrucks, about 10% of all sold, for using the wrong glue

Tesla's Cybertruck off-road light bar may have used the wrong adhesive, so Tesla will replace it. Recent recalls show us how poor sales are.
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I am thinking we are not finished seeing things fall off.
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Absolutely. I'll rush right out and buy one along with a case of glue for when it falls apart. 🤣

Using Glue to keep parts on?? WTF?? I'm astonished, and still we have comments that attempt to convince others that the quality of Tesla vehicles is superb! 🤣

I suppose if you are used to getting plastic car model kits, then the construction of real Teslas is beyond compare, but for a highly competitive automotive market? It's no wonder that I've heard comments that vehicles produced by other companies make Teslas look like crap. I bet even my $40K Prius Prime makes a Tesla look like crap for fit and finish.

And given there is far more competition in the EV market, despite the EV market slowdown, I think it would be a great idea for Tesla to significantly up their quality game. However, they seem to be far too concerned, IMO, about paying fElon $1 trillion dollars - as if they could ship fElon with every vehicle and that would improve the quality of Teslas. :rolleyes:
 
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Plutoisaplanet said:
I posted 23 different links covering a wide array of data lmfao. And I was responding directly to the article that falsely used 2/4 markets as examples of Tesla sales crashing. The other two markets are valid examples of sales being down in those countries (again, examples of single data points).
Your reading comprehension fails here. My criticism is that Rob focuses reporting on isolated data points that don't represent the bigger picture in any way. I'm not a regular reader of these other sites, but I bet that they post reports basically every month so their readers get an accurate picture of reality. They also caveat their own reports with language like "some European markets" and post the actual sales of that month.

My problem is with BIASED news, not bad news. If you can't tell the difference between the two, then maybe you should take a class on it. Emphasizing October sales numbers and reporting nothing on September sales numbers (which Rob even admits were up) is a classic example of cherry-picking. It's especially notable given that Tesla's sales in the first month of a quarter are often a fraction of the number in the final month of a quarter as you can see by the Spain numbers I posted for ALL of 2025.

Furthermore, other writers at TechSpot don't follow the same pattern. Here are eight examples of neutral coverage of Tesla written by others here:

I briefly looked through all of Rob's articles written on Tesla this year, and this was the only one I could find that had neutral coverage (out of dozens): https://www.techspot.com/news/108410-tesla-robotaxis-launch-austin-420-invite-only-service.html
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I think you, once again, have missed the point. The point of my post, assuming I have to explain it to you, was that Rob was not the only one in the world that published a similar article.

Perhaps its your own BIAS in favor of Tesla that causes you to think that others are biased?

IMO, you are being hypocritical. Your bias definitely shows from your past comments such as when articles appear, from multiple sources again, that state that the trial of RoboTaxis are experiencing a much higher rate of accidents than similar vehicles from competing companies, you rush in and state that fElon, Tesla, and RoboTaxis are going to dominate the market. Talk about ignoring evidence to the contrary.

I don't pretend, in any of my posts, to NOT have an Anti-fElon/Tesla bias. Not only will I not buy a Tesla and then pretend a hunk of junk is the greatest thing since sliced bread, I will not spend my money with any company that is lead by a pretend dictator piece of excrement who would, if it were possible in the US, sue anyone who publicly complains about the quality of Teslas for defamation like fElon/Tesla does in China. https://apnews.com/article/tesla-china-musk-investigation-takeaways-422af6d3c6e7cc88173d12891e8c0a9a
www.cbsnews.com

Tesla has sued customers and journalists in China — and won most times, review finds

Tesla has sued its own customers and journalists in China for defamation – and won just about every time. Elon Musk's company has pioneered an aggressive legal strategy there.
www.cbsnews.com www.cbsnews.com
techcrunch.com

A woman in China sued Tesla after complaining of faulty brakes — now she's paying Tesla $23K | TechCrunch

A report claims that Tesla has sued "at least" six car owners in China over the past four years after complaining about mechanical issues.
techcrunch.com techcrunch.com
www.newsbytesapp.com

Crash victim in China forced to pay $23,000 to Tesla

Tesla successfully sued a Chinese woman for over $23,000 after she claimed a brake failure in her Model 3 caused a crash injuring her parents.
www.newsbytesapp.com www.newsbytesapp.com

This crap will come back on fElon/Tesla. I'm still betting that Tesla will be this century's Edsel, and I, honestly, will feel sorry for fElon when it happens.

Certainly, what you do with your money is your business, however, you are never going to convince anyone that faces the reality of, for instance, RoboTaxis crashing at a much higher rate than the competition, that RoboTaxis are going to dominate the market. IMO, its more like they will dominate the Junk Yard.
 
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wiyosaya said:
I think you, once again, have missed the point. The point of my post, assuming I have to explain it to you, was that Rob was not the only one in the world that published a similar article.

Perhaps its your own BIAS in favor of Tesla that causes you to think that others are biased?
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And of course, you defend your post instead of again addressing what YOU replied to: Rob is biased. I brought up actual evidence of it, you repeated your claim which doesn't even address proof of bias. Maybe I need to repeat this to you: bad news is not the same thing as biased news. Bad news for Tesla is fine by me, but bad reporting is a different story. For instance, I'm not a reader of Teslarati because they're extremely biased: https://www.teslarati.com/
wiyosaya said:
IMO, you are being hypocritical. Your bias definitely shows from your past comments such as when articles appear, from multiple sources again, that state that the trial of RoboTaxis are experiencing a much higher rate of accidents than similar vehicles from competing companies, you rush in and state that fElon, Tesla, and RoboTaxis are going to dominate the market. Talk about ignoring evidence to the contrary.
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You just made that sh!t up. You'll have to cite an actual comment I said instead of a hypothetical one before you call me hypocritical. If I ever talked about Tesla's success in the future, it would've been a hypothetical and based on the basic law of supply and demand. The statement would hold true of Tesla's competitors too, and therefore be neutral.
 
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