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captaincranky

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and maaybe Afghanistan? Why should China? They didn't even do anything to create the problem. Germany took over a million refugees. While the Us has taken none by comparison.
Well, you've trying to pass the Chinese off a "a humanitarian nation". Taking immigrants would show character as a willingness to join the world community in a more sincere way.. Or is it that China can't feed the 3 billion people they already have? According to you,China is a forward a technologically advanced country. And according to the rest of the world, it's a militaristic Communist sh!t hole. They have a few places where they can take tourists, (one the primary tourist attractions is still the formerly British Hong Kong), and the rest of the country's people are slogging around in rice paddies, or working for $2.00 a day, "to the greater glory of the cultural revolution". Even Foxconn isn't ruthless or stupid enough to keep its factories on mainland China, Preferring instead, to stay on the free Republic of Taiwan.

I don't give a flying snot what you think of me, or the US. What is truly annoying is you're propaganda soaked delusional state of the world, skewed totally toward what you want to believe. Or what you think will get the biggest rise when you post your doggerel

Take for example, your statement, "the US is still a country of immigrants", while these so called British "immigrants" have been here for nigh on 500 years. The wannbe US immigrants, are pouring out of the middle east, and there's virtually no way of telling the wolves from "the sheep" Russia and Syria need to clean up their own f***ing mess, and that includes the humanitarian crisis they've created. If their damned government was any good to begin with, you wouldn't have ISIS crawling all over the place. And That same government, needs to clean up after itself, now that it has somehow managed to remain in power.

BTW, the US didn't invade Syria looking for "weapons of mass destruction", or build a pipeline there.

So how do you come up with the conclusion, that even if we did get rid of Saddam Hussein, that's what caused a "holy war" between Suni and shia Muslims? Like IO said, people in the region don't seem to be able to live peacefully without being under the thumb of one iron fisted sociopath or another.

And BTW, the Russians were bogged down 9in Afghanistan, most likely before tyou were born. So, run your yap about their " illegal invasions" why don't cha?

And yes, the US cleaned up its own mess after our civil war. None of the places in the middle east, lifted so much as a finger a finger to take any refugees, or clean up the destruction. I can't possibly imagine why anyone from over there would feel themselves entitled to our help and hospitality now.

Unless, it's exactly the way I told you it worked before. The world does very little but denigrate and hate the US, while they're busy begging at our borders to be let in.
 
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captaincranky

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Another failure by republicans

911 attackers were mostly from saudi arabia

Bin laden was killed in pakistan

Neither country made this anti terrorist list smh

Just like there were no WMDs in iraq, but we did build a pipeline and managed to create isis there....
George W. Bush started that ball rolling. If that jacka** mental defective would have been born to the Kennedy family, Rose would have locked him in an attic, and then made him the poster boy for her campaign against mental retardation. He certainly wouldn't have been thrust on our country as a president.

I haven't the vaguest idea where Jeb Bush summoned the hubris or the set of ballz it took to throw his hat in the ring as a candidate for president. After we endured 8 years of "Wubba", holy sh!t was that a paranoid delusion of grandeur.

Just out of curiosity , would you be foolish enough to get into it with Packistan?I mean sure, we have way more nuclear weapons than they do, and we would definitely win. But you'd be hating on us even more for the fallout the nuclear exchange would create.
 
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Kunming

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Well, you've trying to pass the Chinese off a "a humanitarian nation". Taking immigrants would show character as a willingness to join the world community in a more sincere way.. Or is it that China can't feed the 3 billion people they already have? According to you,China is a forward a technologically advanced country. And according to the rest of the world, it's a militaristic Communist sh!t hole. They have a few places where they can take tourists, (one the primary tourist attractions is still the formerly British Hong Kong), and the rest of the country's people are slogging around in rice paddies, or working for $2.00 a day, "to the greater glory of the cultural revolution. Even Foxconn isn't ruthless or stupid enough to keep its factories on mainland China, Preferring instead, to stay on the free Republic of Taiwan.

I don't give a flying snot what you think of me, or the US. What is truly annoying is you're propaganda soaked delusional state of the world, skewed totally toward what you want to believe. Or what you think will get the biggest rise when you post your doggerel

Take for example, your statement, "the US is still a country of immigrants", while these so called British "immigrants" have been here for nigh on 500 years. The wannbe US immigrants, are pouring out of the middle east, and there's virtually no way of telling the wolves from "the sheep" Russia and Syria need to clean up their own f***ing mess, and that includes the humanitarian crisis they've created. If their damned government was any good to begin with, you wouldn't have ISIS crawling all over the place. And That same government, needs to clean up after itself, now that it has somehow managed to remain in power.

BTE, the US didn't invade Syria looking for "weapons of mass destruction", or build a pipeline.

So how do you come up with the conclusion, that even if we did get rid of Saddam Hussein, that's what caused a "holy war" between Suni and shia Muslims? Like IO said, people in the region don't seem to be able to live peacefully without being under the thumb of one iron fisted sociopath or another.

And BTW, the Russians were bogged down 9in Afghanistan, most likely before tyou were born. So, run your yap about their " illegal invasions" why don't cha?

And yes, the US cleaned up its own mess after our civil war. None of the places in the middle east, lifted so much as a finger a finger to take any refugees, or clean up the destruction. I can't possibly imagine why anyone from over there would feel themselves entitled to our help and hospitality now.

Unless, it's exactly the way I told you it worked before. The world does very little but denigrate and hate the US, while they're busy begging at our borders to be let in.
- It's certainly a more humanitarian nation than it gets credit for.

- It's already in the world community. Still no reason to take refugees from a US-made problem.

- China is quite advanced in its Tier 1 cities. Only ignorant people think it's Communist. It's not.

- You've got it so wrong lmao. Most of the country is fine. You still lynching black people in the usa? ;) lol.

- You say my factual stuff is propaganda, when you just called China a Communist shithole. Loool.

- I don't think I stated the us was a country of immigrants. What else are you wrong about?

- So Russia/Syria need to clean up their own mess, but you want others to clean up yours by taking refugees?

- Funny you mention ISIS. Since your government created them. So that has nothing to do with Syria/Russia. People in the region can't live peacefully, because of their resources and strategic position make them constant targets of big power games by nations like the US. Which you then ignore, thanks to Fox News or something. The Sunni/Shia split was manufactured.

- Yea the Russians were in Afghanistan. So what your government did was train the Taliban/Mujahedeen how to shoot down Russian helicopters. Which now comes back to haunt and kill your own Spec Ops soldiers lol.

- You don't know a thing about the Middle East. Your government routinely undermines democracy wherever it goes. Look to your own backyard in South america for more examples of your genocidal behaviour that you don't know about.
 

captaincranky

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You should have left your last sentence out, after calling someone Else's comment childish.
Puiu should leave most of his comments out. Whenm he's not acting as a shill for M$, or spouting a bunch of trash taslk about how "Romania is a real established democracy, he's distoting fact to justifyhis mostly hatred of the US. Romania huh? I thought that place wasn't a whole hell of a lot more than an itinerant "band of gypsies" ;)

I think I'll start hating that country, just so I can hear myself talk in threads I erstwhile claim shouldn't be here.
 

captaincranky

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- It's already in the world community. Still no reason to take refugees from a US-made problem.
"Syria"', isn't a US created problem. In fact,we refused to arm the rebels, but offered humanitarian aid instead. Quit making sh!t up as you go along/

We didn't give them weaponry,. Isis apparently did. So now, are you going to claim that we caused the problem by not arming the Syrian rebels, or by NOT invading Syria. I wouldn't surprise me, every other bunch of crap which comes out of your mouth is to your convenience, without truth being an obstacle

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- China is quite advanced in its Tier 1 cities. EDIT (So is most likely Nigeria, for that matter) Only ignorant people think it's Communist. It's not.
Oh no, it's not Communist. That's why they just locked down their internet, to preserve democracy.

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- You've got it so wrong lmao. Most of the country is fine. You still lynching black people in the usa? ;) lol.
Why don't cha come to the US in black face and find out for yourself? Oh wait, we have a travel ban.Never mind..:D
 

Kunming

TS Maniac
"Syria"', isn't a US created problem. In fact,we refused to arm the rebels, but offered humanitarian aid instead. Quit making sh!t up as you go along/

We didn't give them weaponry,. Isis apparently did. So now, are you going to claim that we caused the problem by not arming the Syrian rebels, or by NOT invading Syria. I wouldn't surprise me, every other bunch of crap which comes out of your mouth is to your convenience, without truth being an obstacle

- Oh no, it's not Communist. That's why they just locked down their internet, to preserve democracy.

- Why don't cha come to the US in black face and find out for yourself? Oh wait, we have a travel ban.Never mind..:D
Sure Syria is. You wrecked Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya, then went on to "help" Syria. That's what you guys do. You arm the "rebels" with weapons. Then later on, the "rebels" magically become "insurgents", before morphing into "Terrorists" that CNN can report on. It's quite a process. And if ISIS gave them the weapons, there's your proof isn't it? Since you created and armed ISIS. You should check your language - I know it hurts to be told all your indoctrination is false. Let's dispel another myth while we're here: america isn't humanitys greatest hope either, in case you were wondering ;)

It's not Communist and it's not Democratic. I know it's hard for you when the world isn't black and white. They have their reasons for locking down their internet - it's also only to foreign sites btw. Their internel net is quite vibrant. Just like you have a need to lock up world-record levels of people for no reason; at least all the ones who don't get killed by the cops.

Wanna bet 5$ that Iran is the next target of US terrorism? :)
 

wiyosaya

TS Evangelist
I get you are trying to maintain indifference, but it was the G. W. Bush administration that fabricated evidence of WMD in Iraq that then lead to the illegal destruction of Saddam Hussein's regime. W, and others from his administration, are considered war criminals in some nations and would be arrested and charged with war crimes if they were to set foot in those nations.

W's administration did a very effective job of pulling the wool over the eyes of many, many people. If W's administration had not done this, the world would definitely be in a different place. Clinton did support this war, but I don't see that it is entirely her responsibility. We should expect that presidents in the US will be honorable people, and there are times when they have sorely let us down. This was one of those times when the US was deceived by an administration with an agenda. The nation was also crazed at that point having been targeted by terrorists. This is no excuse for what happened; however, I do think Obama should have prosecuted W and **** Chaney for treason. Had he, though, W and Cheney would have lied their asses off just like they did when they convinced the world that Iraq had WMD. This is one story where the US media and congressional investigations got to the truth, but there were no consequences to pay. Thus, the US is where it is now, and liars are emboldened to lie to the population. I think that saying from Star Trek the Original Series is applicable:

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.
If you judge presidents by the Nuremburg trial standards that the Nazis had to undergo after WW2, then all US presidents are war criminals by those standards - including Obama. It's not a particular administration. It's this toxic mindset that it's okay to invade other countries, interfere in their business and act like you own the place. 9/11 was bad, but it's only a tiny fraction of what "we do to them" if you get me.
I am not going to defend any recent president. Obama's failure to prosecute GW Bush and Cheney lead to the situation that we have in the country right now - as I see it. By failing to hold them accountable, he opened the door to the situation as it is, and it is my opinion he did it to preserve the kind of abuse of power of which you speak. He was no angel. Unfortunately, I also do not think that he committed the worst abuses of power of the most recent presidents. With the current one, I think that we will see some of the worst abuses of power ever, and my bet is that he will get impeached, and perhaps, he will be taken from office in a straight jacket.

Whether you agree with me or not on this, I see the world as broken. Something needs to change at a very basic level. I have no suggestions as to what that might be, but I think that if it does not happen soon, and the change is not for the greater good of all humanity, then tougher times for all lie ahead.

Some have commented here that terrorists have come from other nations than the one's targeted in Trump's order. AFAIK, no terrorists at all have come from any of the nations targeted. As I see it, this is another move by a do nothing president playing to those who voted for him, a piece of red meat for those who voted for him, as some have said. When people in power do something like that, I have to wonder what are they trying to hide. Unfortunately, I do not think we have seen the worst of him yet.
 

Ted Hyder

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Trump seems incapable of thinking things through; of carefully, meticulously weighing options; of maturely inhibiting childish impulses. These tech leaders repeatedly demonstrate these essential leadership traits. Trump cons people. These "guys" produce. My money is on the tech guys.
 
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Kunming

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I am not going to defend any recent president. Obama's failure to prosecute GW Bush and Cheney lead to the situation that we have in the country right now - as I see it. By failing to hold them accountable, he opened the door to the situation as it is, and it is my opinion he did it to preserve the kind of abuse of power of which you speak. He was no angel. Unfortunately, I also do not think that he committed the worst abuses of power of the most recent presidents. With the current one, I think that we will see some of the worst abuses of power ever, and my bet is that he will get impeached, and perhaps, he will be taken from office in a straight jacket.

Whether you agree with me or not on this, I see the world as broken. Something needs to change at a very basic level. I have no suggestions as to what that might be, but I think that if it does not happen soon, and the change is not for the greater good of all humanity, then tougher times for all lie ahead.

Some have commented here that terrorists have come from other nations than the one's targeted in Trump's order. AFAIK, no terrorists at all have come from any of the nations targeted. As I see it, this is another move by a do nothing president playing to those who voted for him, a piece of red meat for those who voted for him, as some have said. When people in power do something like that, I have to wonder what are they trying to hide. Unfortunately, I do not think we have seen the worst of him yet.
I agree with everything, except that I think Obama is worse, because his "gender politics" nonsense and all this faraway talk about "hope" is meaningless. Like in Prague when he spoke of nuclear weapons and getting rid of them. Then went on to be the highest spending president ever on nuclear weapons.

I think money has to come out of politics. That's one basic change. And more free independent journalism supported, so that the public can get wind of developments, so that they can say no. I agree about Trump getting impeached. At this rate, it's hard to imagine anything else.
 

captaincranky

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Trump seems incapable of thinking things through; of carefully, meticulously weighing options; of maturely inhibiting childish impulses. These tech leaders repeatedly demonstrate these essential leadership traits. Trump cons people. These "guys" produce. My money is on the tech guys.
As well it would be. After all, Trump won't be handing you any new shiny little tech toys to prolong your childhood. Always turn to the parent who gives you the most pleasure and the least responsibility, that's what I always say.

Just kick back, and let Elon Musk do all your thinking for you. While you're at it, light up a joint and fire up the Play Station, since you won't be getting out of you parents basement anytime soon, what with the current price and collateral outrageous monthly payment on one of those damned Teslas
 
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....[ ]...I think money has to come out of politics. That's one basic change. And more free independent journalism supported, so that the public can get wind of developments, so that they can say no. I agree about Trump getting impeached. At this rate, it's hard to imagine anything else.
It apparently has, but not in the manner you're fantasizing. I mean after all, Hillary Clinton out spent Trump almost 3 to 1, and still couldn't get her crooked, worthless, lard a** elected! :D

And by the way, only Congress gets to impeach a US president, not you and @wiyosaya
 

Mike89

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Don't know why Techspot had this burning desire to put this political crap in a Tech Blog. The same dudes will always be against any Republican (conservative) President. Bush went through it his whole 8 years. Obama got a pass and he did nothing for the tech industry or anything else for that matter except play golf and hold parties for the elite. He was our worst president bar none. Trump is not anti immigrant, he is anti terrorism. There is a plan you liberal Fcks whether you like it or not to put our Country back on track. Suck it up cry babies.
 
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Don't know why Techspot had this burning desire to put this political crap in a Tech Blog.
Well uh, there's these things called "clicks". Besides, it's hard to sustain actual tech topics. How long before even a cell phone junkie gets sick of arguing one phone versus another? I don't even own a phone with a screen or a camera, so why would I give a flying booger how that thread turns out?

Obama got a pass and he did nothing for the tech industry or anything else for that matter except play golf and hold parties for the elite. He was our worst president bar none.
Well certainly not to our inner city blacks. He gave them everything he possibly could.
Trump is not anti immigrant, he is anti terrorism. There is a plan you liberal Fcks whether you like it or not to put our Country back on track. Suck it up cry babies.
Dude, from my point of view, you're preaching to the choir. (y)
 

Edito

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If you judge presidents by the Nuremburg trial standards that the Nazis had to undergo after WW2, then all US presidents are war criminals by those standards - including Obama. It's not a particular administration. It's this toxic mindset that it's okay to invade other countries, interfere in their business and act like you own the place. 9/11 was bad, but it's only a tiny fraction of what "we do to them" if you get me.
You speak the truth and what you said is the core problem and let's be honest, the US government is at fault 110% here and it's a snow ball already hate has been generated and I don't know how this will end...
 
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You speak the truth and what you said is the core problem and let's be honest, the US government is at fault 110% here and it's a snow ball already hate has been generated and I don't know how this will end...
Maybe you and Kunming can get together and put a stop to whatever you imagine needs stopping. Just think, you could wear tights like make believe superheroes and call yourselves, "The SJW Twin Sisters".

Just please don't fly over my head on those days when you're feeling, "less than fresh". I'll likely know when you're coming anyway. The dogs in the neighborhood will start sniffing and barking....
 

Kunming

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Maybe you and Kunming can get together and put a stop to whatever you imagine needs stopping. Just think, you could wear tights like make believe superheroes and call yourselves, "The SJW Twin Sisters".

Just please don't fly over my head on those days when you're feeling, "less than fresh". I'll likely know when you're coming anyway. The dogs in the neighborhood will start sniffing and barking....
I'm all for not being so sensitive to the point where if you don't for example acknowledge someone who claims they aren't male or female, but a 3rd, 4th or 5th gender, that SJWs who act super outraged, get taken down a notch or when you mindlessly call someone a racist because they say something which is actually prejudiced, not racist.

But you've lost the plot entirely. This entire deal with mocking SJWs seems to have just turned into yet another excuse for not caring about the world or the very many very legitimate issues in it. Hence why people like yourself can get away with writing off the entire Middle-East as just one giant shithole full of people who will never stop fighting - even when it's your own american government who caused 75% of the major problems we see in the region today, which it only did, because the american public allowed it to and this got legitimised through biased conservative and liberal media reporting, who both had an axe to grind. Then when someone brings this up, they're SJWs, libtards or whatever else.

Even if they're just ordinary people with views about the world. Views which in this case, can in fact be backed up very well.

I hope that americans will soon take down their government, because to me, the tyranny is obvious at this point - and wasn't that what all those guns were meant to fight?
 

captaincranky

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@Kunming I have no idea what you're talking about in your last post. It just sounds like somebody rattled your itty bitty cage a bit too hard.

Back in the 90's Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait. Without reason, simply to the end of annexing the country. Hard to imagine I know, but I think Kuwait has more oil than Iraq. Anyway, the nations of the Middle East, along with NATO and the US, (who supplied most of the firepower). Either self owned, or with what' the US has equipped Saudi Arabia). So at that point, the US and the Middle had one solidified purpose, to drive the Iraqis back behind their own border.

After the allies destroyed the Iraqi Army, they surrendered. However, as they left Kuwait, they set damned near the entire country's oil fields ablaze.

I doubt that you know anything about articles of war, but even a ********* such as yourself should realize that wasn't the US's faulty, nor was it "illegal invasion, illegal aggression" or any other thing you can fabricate to blame or hate the US for.

And while I don't think it was the best idea, (simply from a monetary standpoint), the US went back into Iraq by itself, but at the end of the day, that piece of sh!t Hussein got the killing he so justifiably deserved. George W Bush went in, and finished the job for his father.

Now, why don't you go blabber about that with your new little friend.

What you think is a reason for Americans to "take down their government", (Trump's travel ban), I think amounts to our nation taking a good healthy dump, and flushing the toilet.

And as I told you once before, we didn't start any revolution in Syria, it was a copycat flop of some other successful revolutions in the same area.

So, the Syrian refugees can stay the f*** out of the US, and let the actors who created the refugee crisis in Syria, Isis, the Assad regime, and Vladimir Putin, clean up their own f***ing mess.

Now, what I just wrote is what's in the history books, and your bizarre opinions are diametrically in opposition to it. Go take anything else you have to say up with your new little friend. After all, he's as delusional as you are.

And let's put an end to the "Trump isn't qualified to be president argument", once and for all. A US, or any other president, is in large part, a figurehead. None of them have to be capable, "of running the country", they only have to be capable of finding good people who can.

And a little dose of parting irony. The US had a movie star as its president, Ronald Regan. He of course, was assumed to be, "unqualified to run the country". Guess what, he was the one who got the Berlin wall torn down. And that's way more than you'll ever accomplish, if you were to live three lifetimes. Now bugger off.
 
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Kunming

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@Kunming I have no idea what you're talking about in your last post. It just sounds like somebody rattled your itty bitty cage a bit too hard.

Back in the 90's Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait. Without reason, simply to the end of annexing the country. Hard to imagine I know, but I think Kuwait has more oil than Iraq. Anyway, the nations of the Middle East, along with NATO and the US, (who supplied most of the firepower). Either self owned, or with what' the US has equipped Saudi Arabia). So at that point, the US and the Middle had one solidified purpose, to drive the Iraqis back behind their own border.

After the allies destroyed the Iraqi Army, they surrendered. However, as they left Kuwait, they set damned near the entire country's oil fields ablaze.

I doubt that you know anything about articles of war, but even a ********* such as yourself should realize that wasn't the US's faulty, nor was it "illegal invasion, illegal aggression" or any other thing you can fabricate to blame or hate the US for.

And while I don't think it was the best idea, (simply from a monetary standpoint), the US went back into Iraq by itself, but at the end of the day, that piece of sh!t Hussein got the killing he so justifiably deserved. George W Bush went in, and finished the job for his father.

Now, why don't you go blabber about that with your new little friend.

What you think is a reason for Americans to "take down their government", (Trump's travel ban), I think amounts to our nation taking a good healthy dump, and flushing the toilet.

And as I told you once before, we didn't start any revolution in Syria, it was a copycat flop of some other successful revolutions in the same area.

So, the Syrian refugees can stay the f*** out of the US, and let the actors who created the refugee crisis in Syria, Isis, the Assad regime, and Vladimir Putin, clean up their own f***ing mess.

Now, what I just wrote is what's in the history books, and your bizarre opinions are diametrically in opposition to it. Go take anything else you have to say up with your new little friend. After all, he's as delusional as you are.

And let's put an end to the "Trump isn't qualified to be president argument", once and for all. A US, or any other president, is in large part, a figurehead. None of them have to be capable, "of running the country", they only have to be capable of finding good people who can.

And a little dose of parting irony. The US had a movie star as its president, Ronald Regan. He of course, was assumed to be, "unqualified to run the country". Guess what, he was the one who got the Berlin wall torn down. And that's way more than you'll ever accomplish, if you were to live three lifetimes. Now bugger off.
Prior to Iraqs invasion of Kuwait, he was a very good friend of the West.
And the second Iraqi invasion, 2003, was illegal. Yes it was. Because you're not allowed to just attack another country. Just like it was illegal that Iraq attacked Kuwait. So you're wrong. Again.

Your invasion of Iraq then created ISIS, by taking out Saddam and the others who held them at bay. And prior to this, the UN santioned Iraq, which cost the lives of 500,000 children under 5. Which your Secretary of State at the time, Madeleine Albright, said was an acceptable loss. The sanctions actually pushed the population closer to Saddam.

What you just wrote is the official history which you got taught, so you would think you were justified in your terrorist acts. It's always like this for americans; with a few exceptions. Here's another for you: americans slaughtered innocent farmers in South Vietnam - the place that is famously thought to be the area the US was protecting. You're just another brainwashed american, whose mindset enables the very terrorism you think you condemn and thus create the refugee flows you hate yourself.

Sod off. You're wrong as usual - go back to watching your fox news.Your country is to blame. Maybe one day you'll learn that. Ask the 1 million dead in Iraq. The us will continue to be an underdeveloped shithole with mindsets like yours.

Fun fact: US forces used depleted uranium shells against civilians. So in addition to getting shot up, lots of people develop deadly cancers. Nice terrorism.

Oh and before you get up on your high horse to complain: let it be said others, such as the UK, are not without fault either. Especially the UK.
 
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wiyosaya

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@captaincranky Sounds like you are the one who is rattled with so many *****s in your posts. It helps to vent, though. :D No wonder why Trump appeals to you. Don't worry! @Kunming and I will not have to impeach the president. Congress will do it for us!
Good job, Trump! Bring the jobs back to where they belong!
Yes, he will do that especially after nominating a judge for SCOTUS that has been known to favor the elite and rule against workers. :) In case you have not been paying attention to the news, Trump is re-implementing policies that lead to the global financial crises in 2008. But don't worry, there will be a democrat that will come in, once again, and clean up the republican mess. Sooner or later, many will figure out that Trump is an elitist that played everyone who voted for him for his own gain and foil hat feathers.

BTW - Kunming, I respect your opinion that Obama was worse than others, but GW Bush's administration lied to the US congress, and to the world when they said that Iraq had WMD. Now to be fair, Bush claimed he was given garbage intel by the CIA, while the CIA claimed that they told Bush not to use the intel because they, the CIA, that is, did not think the intel was credible.
 

treetops

TS Evangelist
George W. Bush started that ball rolling. If that jacka** mental defective would have been born to the Kennedy family, Rose would have locked him in an attic, and then made him the poster boy for her campaign against mental retardation. He certainly wouldn't have been thrust on our country as a president.

I haven't the vaguest idea where Jeb Bush summoned the hubris or the set of ballz it took to throw his hat in the ring as a candidate for president. After we endured 8 years of "Wubba", holy sh!t was that a paranoid delusion of grandeur.

Just out of curiosity , would you be foolish enough to get into it with Packistan?I mean sure, we have way more nuclear weapons than they do, and we would definitely win. But you'd be hating on us even more for the fallout the nuclear exchange would create.
Well a immigrationl ban hopefully wouldn't escalate that far. I actually don't think we need a immigration\travel ban but if we have one we might as well do it right.
 

captaincranky

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Trump is re-implementing policies that lead to the global financial crises in 2008. But don't worry, there will be a democrat that will come in, once again, and clean up the republican mess. Sooner or later, many will figure out that Trump is an elitist that played everyone who voted for him for his own gain and foil hat feathers.
Well American politics is unfortunately like that. It seems we can't elect a true "moderate" anymore, and you only get either "policy platform packages", from either the far left or far right. I for one would like to see jobs brought back to America, but given today's massive cultural greed and the legendary uselessness of a huge unwilling to work segment of the American population, I don't really hold out much hope for "America Being Great Again", at least not on the level of our new leader's expectations. (But then, he's just disseminating his own ego driven propaganda, hoping, "a spark will start a fire".

But then, I truly believe defunding planned parenthood and overturning Row v. Wade, will be a complete and utter disaster. Both, very tragically, will likely occur during the Trump administration

The "Right to Life" crowd, are our "radical Muslims", who want to send women's rights back to the 7th century. They are religious zealots of the highest order, and are completely out of touch with both the expense and logistics of supporting an ever increasing human population, I suspect if they were given the bill first hand for these children they so righteous insist, "deserve to be born", they'd STFU, and go back to their Bridge club.

BTW - Kunming, I respect your opinion that Obama was worse than others, but GW Bush's administration lied to the US congress, and to the world when they said that Iraq had WMD. Now to be fair, Bush claimed he was given garbage intel by the CIA, while the CIA claimed that they told Bush not to use the intel because they, the CIA, that is, did not think the intel was credible.
As far as the Second Iraq War goes, "Wubba" didn't invade Iraq, "Shotgun *ick Cheyney" did.

And as far as the "intelligence services", having, "intelligence not worth considering" , WTF are we paying them for, to sit around and drink coffee? (I'll grant you that James Bond movies may have instilled unrealistic expectations in the population at large). But seriously, look up "intelligence" in the dictionary. I'm fairly certain you'll see it doesn't mean, "someone who doesn't know sh!t about squat. :D
 
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