Trump says Apple is building three "big" and "beautiful" plants in the United States

David Matthews

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In an interview with The Wall Street Journal, President Trump boasted that Apple CEO Tim Cook called him and committed to build “three big plants, beautiful plants” in the United States. Apple has yet to comment on the statement by Trump.

According to Trump, “I said you know, Tim, unless you start building your plants in this country, I won’t consider my administration an economic success,” Trump said. “He called me, and he said they are going forward.”

Apple currently manufactures some Macs in Austin, Texas and Fremont, California. Apple employs around 80,000 people and claims it supports about two million jobs in the U.S., including its own employees, suppliers, app developers, and people who make accessories for its products (if that's the case, Google could claim the same thing).

It seems that Apple prefers to invest its money into suppliers and manufacturers, not necessarily its own plants. Just last May, Tim Cook revealed that Apple planned to invest $1 billion into boosting manufacturing here in the United States. Of that billion, about $200 million is going to Kentucky-based Corning, makers of the infamous Gorilla Glass. Foxconn, one of the major suppliers of Apple products, is also planning its first factory in the US. It's unclear if that factory will actually make Apple products, but Apple's investment into Foxconn surely helps.

For his part, Trump was very vocal during the campaign trail about his disdain for Apple outsourcing its manufacturing to foreign countries. “I'm going to get Apple to start making their computers and their iPhones on our land, not in China,” he said last March. “How does it help us when they make it in China?”

From a business perspective, it makes more sense to outsource manufacturing to countries that offer cheap labor such as China. The continuing growth of globalization ensures that materials and labor often are not sourced from one country alone. Furthermore, many large corporations (including Apple) typically bemoan the offshore tax laws imposed by the United States. Apple itself has stated that changes to how overseas profits are taxed would encourage them to repatriate their money, which is a substantial $230 billion, most of which is kept outside the U.S.

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Rippleman

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This is very good news if things happen quickly.

Note: I think the article author shouldn't be a writer for techspot. You can easily see his hate for Trump looking at the intentionally chosen pic, to the tag line, to the political position of "outsourcing is good for business". Techspot (while it would be there right to) shouldn't take sides if they want to seem like an unbiased tech site.
 

psycros

TS Evangelist
And you thought today's iPhone prices were high.

Trump is an absolute m0ron.
The current administration is the laughing stock of the world. Thanks for the laughs.
So you like the fact that Apple is the richest company in the world and gives almost nothing to charity, pays no taxes and keeps its money overseas? I guess you must be one of those evil Republicans.
 
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davislane1

And you thought today's iPhone prices were high.

Trump is an absolute m0ron.
The current administration is the laughing stock of the world. Thanks for the laughs.
So you like the fact that Apple is the richest company in the world and gives almost nothing to charity, pays no taxes and keeps its money overseas? I guess you must be one of those evil Republicans.
Well, he does seem to share their lack of awareness.
 

Evernessince

地獄らしい人間動物園
And you thought today's iPhone prices were high.

Trump is an absolute m0ron.
The current administration is the laughing stock of the world. Thanks for the laughs.
You are the laughing stock of techspot.

Back to the article, Great news if indeed this is true. We need more jobs, we need people to be more productive in their life.
Actually we don't need people to be more productive. America has some of the most overworked employees in the world. Compared to other 1st world countries, the average american worker takes home less money, has less benefits, takes less vacation time, and works more hours. In addition, the average skill level of American works has subsequently fallen over the years in correlation to the education budget. Trade schools are rare and the education level of the average american has hardly improved the last 20 years. Most rust belt worker who need the jobs the most are also in need of the most training, they simply don't have the skill set to work in technology jobs.
 

Rippleman

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Actually we don't need people to be more productive. America has some of the most overworked employees in the world. Compared to other 1st world countries, the average american worker takes home less money, has less benefits, takes less vacation time, and works more hours. In addition, the average skill level of American works has subsequently fallen over the years in correlation to the education budget. Trade schools are rare and the education level of the average american has hardly improved the last 20 years. Most rust belt worker who need the jobs the most are also in need of the most training, they simply don't have the skill set to work in technology jobs.
So, are saying that - as an american - you are better off to leave the USA to another country and work there?
 

GeforcerFX

TS Evangelist
And you thought today's iPhone prices were high.

Trump is an absolute m0ron.
The current administration is the laughing stock of the world. Thanks for the laughs.
You are the laughing stock of techspot.

Back to the article, Great news if indeed this is true. We need more jobs, we need people to be more productive in their life.
Actually we don't need people to be more productive. America has some of the most overworked employees in the world. Compared to other 1st world countries, the average american worker takes home less money, has less benefits, takes less vacation time, and works more hours. In addition, the average skill level of American works has subsequently fallen over the years in correlation to the education budget. Trade schools are rare and the education level of the average american has hardly improved the last 20 years. Most rust belt worker who need the jobs the most are also in need of the most training, they simply don't have the skill set to work in technology jobs.
Actually we do, everything you just said as some sort of negative I view as a positive, American's work hard and it's something we are known for. There is a lot of people that have no desire to sit in a office for 40-50 hours a week they want to be doing something everyday, those jobs have gone away in larger numbers over the last decade or two. All the Europeans I gamed with were amazed that I don't get 4-6 weeks of mandatory vacation, or work 30 hour weeks. I wouldn't want to have 6 weeks off from my job, and I really prefer working for 30-40 hours if I like my job, and I am not alone in that. Things like this where companies are committing to growing production work in the USA brings back some of those jobs, not always the highest paying but not everyone is out to make millions, studies have shown people who make enough money to live off of, while being able to put some away and have entertainment are the least stressed people in the USA. I don't think a American company like apple, Microsoft, intel, car companies, aerospace should be forced to make everything here in the USA, but there should be a effort to have 10-25% of there products made here in the USA. Being able to put Made and Supported in USA on a product is still good marketing, it's something people want to see.
 

Bubbajim

TechSpot Staff
Staff member
And you thought today's iPhone prices were high.

Trump is an absolute m0ron.
The current administration is the laughing stock of the world. Thanks for the laughs.
You are the laughing stock of techspot.

Back to the article, Great news if indeed this is true. We need more jobs, we need people to be more productive in their life.
Actually we don't need people to be more productive. America has some of the most overworked employees in the world. Compared to other 1st world countries, the average american worker takes home less money, has less benefits, takes less vacation time, and works more hours. In addition, the average skill level of American works has subsequently fallen over the years in correlation to the education budget. Trade schools are rare and the education level of the average american has hardly improved the last 20 years. Most rust belt worker who need the jobs the most are also in need of the most training, they simply don't have the skill set to work in technology jobs.
Careful where you leave your facts laying around, they're dangerous to people's ideologies.
 

Skidmarksdeluxe

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The only big and beautiful thing Trump is interested in is his bank balance as far as I know. What happened? Did Cook take him into tiny dark secluded room and whisper sweet nothing's in his ear?
 
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shm0wie

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This is very good news if things happen quickly.

Note: I think the article author shouldn't be a writer for techspot. You can easily see his hate for Trump looking at the intentionally chosen pic, to the tag line, to the political position of "outsourcing is good for business". Techspot (while it would be there right to) shouldn't take sides if they want to seem like an unbiased tech site.
Oh be quiet, he's stating facts - you're the one being bias.
 

David Matthews

TS Maniac
Staff member
This is very good news if things happen quickly.

Note: I think the article author shouldn't be a writer for techspot. You can easily see his hate for Trump looking at the intentionally chosen pic, to the tag line, to the political position of "outsourcing is good for business". Techspot (while it would be there right to) shouldn't take sides if they want to seem like an unbiased tech site.
Good morning sir! I have to disagree with you. I was trying to find pictures of Trump and Cook in the same frame and most of the pictures were what I posted. I did not take an actual stance as to whether outsourcing was good or bad for business. However, objectively, outsourcing allows businesses to spend less on labor in order to maximize profits...that's why they do it. Hence the phrase "from a business perspective". While I do have my own convictions, I always make sure to view things from multiple angles and viewpoints and let the readers make up their minds. Thanks!
 

Uncle Al

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Lets just keep in mind that Trump has a long, long, long history of putting words into other people mouth and they never get said ......
 
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Rippleman

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Good morning sir! I have to disagree with you. I was trying to find pictures of Trump and Cook in the same frame and most of the pictures were what I posted. I did not take an actual stance as to whether outsourcing was good or bad for business. However, objectively, outsourcing allows businesses to spend less on labor in order to maximize profits...that's why they do it. Hence the phrase "from a business perspective". While I do have my own convictions, I always make sure to view things from multiple angles and viewpoints and let the readers make up their minds. Thanks!
May I ask a question? Do you believe all products should be produced outside USA when and where they can be?
 

David Matthews

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May I ask a question? Do you believe all products should be produced outside USA when and where they can be?
Not necessarily. Ethically, I believe a company should do right by the company it is based in. However, I also understand that CEO's must also take the profitability of their company into consideration. Because of the United States' higher cost of living, it costs much more to hire inside the United States. Therefore, perhaps the government could provide more incentives for businesses to hire more Americans instead of outsourcing or make it attractive for foreigners to come to the US to work and keep the money inside US bounderies.
 
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