Twitter locks remaining employees out of offices after hundreds leave following Elon Musk's...

[Ohnooze]

Wait. If I'm salary why the hell would I want to work 70hrs if I'm only being paid for 40hrs?

The logic some people uses to worship at the altar of exploitative work practices is a bit weird.

No one is in support of working 70 for 40 on a salary. It's not about supporting exploitive work practices, it's about not expecting the world to cater to you. Asking people to come to the office these days is like asking them to sacrifice themselves on an altar or something. The younger generations have had life so easy that they tend to act as if they are owed an easy life. And to that I would say "not everything is about you"....or maybe just "learn to be an adult".

 

[Freedom Now]

lol those guys will find quickly another job, and don't worry, they will continue doing very well. Even better without ***** as a boss.
The real world is: people who spend years learning coding, algorithms, patterns have no issue to jump a crazy ship and continue to work at a place where they are appreciated.

I don't know if this is true. Almost all the tech companies are cleaning house right now. Intel, Amazon, Meta, Twitter to name just a few. Plus the companies that are not laying off are in hiring freezes. This does not look good for anyone looking for a job at the moment. Expect the next couple of years to be pretty rocky. I anticipate many of the ones walking away will be asking to come back in about 3 months from now.

 

[TempleOrion]

The Cult of Musk. Lots of cultists on here LOL.

Funnily enough, they're the same people that worship other famous sociopaths with NPD too.

Actually, that's not that surprising at all: Weak people love to look to 'strong daddy' figures to inspire them and save them from their own inherent shortcomings; it never works, but stale minds keep doing the same thing over and over - the very definition of madness ;-)

 

[GABulldog]

What better way to get rid of the swamp by telling these so called employees they actually need to work. Far to long Twitter employees have been catered, having the easy life. Now they cry like babies because their self made Utopia is crashing down.

Now is not the best time quitting your job with all these layoffs and the economy going into the crapper

 

[nnguy2]

No one is in support of working 70 for 40 on a salary. It's not about supporting exploitive work practices, it's about not expecting the world to cater to you. Asking people to come to the office these days is like asking them to sacrifice themselves on an altar or something. The younger generations have had life so easy that they tend to act as if they are owed an easy life. And to that I would say "not everything is about you"....or maybe just "learn to be an adult".

That's exactly what Musk is asking, come in and work 70hrs a week.

If you need to work 70 hrs to match my productivity at 40hrs, maybe you're not a very good worker.

 

[m3tavision]

Lets be clear .. He doesn't code, he doesn't ''work'' he is the laziest one there atm. .. all he is doing is trying to be a big scary big-bad that comes off incompetent in meetings then effs off to get a foot massage, and drink 100$ bottles of water.

HE IS THE BIGGEST DEAD WEIGHT at Twatter right now

Lets face it, you seem pretty angry & are defending those fragile SJW who added no value to Twitter Co.. Why?.

Also, a good portion of Americans work 60+ hours a week. Engineers on my team have worked 7 days a week for years (u can do math?) . If you want to make money you have to work, paycheck is not going to be handed to you, because you know how to cry and belong to club rage..

 

[Ohnooze]

If you need to work 70 hrs to match my productivity at 40hrs, maybe you're not a very good worker.

Well.....is he wrong?
I don't think it means to literally work 70s though.

 

[m3tavision]

Wait. If I'm salary why the hell would I want to work 70hrs if I'm only being paid for 40hrs?

The logic some people uses to worship at the altar of exploitative work practices is a bit weird.

Salary typically implies you can be called into work anytime... even on your off days, because you have no set time. But are expected to work at least 40h/week...

And if you have to work overtime on a project or just because, tough luck. You negotiated your contract & Others will take the job for less... so there is the door. Entitlement only gets you so far, then you have to work.

 

[brucek]

say yes to the new, extremely hardcore "Twitter 2.0," with its 40-hour-minimum weeks—they could average 60 hours or more

I don't understand this sentence, or half the garbage being spewed in this thread. I've never heard of any silicon valley company describing a 40 hour minimum week as "extremely hardcore". That's what every company I've heard or know of describes as fulltime for its white collar workers. What kind of terrible HR or PR ***** would you have to be to market your standard regular workweek as "extremely hardcore".

The company had already fired its lowest performing 50%. Absent any actual evidence vs. made up partisan BS, I think it's a reasonable assumption that any fulltime employee left already had a track record of productive fulltime work. When a new manager then demands a doubling down of work above that, while not offering any additional compensation, and also appearing to be on track to halve the value of the company (or worse) and thus the outstanding equity compensation which is an important part of the package, is going to find out that of course their engineers can do math and conclude this is the worst offer in town.

TechSpot usually has reasonably informed people but if you think Silicon Valley was built by people working 20 hour weeks, or has a work culture where peers would accept that, you're gone way deep into National Enquirer level made up la la land.

 

[nnguy2]

Salary typically implies you can be called into work anytime... even on your off days, because you have no set time. But are expected to work at least 40h/week...

And if you have to work overtime on a project or just because, tough luck. You negotiated your contract & Others will take the job for less... so there is the door. Entitlement only gets you so far, then you have to work.

Sure when there's an emergency or an important project that requires extra hours, I'll work some extra hours. But not constantly more than 40hrs.
Here's the thing. Some random joe off the street doesn't have the required education, experience, and skills set I have, so no "Others" can't simply come in and do what I do for less. That's why I make the salary I make. I also can go anywhere else and still command my salary but my company treats me well and doesn't require me to work overtime constantly.

 

[Wasteman]

Musk is a hardcore troll. There is no such thing as 'hardcore engineering'. What a pathetic small d##k wasteman!

 

[fps4ever]

That's exactly what Musk is asking, come in and work 70hrs a week.

If you need to work 70 hrs to match my productivity at 40hrs, maybe you're not a very good worker.

Sure, a l lot of crunch times at companies demand extra hours. Are you claiming that is what it will be going forward? And what does your productivity have to do with anything....

 

[Plutoisaplanet]

Excuse me sir, you dropped your tin foil hat.

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[nnguy2]

Sure, a l lot of crunch times at companies demand extra hours. Are you claiming that is what it will be going forward? And what does your productivity have to do with anything....

Musk's word not mine:

"This will mean working long hours at high intensity,” he said. “Only exceptional performance will constitute a passing grade."
So other companies do crunch time, now my company has to put up with crunch time? That's dumb logic.
My productivity has is why I don't have to work 70 hrs.

 

[Rock Dirty]

Those poor twitter employees, being forced to work to justify their 6 figure sums. I feel SOOOOO bad for them .

Welcome to the real world snowflakes. The rest of us have been working our balls off to recover from the 2008 recession, the 2020 lockdown, and the 2021 inflation crisis. Now you gotta work too, no more sitting on golden chairs in ivory towers complaining about ~isms and ~phobics. The bourgeoisie never think they will become the next proletariat

Dude, programmers ARE IN DEMAND. They don't have to sniff Musk's balls to make a living.

You know not of what you speak.

 

[fps4ever]

Musk's word not mine:

"This will mean working long hours at high intensity,” he said. “Only exceptional performance will constitute a passing grade."
So other companies do crunch time, now my company has to put up with crunch time? That's dumb logic.
My productivity has is why I don't have to work 70 hrs.

You makes no sense. Your productivity at your work has NO bearing on the amount of work it takes in crunch time to get deadlines met with other companies. He said exactly what I said. So you'd go home after 40 hours even if there is more work? Talk about dumb logic...

 

[GoldenGoat]

I wonder if he will relocate Twitter out of San Francisco. At this point, it might be the smart thing to do. He should move it and hire new people in a new city that are motivated and excited about the direction he wants to take it.

 

[axiomatic13]

Act your wage people. Unless you are part owner of a company do not put 70 hours into your job if you are only being paid for a 40 hour work week. Don't be stupid.

 

[takaozo]

I already see lines of people waiting for interviews at Twitter............GTFO
Nobody it's motivated to work +40 hours without actions at the company.
This is how they motivate management.

 

[Crabjuice]

Ah yes, a bunch of Elon worshippers crying “woke” and claiming workers are lazy because they don’t want to work for a douche. I happen to know more about what’s going on in parts of Twitter then the Elon ***-kissers here. They havent got a clue. I am going to laugh my *** off when **** at their DC starts falling apart, if it hasn’t started already. Contrary to what the right wing *****s here are saying, most of Twitters employees were hard workers. Good luck replacing them in the current situation. No one wants to work in a place that is going to **** or where they are expected to not have a life outside of Twitter. On top of all this, Twitter is losing advertisers left and right. No one wants to advertise on the new 8chan.

 

[bexwhitt]

Those poor twitter employees, being forced to work to justify their 6 figure sums. I feel SOOOOO bad for them .

Welcome to the real world snowflakes. The rest of us have been working our balls off to recover from the 2008 recession, the 2020 lockdown, and the 2021 inflation crisis. Now you gotta work too, no more sitting on golden chairs in ivory towers complaining about ~isms and ~phobics. The bourgeoisie never think they will become the next proletariat

tRump supporter?

 

[nnguy2]

You makes no sense. Your productivity at your work has NO bearing on the amount of work it takes in crunch time to get deadlines met with other companies. He said exactly what I said. So you'd go home after 40 hours even if there is more work? Talk about dumb logic...

No dumb logic is crunch in other industries so it's ok for non crunch time industry to overwork their employees.

 

[PEnnn]

It never fails.....Trump has to be brought into every single comment section.


Exactly. He wants to remove the dead weight.

LMAO!! You're so easily triggered when anyone mentions your Orange Haired buffoon!!

Sorry dude, but your Musk hero is doing his best to bend over for Trump and embrace his divisive, failed policies; so both are fair game.

Now, let me get my small fiddle....

 

[Ohnooze]

tRump supporter?

OMG....please get help.

 

[PEnnn]

IThe subscription makes Twitter more attractive to real people, because they can easily weed out all the bots & noise.

Yep, the real-people Alt-Right Nazis can't wait to come back!!!

Their exile / other hideout everybody was praising turned out to be as successful as any of Trump's failed businesses!