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I think there is a reason why no big social network apps/websites ever asked for any money from the users. I don't believe it will work. I just think this opens a door for a comparator.
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fps4ever
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So you are claiming all that is happening to clean up the twitter mess and make better changes as fast as they can to stop the bleeding equals non crunch time? That's quite the stretch...
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See this is what I mean.
I'm not even a Trump supporter. I literally do not want him to run again but you guys are so hung up on him that it's all you see. Also Musk is nothing to me and I don't use twitter so I have no dog in this fight.
I just can't believe how deranged you guys are over him to the point that you claim everyone who disagrees with you is a Trump supporter. It's just dumb.
fps4ever
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Biden supporter? How is that working out...
Ohnooze
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And there is the Nazi refrence....so we now have Trump and Nazis.
Now we just need some claims of some kind of bigotry and maybe some wacky climate change claims about the end of the world and we will be perfect.
Probably shouldn't have fired half the worker and told the rest be prepare to put in extra hours.
fps4ever
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Sounds like that is what the company needs. Cut the bloat and make the people still there actually work for a while until it gets better. Kind of like any company would do hemorrhaging money. But you probably know best.
My bet is twitter goes under before they can fix it.
fps4ever
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That is the lefts wet dream. Get the rest of the employees unemployed to spite Musk.
Not really. Just calling out effects and consequences. It's fun watching Musks stans cry bending over backwards defending his dump business decisions though. Just eating my popcorn on the side line and laughing at the whole thing.
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Thats what I dont get, you dont become a billionaire by being stupid.Good way to waste $44bil
He must know or plan something that we dont know to be doing this.
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Musk finally admits that he cannot run Twitter and looks for new Twitter leaders. https://www.reuters.com/technology/...-his-time-twitter-court-testimony-2022-11-16/
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wiyosaya
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Musk got to be a billionaire by manipulation and deceit. Seriously, have a look at some of these - https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=debunking+elon+musk He's just an expert at being unethical and taking credit for things he never did.
wiyosaya
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Musk isn't the only employer in the US. Lots of jobs out there and many companies are having trouble finding people to fill them. I'm sure all those leaving Twitter will find jobs in short order.
wiyosaya
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More like Musk has no clue what he is doing.
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Boy people really want to use racial and queerphobic slurs openly on twitter because let's cut to the chase: that's what 90% of you free speech advocates defending Elon really want: to turn back the clock 100 years and openly discriminate and persecute people.
But let's for a second think of this like a Capitalist: you want to know what kind of coders and developers work or rather, used to work 2-3 weeks ago, on Twitter? The kind of dev that already took intership positions, grunt work and finally landed a cosy IT position on big tech on California.
So the overlap of those kind of people on those kinds of jobs that would be willing to basically overnight be told that they are basically being turned into bottom-of-the-barrel, fresh-out-of-college videogame developers, perpetually on "crunch" mode, on a different country altogether is going to be just about say, 5% with a 5% margin of error of course.
It is extremely clear that Elon truly thinks that the world of developers is compromised of the same loyal weird nerds willing to take a bullet for him. We will see how long it takes to actually build talent back up without just establishing something exploitative like hire kids right out of college or economical (if not actual) refugees willing to actually work 60 to 80 hours at week knowing that if they happen to run into their weird boss and fail to answer one of his nonsensical riddles they will be fired on the spot.
But let's for a second think of this like a Capitalist: you want to know what kind of coders and developers work or rather, used to work 2-3 weeks ago, on Twitter? The kind of dev that already took intership positions, grunt work and finally landed a cosy IT position on big tech on California.
So the overlap of those kind of people on those kinds of jobs that would be willing to basically overnight be told that they are basically being turned into bottom-of-the-barrel, fresh-out-of-college videogame developers, perpetually on "crunch" mode, on a different country altogether is going to be just about say, 5% with a 5% margin of error of course.
It is extremely clear that Elon truly thinks that the world of developers is compromised of the same loyal weird nerds willing to take a bullet for him. We will see how long it takes to actually build talent back up without just establishing something exploitative like hire kids right out of college or economical (if not actual) refugees willing to actually work 60 to 80 hours at week knowing that if they happen to run into their weird boss and fail to answer one of his nonsensical riddles they will be fired on the spot.
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The key thing here is that other territories have far more stringent employment laws than the US. You can’t simply fire at will, etc. You can’t change the terms of my employment contract on the fly either (currently WFH, 37.5 hrs PW). Yes, I deliver projects OOH but that’s all chargeable at £75 for the 1st hr, DT for every hr after that.
And yes, decent system engineers are very much sought after at present, doubly so for any specific subject expert. I build HA broker platforms for a US firm but I’m contracted under UK law.
I’d take the 3 months severance and move to another finance firm tomorrow if my company was pulling this kind of cr@p (… which they wouldn’t cos ‘UK employment law’, etc, etc)
The key thing here is that other territories have far more stringent employment laws than the US. You can’t simply fire at will, etc. You can’t change the terms of my employment contract on the fly either (currently WFH, 37.5 hrs PW). Yes, I deliver projects OOH but that’s all chargeable at £75 for the 1st hr, DT for every hr after that.
And yes, decent system engineers are very much sought after at present, doubly so for any specific subject expert. I build HA broker platforms for a US firm but I’m contracted under UK law.
I’d take the 3 months severance and move to another finance firm tomorrow if my company was pulling this kind of cr@p (… which they wouldn’t cos ‘UK employment law’, etc, etc)
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