I always seem to get the 'weird' problems. Running Win 2k w/sp3 I have a box set up with one user and using TweakUI I set it to login with that restricted user automatically. I changed the startup of some services in Administrator Tools to trim down what is running at startup and now when I try to log off to get into the administartor destop, shut down or do a restart I get a CSC notification window stating that a program (don't know what) isn't responding. Either way, waiting or checking 'end now' explorer quits and all I see is the destop wallpaper. Ctl-Alt-delete doesn't do anything and the windows key doesn't either. I can't shutdown, restart or even logoff! All I can do is power off from the computers power button. I tried going into safe mode, but since it is set up as a restricted user (I guess) I still don't have all the tools and access to the desktop or even all of TweakUI's controls in safe mode! In other words I'm locked out of doing anything either in safe mode or trying to get into the administartor screen. I don't know what program isn't responding since Task Manager shows NO program running and only 13 processes running (including task manager itself). There is one Windows process that is running that I have NEVER seen before (no, it isn't a virus!) called: "dmadmin.exe" which I assume is the problem, but I can't end it from task manager since it I'm in a restricted user screen. Also, when I do go into safe mode it takes much longer (or so it seems) to boot. This is a older box and the purpose of trimming down the services was to speed up the system since it is only a 233MX processor. I have used the services consel many times and use it instead of MS Config to stop services from loading at startup. I also am aware of Black Vipers site on M$ services which I use as reference in using the services consel. In other words, I am familar with this tool, but got a M$ kiss this time! I hope all of that makes sense.