Unleashing Llano: AMD A8-3850 APU Review

By Julio Franco · 25 replies
Jun 29, 2011
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  1. Holy crap. This thing owns an i7 dirty bridge in games, consumes less power, and I am sure will be cheaper. It looks like ol' chris is getting a new laptop.
  2. Mikymjr

    Mikymjr TS Booster Posts: 124   +9

    Nice review and i'm happy to see AMD making progress. I'm more of an AMD fan myself, although Intel has their good points. But still AMD is Fusion. CPU-GPU Performance, Price, energy efficient
  3. Ohh, the test system clearly uses ddr3-1600... why would the writer/tester emphasizes a8-3850's dominance when overclocking memory to ddr3-1866?

    Perhaps the writer/tester should also provide results if the memory is also overclocked for the intel systems... this is one greatly made review but then overshadowed by the obvious bias towards an overclocked amd system.
  4. If you check this you'll se memory speed matters up to 1600. The ultimate overclock to 1866 doesn't bring much, it even scales negatively in the case of CoD.
  5. Steve

    Steve TechSpot Editor Posts: 2,868   +2,035

    Better understanding is required before flaming.

    This is not an overclocked mode, we did not raise the bus speed or tweak any settings. Furthermore we did nothing that cannot be done with an A8-3850 processor and any A55/A75 motherboard.

    AMD knew bandwidth was important and therefore 1333MHz/1600MHz and 1866MHz can be selected by default without “overclocking”. What we simply pointed out is users will want to make sure they purchase memory capable of at least 1866MHz with their Llano platform for maximum performance. Seems like good consumer advice to me so I do not see why this needs to be turned into the old fashion, you are being biased rubbish.
  6. Burty117

    Burty117 TechSpot Chancellor Posts: 3,144   +911

    I personally think this was a great review! went straight into the details of the chip itself and I have to admit, If these are as cheap as they say they will be, then my next cheap build will have one of these in for sure! thats seriously impressive especially that AMD managed to pull this off, I still have hopes for Bull dozer.

    I've been soo close going the Intel Sandy Bridge way for the last 6 months now i've almost made the plunge several times, this warms my heart just a tad to make me wait just a little longer for the FX chips :)
  7. Puiu

    Puiu TS Evangelist Posts: 2,652   +1,092

    I would like too see how a lower CAS 1600MHz memory fares against the faster 1866MHz memory that has a higher CAS.
    The review on toms only uses CAS 8 on both but it does show a good comparison between the different memory speeds.
  8. Kibaruk

    Kibaruk TechSpot Paladin Posts: 3,284   +900

    AMD is doing amazing, specially considering they are focused to the "bang for the buck" segment (In other words the big segment, yes intel is faster in raw CPU but that is not required for a LOT of people).

    Kudos AMD!
  9. edison5do

    edison5do TS Rookie Posts: 231

    God $amm!!! The thing only cost $135!!!! Oh my god I have My Next Butget Build!
  10. red1776

    red1776 Omnipotent Ruler of the Universe Posts: 5,224   +164

    Great review Steve,

    I have high hopes for FX as well Burty, I committed myself and got an 990 FXA UD-7 while running an 1100T as a placeholder...lets hope the re-spin goes well!
  11. Lionvibez

    Lionvibez TS Evangelist Posts: 1,264   +436

    Holy crap its "owning" Dirty bridge with intergrated graphics hold the presses.

    I'm not saying this is not a big win for AMD it is, i'm just amused at the way you wrote that like SB doesn't crush any and everything AMD except for this segment.
  12. so when are these shipping? Either I am blind or the ship date was not in the review. Does anyone know? I "need" them for a budget build project I am wanting to start.
  13. spydercanopus

    spydercanopus TS Evangelist Posts: 855   +121

    Another socket... AMD and their d*** sockets..
  14. its nice, fine for a budget build or HTPC, but i just can't get excited over it. where the !@#$ is bulldozer AMD?
  15. 1977TA

    1977TA TS Rookie Posts: 89

    Impressive IGP numbers, I can see these in a lot of HTPC's. I noticed there aren't any ITX mobo's available yet. Guess we'll just have to wait! Sandybridge owns though, I can't see anyone using a 2500k for a budget IGP solution. Hopefully bulldozer will be impressive.
  16. @spydercanopus are you really talking about AMD and their sockets? this is AMD's first truly new socket since pretty much the am2 socket back in 2006, sockets am2+ AM3 and AM3+ have all been rehashes of that socket and the chips didnt lost backwards compatibility until the AM3+ socket, and even that is not 100 non backwards compatible. Intel on the other hand hosed nehalem buyers by forcing them to upgrade if they wanted sandy bridge, and hosed 775 buyers by releasing nehalem and its separate dedicated sockets.
  17. TeamworkGuy2

    TeamworkGuy2 TS Enthusiast Posts: 191

    Thanks Steve and TS for the review.
    I love seeing new CPU reviews because every new CPU seems to push the bar a little higher, after hanging around TS for about a year and a half, CPUs from 2009 or even 2010 seems old :)
  18. Route44

    Route44 TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 11,984   +72

    Nice review. For me, however, I want to see how Llano functions in the mobile market. I am going to need a new laptop and Intel's 3000 graphics is one of the reasons I've not purchased yet.

    Bulldozer is what I am waiting for in a new PC build. I'll just keep waiting.
  19. Archean

    Archean TechSpot Paladin Posts: 5,690   +96

    Route: I think the mobile performance will certainly going to be better than what Intel is offering.

    Lets hope it will be worth the wait ;)

    Note: IMO it will not be as good a CPU as SNB is if it is it will be a huge achievement in itself, and IVB is heading down our way in couple of quarters as well.
  20. very few people with an i7 sandy bridge are using intergrated graphics... and this new amd cpu processing power cant touch anything SB has... and who the hell plays games with an IGPU.
  21. Route44

    Route44 TechSpot Ambassador Posts: 11,984   +72

    Believe it or not many people play games that don't need the latest and greatest dedicated card. Llano will do quite fine for a number of people.
  22. It beats Dirt using IGP only however. Using a dedicated card is another story.
  23. amstech

    amstech IT Overlord Posts: 1,936   +1,101

    This will change the mainstream gaming/multimedia laptop market entirely.
  24. Can you please explain how you can achieve 31% better perf in Photoshop when you overclocked the chip by merely 25%? This is technically impossible, unless other factors than clock come into play... I'm a bit irritated that this didn't even strike you as odd in your review!...

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