White House: Putin authorized election cyberattacks; US will respond with action

[DJoshua]

Pack your things and get out of the WH Obama!

 

[MoeJoe]

Fake News

 

[davislane1]

In the blue corner: Listen and Believe!

In the red corner: Evidence?!

One side has claims with no proof. The other has questions the blue team won't or can't answer.

All of them will refer to themselves as independent and informed thinkers.

Who will win?

Find out next time on Dragon Ball Z

Find out in the next fake news cycle.

 

[Nobina]

no it's not, it's the normal way to think. it's president not some random homeless guy talking about the end of the world. even if you don't like him, you should at least respect what he represents.

I agree that president has more information than we do but that is why he can say something that isn't true and then people like you will believe him without any questions. If you think that presidents don't lie then there's something wrong with you. Just look at Hillary, she could be president as much as Trump and she's already known for being a criminal and a liar. If what they're saying is true, why is there not a single person with any evidence? I'm gonna assume it's cause there is none. If you ask why would they lie about something like this? Well, they don't like that Trump got elected and they are doing everything to stop him.

 

[IAMTHESTIG]

“time and place of our choosing"... lol, what is this, a playground? 4 o'clock, by the money bars, be there for your beat down!

Seriously though if this is true it could be considered an act of war. If it is true they should take action now. But maybe it isn't true and Obama is showing his cowardice once again, provoking a war after his nemesis is in office.

Interesting times...

 

[MonsterZero]

If it's true they did hack the election I'd like to get rid of this shitbag Trump and lets re-vote with paper ballots.

 

[kenc1101]

for every shitty president there are a lot more better examples that you should follow.
it was proven that Bush lied, it wasn't for what Obama said. It's ok to ask questions, it's not ok to insult the president just because of stupid biased opinions.
if there is even a chance that Russia intervened in the election then you should be appalled and disgusted by such actions. no country should have to be subjected to such insults.


no it's not, it's the normal way to think. it's president not some random homeless guy talking about the end of the world. even if you don't like him, you should at least respect what he represents.

It's the office that should be respected. Just because I respect the office does not mean I respect the man. Respecting the office someone represents and respecting what the holder of the office says are two totally different things.

 

[andrewdoyle88]

And I'm sitting here in Canada up to my neck in snow wondering why my balls are so cold.

 

[MonsterZero]

This isn't exactly fake news in the sense that they are claiming we were legitimately hacked. They are simply suggesting that we were hacked because they were tipped by anonymous sources. So in the sense there has to be some skepticism of wether or not the anonymous sources are valid. However, there were three sources in total.

So every Trumpster fan claiming this is a fake story, it's not, its a legitemate story about something that may have actually occurred. This isn't like your Facebook news feed with all the Hillary CIA stories that you guys like to read or your fake news you get from Fox. This is legitimate news from respectable sources, I.e. the White House and Associated Press.

 

[davislane1]

This isn't exactly fake news in the sense that they are claiming we were legitimately hacked. They are simply suggesting that we were hacked because they were tipped by anonymous sources. So in the sense there has to be some skepticism of wether or not the anonymous sources are valid. However, there were three sources in total.

So every Trumpster fan claiming this is a fake story, it's not, its a legitemate story about something that may have actually occurred. This isn't like your Facebook news feed with all the Hillary CIA stories that you guys like to read or your fake news you get from Fox. This is legitimate news from respectable sources, I.e. the White House and Associated Press.

The White House, which has a vested interest in delegitimizing Trump, told us Benghazi was because of a video, and said that ISIS was "contained" is about as reliable a source as a stock broker with no assets.

The fake is strong with this one.

 

[Impudicus]

Wasn't it a gmail account that was hacked that lead to the leak of the Podesta Emails? "Only Russia's senior-most officials could have authorized these activities." Really? It does not take the backing of a president to hack an email account. What about Clinton's personal email server? Now what if the FBI was able to find Clinton's emails when they looked? But team Clinton was like nothing to see here and the FBI said, oh there's nothing here... Then Wikileaks is like here it is. The fact is that what damaged the Clinton campaign was what was in the emails. The things herself and Democrats in her circle said in those emails. Russia didn't say those things in the emails or generate any fake emails...

 

[davislane1]

Wasn't it a gmail account that was hacked that lead to the leak of the Podesta Emails? "Only Russia's senior-most officials could have authorized these activities." Really? It does not take the backing of a president to hack an email account. What about Clinton's personal email server? Now what if the FBI was able to find Clinton's emails when they looked? But team Clinton was like nothing to see here and the FBI said, oh there's nothing here... Then Wikileaks is like here it is. The fact is that what damaged the Clinton campaign was what was in the emails. The things herself and Democrats in her circle said in those emails. Russia didn't say those things in the emails or generate any fake emails...

The Podesta emails were the result of Podesta leaving his smartphone in a cab. The Red Narrative is about the Clinton server. The illegal unencrypted server that anyone else would have gone to prison for.

 

[Kenrick]

This obama-hillary administrtion is a joke. They should be awarded the "pioneer of fake news". At least show something of a proof. No countries looks up to USA anymore because of these clowns. I agree Trump looks like a joker but at least he has the balls to point out the real problems, and offer a solution to it even if it is unconventional in nature... More people seems to know the real truth of what is happening inside USA.

 

[wiyosaya]

for every shitty president there are a lot more better examples that you should follow.
it was proven that Bush lied, it wasn't for what Obama said. It's ok to ask questions, it's not ok to insult the president just because of stupid biased opinions.
if there is even a chance that Russia intervened in the election then you should be appalled and disgusted by such actions. no country should have to be subjected to such insults.

no it's not, it's the normal way to think. it's president not some random homeless guy talking about the end of the world. even if you don't like him, you should at least respect what he represents.

Yes, it was proven that Bush lied. Unfortunately, rather than set precedent, stand up for truth in the presidency, and prosecute W for treason, Obama let both W and Shot Gun Chaney get away with it. As I see it, this was Obama's biggest mistake as president. What that said to the rest of the politicians is that anything goes. Lie as much as you want about your opponents if it gets you the result that you desire. There will be NO consequences to you for your lies. It is not only the media that help to promote fake news, it is every underhanded politician and every politician that wants you to believe what they say because it helps them fulfill the voice in their heads that says God is talking to them and God wants them to save the country.

As I see it, politics in the US, whether from the point of view of an insider or the point of view of an outsider, has devolved to the point where slinging sh!t around will convince the masses that what that politician is saying is the God's Honest Truth because it resonates with the horrible conditions in the country and the world right now. It resonates with the pain everyone feels. Just because it makes such resonance does not mean it is true no matter who is spouting the current round of drivel. Why does Pence not accept the offer of pizza at Comet Pizza? If he did, he would lose face because he would be admitting that Pizza Gate is a fake news story that was politicized for partisan ends.

Both sides lie like hell, and fully endorse such lying, and that, as I see it, will lead to another four years of wasting time on trivial sh!t. The Benghazi investigation, after spending years and $7.8M to find nothing, was closed last week by the committee empowered to investigate it, but don't worry, the committee that is investigating climate scientists has taken up the get nothing done mantle for the next who knows how many years.

Everyone, welcome to another four more years of the guy that was elected president not doing what he said and not representing the little guy that he so dearly promised he would. There is no working together in today's US government, and our latest elect has done his best, IMO, to increase the divisiveness.

Rather than progress, respecting each other's differences, working toward compromise, and actually doing things that are in the best interests of the country and the future of the US, our lovely govt will work on nullifying Roe v Wade, increasing air, water, and land pollution, sh!tting even more on the middle and lower class, promoting more fake news so more citizen sheriffs will support the jail system, and, in general, getting nothing truly meaningful done like rebuilding the electric grid and the highway system.

The latest elect will issue as many if not more edicts than the last only to be reversed by the next elect - whenever that happens.

As I see it, the reality is that the US govt has proven they are nothing more than trash heads serving their own individual interests and bucket lists.

Bankruptcy check
Spoiled brat check
Billionaire check
TV star check
Community organizer check
Senator check
First black president check
President of the US check
Most vacation time of any US president check
Sexual predator check
Lie enabler check
Fake news enabler check
Promote fake news of fantasy WMD check
War criminal check
Falsely make 2nd amendment supporters think that your opponent wants to take away their 2nd amendment rights check
Ad nauseum check

 

[Kaj Hansen]

Russians are too intelligent and resourceful (read sneaky) to leave any evidence laying around.

my gf is running a european local non profit informational wordpress website about a garden, with not that many visitors, say couple 100 unique ip's a month, yet they had 130 interactions with a russian ip named vote for trump not saying that couldn't be a setup or anything. But my guess is they don't give a **** about people knowing where it comes from.

a bot probably tried the code for posting wherever they can as a reply with vote for trump..

 

[wiyosaya]

Russians are too intelligent and resourceful (read sneaky) to leave any evidence laying around.

my gf is running a european local non profit informational wordpress website about a garden, with not that many visitors, say couple 100 unique ip's a month, yet they had 130 interactions with a russian ip named vote for trump not saying that couldn't be a setup or anything. But my guess is they don't give a **** about people knowing where it comes from.

a bot probably tried the code for posting wherever they can as a reply with vote for trump..

Interesting...

But why would they give a sh!t? No sane, they key word being sane, ruler in today's world would dare escalate matters that could lead to nuclear confrontation. As I mentioned, NO consequences for lies. Forget global warming, nuclear winter would be a far worse problem.

 

[wiyosaya]

And the latest BS move - http://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/cel...ent-for-the-arts/ar-AAlDWDI?OCID=ansmsnnews11

 

[RustyTech]

Hillary and Obama Administration were lying with their claims of 17 US Intel agencies saying Russia was hacking US elections.

Top U.S. spy agency has not embraced CIA assessment on Russia hacking
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-intelligence-idUSKBN14204E

DNI James Clapper: NO strong evidence on Russian hacks

Former British Embassador CraigMurray Reveals Democrat Insiders As Source For DNC Leaks, Not Russia
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...termediary-disgusted-Democratic-insiders.html

jtsco, how dare you spread truth! Don't you know that if you haven't embraced the Dem's point of view, than you're on the "wrong" side of things!? and really...you're now providing source?...that's so old school.
/s

 

[RustyTech]

If it's true they did hack the election I'd like to get rid of this shitbag Trump and lets re-vote with paper ballots.

I'm not exactly 100% sure, but I heard that the electronic voting machines are NOT connected to the internet, so there is no way of hacking them.

 

[davislane1]

I'm not exactly 100% sure, but I heard that the electronic voting machines are NOT connected to the internet, so there is no way of hacking them.

Moreover, they already did a few recounts (we can thank Jill Stein for that). Trump picked up votes.

 

[RustyTech]

Moreover, they already did a few recounts (we can thank Jill Stein for that). Trump picked up votes.

That's right! Trump got a few hundred of thousands of extra votes and at least in once instance, Hillary got 3. LOL

 

[Axle Grease]

Bluster.

It is also contrived. When the Wikileaks founder says the Kremlin was not the source of the emails, you'd think it would be front page news on all western media sites. Wikileaks people have said numerous times that Russia was not its source for the emails, but the left wing media machine goes with the narrative pushed by the DNC to de-legitimize the election results.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...Clinton-emails-saying-Kremlin-NOT-source.html

 

[EClyde]

FAKE NEWS

 

[Evernessince]

Unfortunately the majority of Americans no longer trust the government so such claims without evidence to back it up is meaningless. It's further verified to the everyday citizen when the government further tells us "we can't show you because it is classified" ... if that was the case, why bring it up anyway? While I am still of the opinion that the President-Elect isn't playing with a full deck, I will give him credit for speaking his mind directly to the public and side stepping a now all too self serving media.

One of those laws I would enact if I were "king for a day" would be that any politician that used words he could not back up with evidence (ie: seamless transition, transparent government, etc) could be "hushed" (sorry I couldn't think of the right word) for a period of 1 year and required to attend classes in honesty, integrity, and truth telling ...

OK, just to answer your next question, yes I really am from Mars and looking forward to your first arrivals ... I have set up a dandy Real Estate Company to handle all of your relocation needs!

You do realize that Trump would be "hushed" forever in that case right? He has seriously cited some random people on twitter saying things as a source.

 

[Evernessince]

Hillary and Obama Administration were lying with their claims of 17 US Intel agencies saying Russia was hacking US elections.

Top U.S. spy agency has not embraced CIA assessment on Russia hacking
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-intelligence-idUSKBN14204E

DNI James Clapper: NO strong evidence on Russian hacks

Former British Embassador CraigMurray Reveals Democrat Insiders As Source For DNC Leaks, Not Russia
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...termediary-disgusted-Democratic-insiders.html

jtsco, how dare you spread truth! Don't you know that if you haven't embraced the Dem's point of view, than you're on the "wrong" side of things!? and really...you're now providing source?...that's so old school.
/s

I think you mean "How dare you take things out of context". There's no direct evidence but then again there is no such thing as direct evidence when finding hackers. I would like to see someone give an example of direct evidence in a hacking case. Just from what we know, the hackers used the same hacking patterns as the Russian Intelligence agency and when Wikileak happened, they forgot to strip a few of the files of their metadata, thus revealing some machine information including that the files were created using Russian language encoding.