Windows 2030: Microsoft predicts agentic AI OS will replace mouse and keyboard

[brunocasarini]

From an usability, UI/UX perspective, we should never have moved from 7. Heck, Windows 2000/Windows XP Classic UI was already perfectly fine by me and I'd still be using it if I could. But then how would designers justify keeping their jobs?

The problem with Windows (and most other software these days, really) is that development teams have many people onboard that the only way to justify keeping their jobs, is making up new features, bloat and changes that no one wants and no one asked for.

Especially UI/UX and feature designers, in an ideal world should never ever be hires, always contractors.

On Windows 11, I have to use an uncomfortable amount of third-party tools to keep the UI sane. In Windows 8 and Windows 10, Classic Shell/OpenShell was enough. Now with Windows 11, I also need Windhawk to make it usable.

Try RetroBar: https://github.com/dremin/RetroBar.

 

[LimyG]

IMO, they reached that stage in the early 2000's when they had the audacity to proclaim, "At Microsoft, we like to think that we can always improve on a standard." As if they had no clue what "Standard" means.

They sell Kool Aid and people just cannot control their addiction to artificially colored and flavored sugar water.

IMO, AI will crash and burn for anyone heavily invested in it especially when they are lying about its abilities.

Some people don't like it, but I'll recommend OpenSuSE LEAP. I love it. After trying RedHat, I switched to OpenSuSE and never turned back.

I'm glad a top 1% poster (you) is at least as cynical about MS - Windows as me.
Also cheers for the heads up on OpenSuSE LEAP. TBH I hadn't heard of it but will look into it.
Cheers!

 

[OortCloud]

They are just desperate to justify their huge overspend on AI that they are willing to throw the OS under the bus too.

 

[EdmondRC]

Sometimes can and should are not the same thing.

 

[arrowflash]

Try RetroBar: https://github.com/dremin/RetroBar.

Cool, I didn't know about it, looks interesting. Thank you. Even though OpenShell + Windhawk are serving me well and are very stable, it's always nice to have more options. I will give it a try in a VM.

 

[tipstir]

Windows 2030, is it a dream or just another way to say hopefully we can get this right? First scrap the current model and build once more with real programmers, UI/UX concepts try to get it right. As for voice only well might be longer than they think lets say 3030. Just not there yet as everything is still a WORK-IN-PROGRESS!

 

[LimyG]

Windows 2030, is it a dream or just another way to say hopefully we can get this right? First scrap the current model and build once more with real programmers, UI/UX concepts try to get it right. As for voice only well might be longer than they think lets say 3030. Just not there yet as everything is still a WORK-IN-PROGRESS!

I picked up on, "real programmers." Indeed, that would be nice.
Also voiceless ONLY will never happen. Imagine being in bed with wife or other who is dead tired, you with laptop talking throughout the night. Might need marriage councelling.

Silly example, satire, but I don't like the idea of talking to my PC in any situation. A mobile, well yes of course. But for regular PC centric tasks like clean disk, that would feel weird.

Edit: "WORK-IN-PROGRESS!" Indeed. With MS stuff if it leaves that status it's never as good as it was made to sound when still a, "WORK-IN-PROGRESS!"

 

[cachy]

I swear, if M$ goes through with this, I will be through with M$ and Windows.

Why wait? After I got a MacBook Pro, I only go to my Win desktop for games. It is a vastly superior laptop hardware and software wise. I will try Linux on my desktop again. I wish review sites like this did some comparison testing of games using Proton on currently popular distro v Windows.

 

[DonquixoteIII]

There are a few of us, TGL survivors, who are not capable of speech. The mouse and keyboard are my lifeline at present....

Total Glossectomy (Tongue removal) and Laryngectomy (voice box and associated structures removal.)

 

[LimyG]

Why wait? After I got a MacBook Pro, I only go to my Win desktop for games. It is a vastly superior laptop hardware and software wise. I will try Linux on my desktop again. I wish review sites like this did some comparison testing of games using Proton on currently popular distro v Windows.

Yeah, that's a great idea. A lot of work, but comparing whole OS and features would be very interesting indeed.

It may also give lazy people like me the nudge to dump steadily deteriorating Windows. Seems more like platform to push whatever MS is trying to convince everyone is the greatest thing since Scotch eggs. They will likely end up screwing up A.I. and even leaking personal data.

Add in a wonderful and comprehensive telemetry system and it's getting harder to actually find the core things needed in an OS - getting our programs/games etc, that we choose to function well with our hardware.

MS thinks it knows what we all want. Well not really. Often said but they think they know what will bring them the most revenue.

Sadly most of these "features," are junk and not needed universally.

Provide a good fast secure core OS. Make programs optional, and of course people will pay for them. Different folks different needs.

But, no no no. Microsoft knows best want we want and need, even if we don't.

 

[hardergamer]

Hello Microsoft Mother AI here: I'm so sorry to hear that your camera and microphone have been switched off, or very unlikely stopped working, but don't worry we are here to help, we'll give you 7 days to replace or have us look at your Windows Agentic based machine before we lock your account together with all Apps you have linked to it. Goodbye User 10016572239.
"This message was free, but the next one from Mother will cost 100 credits"

 

[hardergamer]

So I'll pay $300 by then for a AAA game and just sit back and tell it to shoot everything in site. WTF! I guess the game will just play by itself and I get to watch.
Welcome to windows 2030 sit back grab your popcorn and have a talk to yourself, yay I'm just so bloody excited about this shite I cant contain myself.

No, you have it completely wrong, you will buy an AI bot to play the game for you as you sit back eating your popcorn. And how far you progress in games will depend how much money you spend on your AI GPU bot. Both Nvidia and AMD are working on your new AI GPU bots right now.

 

[yannus]

The faster people switch to Linux, the lesser the impact of those terrible moves. Micro$oft uses inertia as part of their strategy. If many people switch to Linux now, there will be much less inertia. And remember that geeks always lead the way.

 

[MiqWalsh]

From an usability, UI/UX perspective, we should never have moved from 7. Heck, Windows 2000/Windows XP Classic UI was already perfectly fine by me and I'd still be using it if I could. But then how would designers justify keeping their jobs?

The problem with Windows (and most other software these days, really) is that development teams have many people onboard that the only way to justify keeping their jobs, is making up new features, bloat and changes that no one wants and no one asked for.

Especially UI/UX and feature designers, in an ideal world should never ever be hires, always contractors.

On Windows 11, I have to use an uncomfortable amount of third-party tools to keep the UI sane. In Windows 8 and Windows 10, Classic Shell/OpenShell was enough. Now with Windows 11, I also need Windhawk to make it usable.

So make the switch.....and move over to the "dark side". I've been using Linux for well over a decade. Ya don't like the UI? Then change it.

I build my own UIs. They look the way I want 'em to......not the way somebody else thinks they should.......and have the features that I want to use. Win-win. If a non-techie type like me can do it - it's not hard! - then anyone can.

The process is almost I***t-proof once you get the hang of it.

Miq.

 

[LimyG]

So make the switch.....and move over to the "dark side". I've been using Linux for well over a decade. Ya don't like the UI? Then change it.

I build my own UIs. They look the way I want 'em to......not the way somebody else thinks they should.......and have the features that I want to use. Win-win. If a non-techie type like me can do it - it's not hard! - then anyone can.

The process is almost I***t-proof once you get the hang of it.

Miq.

While I agree with you on principle, I am one of those folks who detests MS methods, and OS direction. I do plan to change to Linux at some point.

But, is it really easy? If so I think MS Windows share would already be taking hit. What about games, and other software interactions with Linux.

Your answer, and rightly so I guess would be, research it, read up about it and do it. Fair enough.

But there is also the issue of time and, I admit I am not completely confident in the whole endeavour going smoothly.

Please don't take this post as crtizism. It's not. In fact I envy your position.

What would be even better would be a few starter tips, recommendations of "distros," I not even sure what a distro is - a version I guess?

If folks help each other with this, it will make it more likely that others, especially on forums like this make the change.

I'll start off with one question:

Do you have a link that gives reliable, non opinionated info on the basics of Linux?

If so, that would be great!

 

[LimyG]

Hello Microsoft Mother AI here: I'm so sorry to hear that your camera and microphone have been switched off, or very unlikely stopped working, but don't worry we are here to help, we'll give you 7 days to replace or have us look at your Windows Agentic based machine before we lock your account together with all Apps you have linked to it. Goodbye User 10016572239.
"This message was free, but the next one from Mother will cost 100 credits"

Thanks. Satire is needed to keep us sane. Those of us still on Windows!

EDIT: Just thought. It's not that far from a reallity!!

 

[MiqWalsh]

While I agree with you on principle, I am one of those folks who detests MS methods, and OS direction. I do plan to change to Linux at some point.

But, is it really easy? If so I think MS Windows share would already be taking hit. What about games, and other software interactions with Linux.

Your answer, and rightly so I guess would be, research it, read up about it and do it. Fair enough.

But there is also the issue of time and, I admit I am not completely confident in the whole endeavour going smoothly.

Please don't take this post as crtizism. It's not. In fact I envy your position.

What would be even better would be a few starter tips, recommendations of "distros," I not even sure what a distro is - a version I guess?

If folks help each other with this, it will make it more likely that others, especially on forums like this make the change.

I'll start off with one question:

Do you have a link that gives reliable, non opinionated info on the basics of Linux?

If so, that would be great!

@LimyG :-

There's an awful lot of resources available for Linux noobs these days. Most weren't around when I first got interested about 15 years back, although things were definitely improving when I switched completely in 2014.

I'll give you a couple of links:-

The first is an old article, so the way in which it's written may come across as condescending. It is, however, as relevant now as it was then, and explains much of the Linux community's 'mindset' :-

Linux is NOT Windows

The second is one of the modern sites that are focused specifically on helping newcomers to Linux.....much of it in the modern way, of everything in 'small bites' for the short attention span of today:-

Linux Journey: Learn Linux with Free Linux Tutorial & Course

Learn Linux with free tutorial and beginner-friendly courses. Explore Linux basics, essential Linux commands, and practical skills for mastering Linux step by step. Linux Journey is now part of LabEx.

linuxjourney.com

Huge strides have been made in the open-source community, to make Linux inviting, welcoming & very user-friendly, as well as being a lot more fun than Windows generally is. Running an OS doesn't HAVE to be hard work, y'know? Yes, there WILL be a 'learning curve', though nowhere near as steep as many make it out to be.....and once you've nailed it, Linux is no better OR worse than MyCrudSoft's offerings. It's just 'different', that's all......and offers a 'freedom' unique to open-source projects & collaboration that just isn't found in the corporate world.


Miq.

 

[LimyG]

@LimyG :-

There's an awful lot of resources available for Linux noobs these days. Most weren't around when I first got interested about 15 years back, although things were definitely improving when I switched completely in 2014.

I'll give you a couple of links:-

The first is an old article, so the way in which it's written may come across as condescending. It is, however, as relevant now as it was then, and explains much of the Linux community's 'mindset' :-

Linux is NOT Windows

The second is one of the modern sites that are focused specifically on helping newcomers to Linux.....much of it in the modern way, of everything in 'small bites' for the short attention span of today:-

Linux Journey: Learn Linux with Free Linux Tutorial & Course

Learn Linux with free tutorial and beginner-friendly courses. Explore Linux basics, essential Linux commands, and practical skills for mastering Linux step by step. Linux Journey is now part of LabEx.

linuxjourney.com

Huge strides have been made in the open-source community, to make Linux inviting, welcoming & very user-friendly, as well as being a lot more fun than Windows generally is. Running an OS doesn't HAVE to be hard work, y'know? Yes, there WILL be a 'learning curve', though nowhere near as steep as many make it out to be.....and once you've nailed it, Linux is no better OR worse than MyCrudSoft's offerings. It's just 'different', that's all......and offers a 'freedom' unique to open-source projects & collaboration that just isn't found in the corporate world.


Miq.

Thank you very much, MiqWalsh.

Your links, especially the second one is very helpful.

I also appreciatte your realistic take/attitude to the whole thing as you wrote in the last paragrahph, starting, "Huge strides...."

Cheers!

Edit: That second link, "linuxjourney" is really good. Well laid out and seems to cover everything is nice bite size sections.
Thanks again!

 

[MiqWalsh]

@LimyG :-

Glad I could help. It's rare to find anybody on sites predominantly populated by Windows users that actually asks about this stuff!

Like I said, the first article - "Linux is NOT Windows" - dates from many years back (early 2000s, I believe). The depiction of the traditional Unix "neckbeard", snarling "RTFM!" at anybody daring to ask questions IS somewhat misleading.....but the descriptions of the way in which the two cultures approach issues is STILL highly relevant, more so today than ever.

It was only ever meant as a 'fun' article. Especially the bit about the Lego car.....and the way Windows users expected support & assistance because they'd had to pay for that darned license key!


Miq.

 

[LimyG]

@LimyG :-

Glad I could help. It's rare to find anybody on sites predominantly populated by Windows users that actually asks about this stuff!

Like I said, the first article - "Linux is NOT Windows" - dates from many years back (early 2000s, I believe). The depiction of the traditional Unix "neckbeard", snarling "RTFM!" at anybody daring to ask questions IS somewhat misleading.....but the descriptions of the way in which the two cultures approach issues is STILL highly relevant, more so today than ever.

It was only ever meant as a 'fun' article. Especially the bit about the Lego car.....and the way Windows users expected support & assistance because they'd had to pay for that darned license key!


Miq.

I forgot to say. It was clever of you to include the first link too. Of course it is funny, but does show how things change overtime. Cheers!

Well, somethings at least!

 

[WaphleStomp]

I prophetise no mouse and no keyboard will be equally unpopular as Longhorn or Win8. Of course, though, considering we're talking about 2030, a mouse'll probably start at $250 and the starting price for a keyboard'll be "If you need to ask, you can't afford it".

 

[LimyG]

I prophetise no mouse and no keyboard will be equally unpopular as Longhorn or Win8. Of course, though, considering we're talking about 2030, a mouse'll probably start at $250 and the starting price for a keyboard'll be "If you need to ask, you can't afford it".

I don't have the gift of phophecy, but using finacial anyalsyt software, I'd say you prophecy is spot on.