A Rocky Launch: Gamers Are Not Buying Nvidia's RTX 4080

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ddferrari

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I landed the 3080 12GB model, which also has a few more cores and a 384 vs 320 bus for the same cost as any 10GB model. Other than above 60fps 4K, this card is more than enough for just about everyone. It's almost a 3080Ti. Again, these can be found for $750.

At 3440x1440p or below, it will give everything you need for quite a few years to come. I prefer to buy new cards with full 3-yr warranties, and knowing they haven't been flogged by miners.
 

NicktheWVAHick

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The economy is in shambles. People are broke. Inflation is at record levels, and this generation of woke liberal brats don't work. Sales of GPUs is down across the board and has been for years, for all brands.
You are absolutely right. I can afford whatever computer parts I want whenever I want. but after decades of purchasing SOTA components at inflated prices I’m done. Truth is, my 10900K and 3090 work just fine. Even for my gold standard MSFS2020. The economy is in shambles and unless you’re a billionaire, you should have been hoarding your hard-earned dollars years ago. The market is down, bitcoin is down inflation is up. Have fun using your shiny new 4090 to keep warm this winter. Assuming you can afford the electricity.
 

Loadedaxe

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I landed the 3080 12GB model, which also has a few more cores and a 384 vs 320 bus for the same cost as any 10GB model. Other than above 60fps 4K, this card is more than enough for just about everyone.

At 3440x1440p or below, it will give everything you need for quite a few years to come. I prefer to buy new cards with full 3-yr warranties, and knowing they haven't been flogged by miners.
and your proud of spending that kind of money on a video card?

:p
 

maxxcool7421

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I wasn't talking about the 4080 12GB.

I'm talking about these charts, comparing prices. They don't put the MSRP in for the 3080 12GB:
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I know the official launch of the 3080 12GB, no MSRP was given. The card was just tossed out to the consumer and places priced it over what the 3080 10GB were selling for at retailers, so the 12GB model came in around $1200. They sold fast (like all GPUs at retailers) and were getting scalped $1800+.

Eventually a MSRP was listed for these 3080 12GB at $799. It just bugs me that these graphs don't incorporate that info.




I've noticed that the Micro Center numbers are slowly dropping. Some stores had easily a hundred plus and now they're trickling down into the 70-60s.

My local Micro Center had 70 cards last week Thursday (according to the webisite) left in stock. Then Friday it showed about 24 in stock. Then Saturday it showed 39 in stock. Then Sunday it showed 13 in stock. Monday it showed 21 in stock.....

I don't know if they just can't count or if they're jerking our legs with their actual inventory on hand, but it keeps fluctuating. I don't know how their numbers went up between Sunday and Monday, because Tuesday is their stock delivery day. They just magically had more?

When I looked this morning they had 13 on hand - 13 of Zotac's model that costs $1399.

I take their inventory counts online with a grain of salt. All I know is that they do have some on hand, but exactly how many is anyone's guess.

It is a MINING CARD ..
 

GoldenGoat

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I would never pay this much for a graphics card.

Though it cracks me up scalpers bought these up and now can't sell them to even get their money back.
 

Neatfeatguy

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It is a MINING CARD ..
I think you're confused.
A card specifically made for mining, those were made and designed with no video output on them. You must be thinking of the Nvidia CMP cards - I think that's what they were called.

The 3080 12GB was designed to take advantage of those that complained about the low 10GB model....Nvidia capitalized on it by taking advantage of the market at the time and the stupid people that are willing to spend whatever they can on whatever cards they can get.

When the card was released Nvidia listed no MSRP for it and the card ended up pricing around the $1200 mark right from the start simply because the 3080 10GB were going for upwards of $1100 at times from just the retailers. So, the 3080 12GB dropped into the market at an artificially inflated price above the 3080 10GB. Eventually the MSRP was given for the 3080 12GB for $799.

There is a MSRP listed for the 3080 12GB, it's $799.
 

waclark

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Yes!

The 4080 is horrific value, but that's the point.

Jensen's last profit call with investors was very clear on this - the plan is to keep pricing high in order to sell off stock of the 30 series cards. There won't be any price reduction until they've cleared more inventory - which will probably be into January 2023.

For those hoping that AMD will be cheaper - the 7900XT and XTX are extremely likely to sell out immediately upon launch - and stock levels are also likely to be poor until January 2023 as well.
The problem is that some people think they will get 4080 prices for 3080 cards. It won't happen. Stock of 30xx series cards won't be fully depleted at these prices.

As for AMD, they will likely sell well, but I'm hearing that AIB prices are coming in $200-300 higher than reference designs, putting it at or near the 4080 MSRP. That won't bode well for AMD, if it's true. The whole problem, regardless of manufacturer, is no one wants to spend $1000 on a GPU, or at least the masses don't. Some people will try to buy up stock and resell at a profit. I would not waste money trying that unless you like throwing money out the window.
 

Avro Arrow

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I wasn't talking about the 4080 12GB.

I'm talking about these charts, comparing prices. They don't put the MSRP in for the 3080 12GB:
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I know the official launch of the 3080 12GB, no MSRP was given. The card was just tossed out to the consumer and places priced it over what the 3080 10GB were selling for at retailers, so the 12GB model came in around $1200. They sold fast (like all GPUs at retailers) and were getting scalped $1800+.

Eventually a MSRP was listed for these 3080 12GB at $799. It just bugs me that these graphs don't incorporate that info.
I edited my post to better respond to what you said. My theory is that it's probably a couple of reasons:
1. It makes nVidia look even worse.
2. The amount of 12GB cards sold is most likely a small fraction of the 10GB cards sold.
I've noticed that the Micro Center numbers are slowly dropping. Some stores had easily a hundred plus and now they're trickling down into the 70-60s.

My local Micro Center had 70 cards last week Thursday (according to the webisite) left in stock. Then Friday it showed about 24 in stock. Then Saturday it showed 39 in stock. Then Sunday it showed 13 in stock.
Well, yeah, they're selling but compared to the way video cards have been selling over the past couple of years, they're not selling well. I don't think that nVidia is the least bit surprised. I think this is why they made 130,000 RTX 4090s but only 30,000 RTX 4080s.
Monday it showed 21 in stock.....

I don't know if they just can't count or if they're jerking our legs with their actual inventory on hand, but it keeps fluctuating. I don't know how their numbers went up between Sunday and Monday, because Tuesday is their stock delivery day. They just magically had more?
It's not magic, it's a combination of receiving their standard shipments and also scalpers returning cards that didn't sell within Micro Center's return period. Returns can easily cause their stock levels to rise unexpectedly. I posted a video about it earlier in the thread. Ah, here it is!:
When I looked this morning they had 13 on hand - 13 of Zotac's model that costs $1399.

I take their inventory counts online with a grain of salt. All I know is that they do have some on hand, but exactly how many is anyone's guess.
I agree. There's no way to know for certain.
 
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waclark

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Lol where are the AMD mad haters at? Where are your pitchforks for your overpriced 4080/4070? Lol 71% more for 40% performance from last gen.
Not an AMD hater, but to be fair, the 7900XT and XTX are also overpriced. Sure, they may look better up against the 4080, but seriously $900 and $1,000? Ridiculous prices.
 

Avro Arrow

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You are absolutely right. I can afford whatever computer parts I want whenever I want. but after decades of purchasing SOTA components at inflated prices I’m done. Truth is, my 10900K and 3090 work just fine. Even for my gold standard MSFS2020. The economy is in shambles and unless you’re a billionaire, you should have been hoarding your hard-earned dollars years ago. The market is down, bitcoin is down inflation is up. Have fun using your shiny new 4090 to keep warm this winter. Assuming you can afford the electricity.
The funniest thing about his post is the rant about the "Woke Liberal Brats". I wasn't aware that "Woke Liberal Brats" are the ones buying nVidia cards. I'm a citizen of three NATO countries that aren't the USA and so I would be automatically even more to the left than the "Woke Liberal Brats" that he describes. And yet, I only buy Radeons. Go figure, eh? :laughing:
 

wiyosaya

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The funniest thing about his post is the rant about the "Woke Liberal Brats". I wasn't aware that "Woke Liberal Brats" are the ones buying nVidia cards. I'm a citizen of three NATO countries that aren't the USA and so I would be automatically even more to the left than the "Woke Liberal Brats" that he describes. And yet, I only buy Radeons. Go figure, eh? :laughing:
;) Thanks to @scavengerspc

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TheRealSCDC

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The funniest thing about his post is the rant about the "Woke Liberal Brats". I wasn't aware that "Woke Liberal Brats" are the ones buying nVidia cards. I'm a citizen of three NATO countries that aren't the USA and so I would be automatically even more to the left than the "Woke Liberal Brats" that he describes. And yet, I only buy Radeons. Go figure, eh? :laughing:
Yeah, that was a very ignorant comment that you replied to. nVidia hasn't released a Rainbow 4090 for the woke crowd yet. ;);)
 

McMurdeR

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The funniest thing about his post is the rant about the "Woke Liberal Brats". I wasn't aware that "Woke Liberal Brats" are the ones buying nVidia cards. I'm a citizen of three NATO countries that aren't the USA and so I would be automatically even more to the left than the "Woke Liberal Brats" that he describes. And yet, I only buy Radeons. Go figure, eh?

We're lucky to have such cultural and political geniuses in these forums to steer us all in the right direction! It's so relevent to the question of gaming GPU prices :laughing:
 

Avro Arrow

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We're lucky to have such cultural and political geniuses in these forums to steer us all in the right direction! It's so relevent to the question of gaming GPU prices :laughing:
I know, eh? Some people are just plain obsessed with culture politics. I personally couldn't care less about things like that. I honestly don't understand how it could be such a big deal to someone that they inject it into everything in their lives, regardless of whether or not it's actually relevant. Oh well, the best thing about not caring is realising that it's no skin off my nose.
 

loki1944

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If you value the performance of a 4080 enough to pay $1,200 for it -- possibly because this may relate to your business -- aren't you pretty much guaranteed to be even more interested in the not only higher performing but also higher price/performance ratio 4090 for $1,600?

While I hope Nvidia will conclude $1,200 was too much for the 4080, I fear they'll rather conclude that $1,600 was too little for the 4090.

Hey, we are not in wise man season just yet; pace yourself.
 

TheRealSCDC

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I know, eh? Some people are just plain obsessed with culture politics. I personally couldn't care less about things like that. I honestly don't understand how it could be such a big deal to someone that they inject it into everything in their lives, regardless of whether or not it's actually relevant. Oh well, the best thing about not caring is realising that it's no skin off my nose.
It's all just words. At the end of the day you go to bed, wake up and go back to work. :confused:. It is kind of fun when people take forum posts seriously like it's personal. We are basically all tech geeks from all over the world. I 💕 you all. 👩‍❤️‍👩👨‍❤️‍👨👩‍❤️‍👨 😘. I think that covers all of the types???

Time to go bet bored in WOW.
 

captaincranky

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Well kidz, I know it's well beneath most of your dignities to even consider it. but Newegg has an RTX-3060ti MSI "Ventus"(only 8GB though), on sale today for $430.00 w/ a free Warhammer game.
For $530.00 (after $20.00 rebate), you could have an RTX-3070
 
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