AMD keeps chipping away at Intel's x86 market share as overall sales take a hit

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In context: Intel and AMD saw their revenues drop in recent months as demand for their PC and data center processors remains low. The two companies are optimistic about a gradual recovery towards the end of this year, even as they're both lacking exposure to the current AI boom. It all hinges on inventory corrections and the belief that consumer and enterprise spending will improve by the time the supply chain stabilizes.

By now it's no secret the hardware industry has been struggling in recent months, mostly due to economic uncertainty and low demand for consumer electronics. People in need of a phone or PC upgrade are increasingly turning to refurbished and second-hand options, while new products gather dust on store shelves. Similarly, enterprise IT spending has seen a steady decline over the past several months, with the only products bucking the trend being data center GPUs and AI accelerators.

When in comes to CPU sales, the market decline has been so severe that Intel recently posted its biggest quarterly loss in company history. AMD, who has been eating a growing portion of Intel's lunch for the past two years, has fared better in comparison to Team Blue. Still, it too has seen a significant drop-off in processor sales in recent months, particularly when it comes to Zen 4 models.

However, analysts at Mercury Research and Counterpoint believe the market will gradually recover in the second half of this year as both Intel and AMD have been undershipping demand to help the PC market burn through existing inventory. For AMD, the decision to restrict supply was also matter of keeping CPU prices high for a while longer, as Team Red controls a rather modest 19.2 percent share of the desktop processor market and just 16.2 percent of the notebook CPU one.

It's worth noting that firms like Mercury Research base their numbers on data from suppliers, meaning they don't accurately reflect what happens at retail. It's a similar story with server processors, where data from ODMs suggests AMD is still chipping away at Intel's market share, going from 11.6 percent in Q1 2022 to 18 percent in the first quarter of 2023.

A separate report from semiconductor analyst Sravan Kundojjala based on Intel and AMD's financial reports paints a similar picture. When it comes to revenue share, Intel seems to have clawed back what it lost in the desktop and notebook markets in recent years, while AMD keeps making gains in the sever space.

Both companies face an increasing threat from Arm and RISC-V. Arm-based SoCs are expected to capture one quarter of the laptop market by 2027, and companies like Microsoft, Google, Amazon, and Facebook are all working on custom Arm-based silicon for their data center needs. Meanwhile, companies like Tencent and Alibaba have enlisted to help China develop homegrown chips and reduce the need for x86 and Arm products and insulate from the effects of US sanctions.

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"supply chain stabilizes"

No, rly? We 've been hearing about this since, uh, 2019 when COVID-19 first went public and the necro-march of Bergamo, Italy, happened when army trucks were carrying the dead people.

It's almost 5 years later since 2019 and the "Chain" still hasn't stabilized? Really?

Can someone at AMD or Intel tell us how many decades it's gonna take for the "Chain" to stabilize?

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People in need of a phone or PC upgrade are increasingly turning to refurbished and second-hand options
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Also this. Rly?

When my iphone 6 gave up the ghost on or abt Nov 22 I was in China and I went out and bought myself a "Redmi 10A" from a local store for $100. It was the best $100 I ever spent and I will never be going back to iphone and Apple.

To think that ppl are buying "refurbished" when they can buy a 2022 model Redmi 10A for just $100 is beyond me.

So yeah, I own a commie phone now but I'll be damned if I am gonna pay Apple $2k for a smartphone.
 
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"supply chain stabilizes"

No, rly? We 've been hearing about this since, uh, 2019 when COVID-19 first went public and the necro-march of Bergamo, Italy, happened when army trucks were carrying the dead people.

It's almost 5 years later since 2019 and the "Chain" still hasn't stabilized? Really?

Can someone at AMD or Intel tell us how many decades it's gonna take for the "Chain" to stabilize?

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People in need of a phone or PC upgrade are increasingly turning to refurbished and second-hand options
UNQUOTE

Also this. Rly?

When my iphone 6 gave up the ghost on or abt Nov 22 I was in China and I went out and bought myself a "Redmi 10A" from a local store for $100. It was the best $100 I ever spent and I will never be going back to iphone and Apple.

To think that ppl are buying "refurbished" when they can buy a 2022 model Redmi 10A for just $100 is beyond me.

So yeah, I own a commie phone now but I'll be damned if I am gonna pay Apple $2k for a smartphone.
you can buy a used Samsung flagship for $300, that's what I do. I love my S21+ and I paid like $320 or something for it
 
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My speculation is that a lot of individuals and businesses splashed out with workstation, laptop, and mobile device purchases during the pandemic as they could justify the expense for WFH and other remote application tasks - along with various tax breaks and subsidies during the period. These consumers are only just hitting around the 2-year mark and, combined with general inflation, don’t feel any pressure to upgrade just yet. Meanwhile those who are overdue for an upgrade are baulking at the steep price rises for equivalent-tier tech and voting with their wallets in the lower pricing tier or refurb. And don’t forget the trade tariffs in US/China. So this slump is probably a ‘correction’ to the 2021-22 market anomaly playing badly with inflation.
 
Makes sense. My 5950X is a beast and only gets better with newer BIOS releases and chipset drivers.

But I will say this about AMD GPUs... they are crippled. I finally switched back to Nvidia and the 4070 FE just flat out-performs without breaking a sweat! I'm set for the next 6 years and was happy to pay a measly 599 to get a card that doesn't glitch and doesn't tear @ 2k on a 32 inch gaming monitor.
 
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"supply chain stabilizes"

No, rly? We 've been hearing about this since, uh, 2019 when COVID-19 first went public and the necro-march of Bergamo, Italy, happened when army trucks were carrying the dead people.

It's almost 5 years later since 2019 and the "Chain" still hasn't stabilized? Really?

Can someone at AMD or Intel tell us how many decades it's gonna take for the "Chain" to stabilize?

QUOTE
People in need of a phone or PC upgrade are increasingly turning to refurbished and second-hand options
UNQUOTE

Also this. Rly?

When my iphone 6 gave up the ghost on or abt Nov 22 I was in China and I went out and bought myself a "Redmi 10A" from a local store for $100. It was the best $100 I ever spent and I will never be going back to iphone and Apple.

To think that ppl are buying "refurbished" when they can buy a 2022 model Redmi 10A for just $100 is beyond me.

So yeah, I own a commie phone now but I'll be damned if I am gonna pay Apple $2k for a smartphone.

oh I bought that redmi (4gb ram and 128gb for data ) at 100€... quite a good phone for my needs I'd say
 
Makes sense. My 5890X is a beast and only gets better with newer BIOS releases and chipset drivers.

But I will say this about AMD GPUs... they are crippled. I finally switched back to Nvidia and the 4070 FE just flat out-performs without breaking a sweat! I'm set for the next 6 years and was happy to pay a measly 599 to get a card that doesn't glitch and doesn't tear @ 2k on a 32 inch gaming monitor.
ive had more bad experiences with nvidia than amd
 
The root problem is, GPUs aside, we really don't need any more performance power out of CPUs. Even my now aged 8700k is perfectly capable of keeping my 3080Ti fed; where is the incentive for me to update my entire platform?

The days of constantly having to upgrade to keep up with performance, GPUs aside, are long-gone.
 
The root problem is, GPUs aside, we really don't need any more performance power out of CPUs. Even my now aged 8700k is perfectly capable of keeping my 3080Ti fed; where is the incentive for me to update my entire platform?

The days of constantly having to upgrade to keep up with performance, GPUs aside, are long-gone.
I have a Haswell based Xeon E3-1230 that is fine for SoHo/School needs so there's no reason to toss it since it still works. Combine with a late 1060 with the full DX12 support and it's a solid winner for games up through 2019 and at that point, it's at least 5 years old.
 
I have a Haswell based Xeon E3-1230 that is fine for SoHo/School needs so there's no reason to toss it since it still works. Combine with a late 1060 with the full DX12 support and it's a solid winner for games up through 2019 and at that point, it's at least 5 years old.
Two years ago I was still running a 2600k; was showing its age but wasn't too much of a limiting factor, until the motherboard gave up the ghost.
 
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