Bill Gates thinks Elon Musk should keep his Coronavirus comments to himself

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Beerfloat

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Except covid is airborne it's been proven, covid also comes out as an aresol that can longer inside unclosed spaces for up to 2 hours and is circulated by air conditioners, or did you miss that information a few weeks ago. Your best chance to contract it prior to masking was indoors in a shopping area or other indoor location with people, that's still true, and a cloth mask is unable to filter airesiols. Stop listening to figureheads and start listening to actual doctors in the field.

Masks serve the same purpose a placebo does to a hypocondiact. Aka it makes you feel better, with minimal effort but is mostly useless.
Yes, there is strong evidence of aerosol transmission. Which in no way invalidates masks as one of the most useful tools we have for slowing direct person to person infections. This is a numbers game. We don't stop policing just because we can't prevent all crime. We don't stop wearing seat belts just because people still do get injured in car crashes.

On a personal note, I don't know why you people keep coming up with new reasons why you're justified in not doing your part and masking up. You're not a rebel heart free thinker. You're not a unique snowflake. If you don't give a damn about other people, why not just own it?
 
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you shouldn't use them for long periods of time as the significantly reduce oxygen levels
Here is another laughable example of the dimmer of opinions.

But the good news is we can very easily let them put their money where their poopy filled mouth is:

Pulse Oximeter

This simply clips to the finger and examines the blood for oxygen levels. They work well, I have had one since I was hit by a drunk driver years ago and my respiratory system and the right lung was badly damaged.

Just let the whiny lint ball test their oxygen levels (takes a few seconds), put on their mask, wait just a few minutes and test again.

Presto! Instant fraud detector.
 

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Yes, there is strong evidence of aerosol transmission. Which in no way invalidates masks as one of the most useful tools we have for slowing direct person to person infections. This is a numbers game. We don't stop policing just because we can't prevent all crime. We don't stop wearing seat belts just because people still do get injured in car crashes.

On a personal note, I don't know why you people keep coming up with new reasons why you're justified in not doing your part and masking up. You're not a rebel heart free thinker. You're not a unique snowflake. If you don't give a damn about other people, why not just own it?
Because I see it for what it is, because of a previous job I've got a few personal friends that are doctors and nurses and call these measures bullshit made to make people feel safe with zero other benefit. I think I'll trust doctors I know, one even sent me the video for America's front line doctors and told me to pay attention because they are telling the truth. But hey you guys go ahead and listen to msm and two people being paid quite well by big pharma for your advice on this.
 

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Because I see it for what it is, because of a previous job I've got a few personal friends that are doctors and nurses and call these measures bullshit made to make people feel safe with zero other benefit. I think I'll trust doctors I know, one even sent me the video for America's front line doctors and told me to pay attention because they are telling the truth. But hey you guys go ahead and listen to msm and two people being paid quite well by big pharma for your advice on this.
She and her superiors would like the name of those Doctors and Nurses who told you the things you claim. And they would like to see the video. Just PM me the info.

I was also asked to ask you something. They all wear a mask in the COVID ward.
Are you claiming that there would have been no more infections among health care workers than there have been if they all took the masks off from the start?
 

candle_86

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So link to the video or put it on youtube.

And a side note, my Daughter in Law is a CC nurse and I sent this to her. She said you are "full of ****".

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She and her superiors would like the name of those Doctors and Nurses who told you the things you claim. And they would like to see the video. Just PM me the info.

I was also asked to ask you something. They all wear a mask in the COVID ward.
Are you claiming that there would be no more infections among health care workers if they all took the masks off?
YouTube took down the video because they are bought and paid for by the DNC. As for names that's a nope, I don't provide names of anyone to lefties I prefer if people remain unharassed. For for in a hospital they are wearing n95, if they arnt again it's useless, so yes if they arnt wearing the n95 masks, the doctors not the patients infection rates would be high in a hospital, kind of like they already are.

There is a link to a site that did a local upload of the summit. Those are actual doctors
 

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This is where I stand.
I like trucks too. I have a 2019 Ram 2500 4x4 with a 6.4 Hemi. I haven't had a diesel since my early 20s though. Do me a favor though Cliff, if I ever seem to think I'm cool because I can make a lot of diesel smoke please have me committed. I won't fight back I swear.

And as far as most of the things he "don't git". I'm not surprised.
 
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Are you serious? I mean, all of it. Are you ****ing serious?
This may be the dumbest damned post I have ever seen.

Does an Architect have to educate an "A+ microbiology student" in the basics of particle\molecule properties and how masking works? Something I know very little about. Though obviously more than you.

You, candle_86, and Musk should go on tour. America needs more laughter.
You have my vote. I stop commenting because moderator deleted my posts about the people you reported above, while they can still spread dangerous misinformation.
Mr. No_one on a forum commenting about Dr.Fauci competence is exhilarating
In another article he was smarter than Apple engineers, while here he’s smarter than a virologist. He must be a genius.
 
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He must be a genius.
They are all a self-described genius. They have videos that they cant show, people who are proof of their opinions that cant be named, and farts that need to be sniffed with a completely new view of bad smells and how we all perceive them. It's almost like the less they know the facts the better they feel about themselves and their own opinions. I guess ignorance is bliss.

It's important for all of us to remember that they don't hate Gates for what he said, they hate him for what he knows. I respect Elon Musk for so many things but he is on the wrong side of science on this and nobody gives a damn if he knows it or not but when he starts spewing his ignorant garbage he is influencing these people who are already so easily led around by the nose. They aren't looking for the facts, or the truth. They are looking for words that give them comfort and confidence in their own lack of knowledge.
 
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Are you for real? You're not inhaling 'fecal matter' when you smell a fart. You're detecting that special mix of molecules of hydrogen sulfide, methane, ammonia and a handful of other lovely gases produced in the lower intestines.

We don't all have to wear gas masks to slow the spread of COVID, however. ANY cover that prevents or slows down a substantial portion of the virus loaded respiratory droplets that leave a person's mouth when breathing or talking from traveling quite as far is much, much better than nothing. And those droplets are an order of scale larger than your fart molecules.
Wow you didn't pass microbiology did you. Maybe watch this episode and it will help you.

 

Beerfloat

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Wow you didn't pass microbiology did you. Maybe watch this episode and it will help you.

Yeah, toilets spray water when flushed. The video mentions 'tiny droplets' and shows how a piece of paper stretched over the toilet catches them.

I get it. When you say 'farts' you don't mean the regular anal gas ventilation that other people associate with the word. You're actually thinking about 'explosive diarrhoea'.

Which, coincidentally, is also a pretty good description for the totally confused nonsense that is your contribution to this topic.
 

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They are all a self-described genius. They have videos that they cant show, people who are proof of their opinions that cant be named, and farts that need to be sniffed with a completely new view of bad smells and how we all perceive them. It's almost like the less they know the facts the better they feel about themselves and their own opinions. I guess ignorance is bliss.

It's important for all of us to remember that they don't hate Gates for what he said, they hate him for what he knows. I respect Elon Musk for so many things but he is on the wrong side of science on this and nobody gives a damn if he knows it or not but when he starts spewing his ignorant garbage he is influencing these people who are already so easily led around by the nose. They aren't looking for the facts, or the truth. They are looking for words that give them comfort and confidence in their own lack of knowledge.
No there are plenty of real doctors and scientists that don't support your narrative. Everyone saying mask up and hcq doesn't work is invested into a pharmacutical company currently working on a "cure". You can't trust the WHO organization as they have actively worked to suppress information about it's origins. Follow the money, gates stands to make billions more from this "vaccine". I myself will refuse it and so will a large percentage of this country because it's not necessary, because we already have working treatments for it. As I've said turn off CNN and maybe open your mind, your trusting the people with an financial incentive to make sure only their cure is allowed to exist and be used.
 

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No there are plenty of real doctors and scientists that don't support your narrative. Everyone saying mask up and hcq doesn't work is invested into a pharmacutical company currently working on a "cure". You can't trust the WHO organization as they have actively worked to suppress information about it's origins. Follow the money, gates stands to make billions more from this "vaccine". I myself will refuse it and so will a large percentage of this country because it's not necessary, because we already have working treatments for it. As I've said turn off CNN and maybe open your mind, your trusting the people with an financial incentive to make sure only their cure is allowed to exist and be used.
What's so ironic to me is that hydroxychloroquine is the very poster child of treatments pushed for financial incentives rather than efficacy in treating COVID-19.

The likes of the US, UK and Brazil have stocked up on millions of doses of hcq that won't ever end up being used. You almost can't help but admire the salesmen who conjured up this swindle, and then made swaths of people make it a point of pride to defend them.
 

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As I've said turn off CNN and maybe open your mind
What has CNN said that was untrue and didnt correct? Please tell me that.
Everyone saying mask up and hcq doesn't work is invested into a pharmacutical company

And please don't lay down and start kicking your feet about the source. The source is tRUMPS testing czar Dr Brett Giroir. How much do you think he has invested in big pharma?
I myself will refuse it and so will a large percentage of this country
That will be a benefit to the entire Country, hopefully sooner than later
maybe open your mind
Coming from you that statement is like a Looney Toon cartoon
 
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What's so ironic to me is that hydroxychloroquine is the very poster child of treatments pushed for financial incentives rather than efficacy in treating COVID-19.

The likes of the US, UK and Brazil have stocked up on millions of doses of hcq that won't ever end up being used. You almost can't help but admire the salesmen who conjured up this swindle, and then made swaths of people make it a point of pride to defend them.
Look at how it works and the science, hcq combined with zinc relaxes the lung muscles preventing them from becoming hard and unable to contract and expand meaning you stay alive because you can breath, while the z pack literally causes an aggressive immune response. That's why it's being used. Viruses don't have cures, they have treatments, there is a reason for seasonal flu and seasonal colds, the virus mutates and we can't devolope a cure, covid has multiple mutations the efforts need to be directed at management of symptoms and treatments to manage the worst effects. This cure won't ever happen, but it's ok if Biden wins on November 3rd the lockdowns will end, and we will forget all about covid and get on with our life, like Europe already is, they are managing the symptoms as they are smart enough to realize that's what you do. But the CDC, the FDA, and Bill Gates want to make sure at least a million Americans die so they can blame it on Trump, their goal is death.
 

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What has CNN said that was untrue and didnt correct? Please tell me that.


And please don't lay down and start kicking your feet about the source. The source is tRUMPS testing czar Dr Brett Giroir. How much do you think he has invested in big pharma?

That will be a benefit to the entire Country, hopefully sooner than later

Coming from you that statement is like a Looney Toon cartoon
CNN is still touting a retracted hcq study as facts, and CNN does daily retractions, 90% of their "reporting" is opinion pieces, their journalistic integrity is an absolute joke. The best thing that could happen to CNN is for musk to buy them and demands they use reputable sources from more than one biased lab.
 

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Look at how it works and the science, hcq combined with zinc relaxes the lung muscles preventing them from becoming hard and unable to contract and expand meaning you stay alive because you can breath, while the z pack literally causes an aggressive immune response. That's why it's being used. Viruses don't have cures, they have treatments, there is a reason for seasonal flu and seasonal colds, the virus mutates and we can't devolope a cure, covid has multiple mutations the efforts need to be directed at management of symptoms and treatments to manage the worst effects. This cure won't ever happen, but it's ok if Biden wins on November 3rd the lockdowns will end, and we will forget all about covid and get on with our life, like Europe already is, they are managing the symptoms as they are smart enough to realize that's what you do. But the CDC, the FDA, and Bill Gates want to make sure at least a million Americans die so they can blame it on Trump, their goal is death.
In Europe we are wearing masks, we had a real lockdown and we are not using fake treatments suggested by a funny man living in the White House

In US virus is still growing after 4 months thanks to people like you and your beloved President. Do your maths
 
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CNN is still touting a retracted hcq study as facts
In fact, tRUMP is one of very few that still push for that useless treatment.
The Henry Ford clinic did their hydroxychloroquine tests with corticosteroids, which is being used all over the world already for COVID 19 treatment.

But the CDC, the FDA, and Bill Gates want to make sure at least a million Americans die so they can blame it on Trump, their goal is death.
Look everyone, it the Boogieman!
 

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Look at how it works and the science, hcq combined with zinc relaxes the lung muscles preventing them from becoming hard and unable to contract and expand meaning you stay alive because you can breath, while the z pack literally causes an aggressive immune response. That's why it's being used. Viruses don't have cures, they have treatments, there is a reason for seasonal flu and seasonal colds, the virus mutates and we can't devolope a cure, covid has multiple mutations the efforts need to be directed at management of symptoms and treatments to manage the worst effects. This cure won't ever happen, but it's ok if Biden wins on November 3rd the lockdowns will end, and we will forget all about covid and get on with our life, like Europe already is, they are managing the symptoms as they are smart enough to realize that's what you do. But the CDC, the FDA, and Bill Gates want to make sure at least a million Americans die so they can blame it on Trump, their goal is death.
Uh huh. So, what is pretty clear is YOUR goal is to keep making stuff up as you go along as you continue to try to make facts fit your world view.

Your arguments are a patchwork of anecdotal random noise with such a complete lack of any kind of comprehensive line of reasoning to them that I can only assume it must be by design.

So I'll leave it at addressing two particularly outrageous statements.

Firstly, the one about viruses not having cures. Are smallpox and polio still a big concern among people in your peer group? Because I can happily inform you that the rest of the civilized world has really enjoyed the benefit of seeing these crippling diseases almost completely eradicated.

The second one is about those smart Europeans you mentioned, or the very people TOTALLY NOT BOTHERING with the distraction of hydroxychloroquine and instead focusing on treatments that have actual promise.
 
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