Okay, here is the deal, after that my computer has worked completley flawlessley in Win2K for several months it has now given up on me, I was writing a ATI Radeon driver comparsion but when I came to the last driver the comp said no, read on for a more technical explanation As I said I was running benchmarks on my computer, both Direct3D and OpenGL testing ATI's drivers, but all of a sudden Direct3D refused to work! OpenGL works perfectly fine, but as soon as I try to start up a D3D game the program or computer either hangs or the game is totally unplayable, like Max Payne for example, the camera "locks of" from m.r Payne and just flies around as it likes... Ok, I thought, I'll just reformat then, said and done, I formatted and reinstalled Win2K, only installing in this order: Win2K (obviously), VIA 4in1438(2)v(a) DirectX 8.1, and the ATI display drivers (after a while tried out several different versions with complete reinstalls of Win2K inbetween) And the result was exactly the same as before, D3D didn't work but OpenGL did... Ok I thought, nice to have a change from the hardware problems between the ATI 8500 and Epox 8KHA+ mobo I had a few months ago atleast, because this clearly has to be a software bug... Then I tried WinXP, installed it just as Win2K with the same drivers, same story then... Then I thought that it might be my DirectX install file that is corrupt so I used another one from a PC Gamer cd, same story... Ok, then I thoguht have I done all this I might just as well try the worst pice of *** OS over created, so I installed Win98, the VIA drivers, DirectX 8.1a and the new(est) ATI display drivers (tried old ones to) and then the darn thing worked! It runs Direct3D without a problem for hours! And now I've run into another problem in Win2K, after a few hours of MP3 playing the sound hangs... This problem is not there in Win98SE... Well well, if anyone is able to help me solve this problem I'm gonna give you a wet kiss (no wait, that was almost a threat, well I'll owe you one) My hardware configuartion is the following: FIC AN17 KT333 mainboard (which I should have done a review of had it not been for this darn bug...) 256MB Twinmos PC2100 DDR-SDRAM (In the review of the Epox 8KHA+ mobo I brought this memory to 185mhz at fastest memory timings...) AMD Athlon XP 1700+ Palomino CPU (green cpu package; like it matters ) Built by ATI, ATI Radeon 8500 RETAIL 275/275 core/mem clock speed SB Live! 5.1 soundcard connected to a DTT 3500 speaketr system via the digital output... Realtek RTL8139A LAN card Dual Maxtor D740X-FDB 20GB HDD's connected to the onboard Promise RAID controller in RAID-0 mode Pioneer 16X DVD player connected as lone master on the mainboards IDE connectors... 1,44mb floppy Enermax 430w power-supply The CPU and GFX card are watercooled, the watercooling for the GFX card is made by me tm with the help of a CNC mill... All this is inside an ugly midi tower Aopen ATX case from 1463 oh, almost forgot, the mouse is a $ Explorer Intellimouse (first one, not 3.0...) sitting ontop a RATPADZ mouse-pad The keyboard has been bought at a supermarket about 50km from here called Ge-kås (just testing if you are reading this) Yea, that's right, I'm looking at something to, they say it's a Eizo Flexscan F57 17" monitor, yup, an old trusty CRT monitor Yea right, there is also a flower standing quite colse to the computer, might that be the cause of my problems perhaps?