First US road that charges electric vehicles while they drive will be ready next year

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captaincranky

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You're doing it again Cap. ;)
You are dismissing tech because it doesn't make sense right now.
Perhaps, but there are certain laws of physics that can't be overcome. Wishes and hopes don't always align with what's possible or practical.

As with all things experimental, some come to fruition, others are destined for the trash heap. Thus, (obviously IMHO), is one for the dust bin.

Unless you're going to tell me that all of a sudden, we're going to be able to run a single 12 gauge wire down the middle of the road and charge off of that, this is a nixie..

So, as a cost versus practicality consideration, this one's a loser. Call me "old fashioned" if you must

If you consider the lack of success Biden had in getting his 3 trillion dollar "build back better plan", approved, this is definitely dead in the water.
 

TheRealSCDC

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You're doing it again Cap. ;)
You are dismissing tech because it doesn't make sense right now.

Not to mention if it wasn't possible or suffered from problems that couldn't be solved they wouldn't be building it.

No, he's dismissing tech that makes absolutely no sense. Who is going to pay for all of this? It's not the government, It's every working person in the USA who pays taxes.

I've had it with both Republicans and Democrats passing all of these bills giving away our money. Neither party is worth the value of cow sh*t. Bunch of old f*ckers or young dipsh*t progressives that have no clue.
 

TheRealSCDC

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Perhaps, but there are certain laws of physics that can't be overcome. Wishes and hopes don't always align with what's possible or practical.

As with all things experimental, some come to fruition, others are destined for the trash heap. Thus, (obviously IMHO), is one for the dust bin.

Unless you're going to tell me that all of a sudden, we're going to be able to run a single 12 gauge wire down the middle of the road and charge off of that, this is a nixie..

So, as a cost versus practicality consideration, this one's a loser. Call me "old fashioned" if you must

If you consider the lack of success Biden had in getting his 3 trillion dollar "build back better plan", approved, this is definitely dead in the water.
Biden's build back better was ridden with social agenda spending. Neither party knows how to create and pass a bill with a single line item. They pack them full of "party favors".
 

scavengerspc

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No, he's dismissing tech that makes absolutely no sense.
It makes no sense to you. Not to those who hath understanding.
I read (devoured) everything I could when I came across Tubors article here, and in 5-6 hours I can see what the problems will likely be and how they might be rectified in the future. You complained.

Neither party knows how to create and pass a bill with a single line item.
It's a good message, but you would be taken seriously if you didn't whine about it only when the "other" party is in charge.
 

TheRealSCDC

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It makes no sense to you. Not to those who hath understanding.
I read (devoured) everything I could when I came across Tubors article here, and in 5-6 hours I can see what the problems will likely be and how they might be rectified in the future. You complained.


It's a good message, but you would be taken seriously if you didn't whine about it only when the "other" party is in charge.
I clearly stated both party's do this and I dislike it. I dislike all of this "green" spending that hasn't been put towards "green". Look where the money is going, follow the money.
 

captaincranky

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Not to those who hath understanding.
"Hath", really? While we set about to set back technology, you're going to set about setting English back a few hundred years? :p

I thought I was the only person here to be pretentious enough to try and get away with something like that,

Take caution, lest ye anger me. "Hell hath no fury like that of a Cranky scorned"..
 
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scavengerspc

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"Hath", really? While we set about to set back technology, you're going to set about setting English back a few hundred years? :p
You Hath to respond to it, didn't you. :)
Please allow me to refer you both to Iron Maiden. "The number of the Beast".
I post like that all the time, :D so how did you guys miss that one?!

Maybe it was just a lack of context though.

"Let him who hath understanding reckon the number of the beast.
For it is a human number"
 

scavengerspc

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Heretofore I hast thought that the "number of the beast was "666". No? Besides, "Iron Maiden" is a smidgen above my metal tolerance threshold.
It is. I just cut it down.

"Woe to you, oh earth and sea
For the Devil sends the beast with wrath
Because he knows the time is short
Let him who hath understanding reckon the number of the beast
For it is a human number
Its number is six hundred and sixty-six"
 

TheRealSCDC

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Please allow me to refer you both to Iron Maiden. "The number of the Beast".
I post like that all the time, :D so how did you guys miss that one?!

Maybe it was just a lack of context though.

"Let him who hath understanding reckon the number of the beast.
For it is a human number"
I'm an old Fart. When running it'll be 80's dance, 70's rock, or even techno. Sometimes I've had some of my best segments listening to Classical.

I've never been a fan of heavy metal, rap or country. But, that's what makes the world go round. Different tastes.

I've gotten to like reading your posts and Cranky a$$. At least you don't sugar coat your messages. That's how I like it. Say what's on your mind.

Cheers.
 

scavengerspc

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I'm an old Fart. When running it'll be 80's dance, 70's rock, or even techno. Sometimes I've had some of my best segments listening to Classical.

I've never been a fan of heavy metal, rap or country. But, that's what makes the world go round. Different tastes.

I've gotten to like reading your posts and Cranky a$$. At least you don't sugar coat your messages. That's how I like it. Say what's on your mind.

Cheers.
Well since we are getting all mushy ;) You are one of the few members on the right that I very much respect because when I post things that counter (or don't) what you say, you don't just disappear. I mean that too. It's refreshing.

As far as music, I like most variants of rock music and I also like old funk and soul (NOT Disco) but not a lot of anything new comes out obviously, so I have a ton of CDs and MP3s of music that was before my time. Or when I was very young.

(y) (Y)
 

TheRealSCDC

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Well since we are getting all mushy ;) You are one of the few members on the right that I very much respect because when I post things that counter (or don't) what you say, you don't just disappear. I mean that too. It's refreshing.

As far as music, I like most variants of rock music and I also like old funk and soul (NOT Disco) but not a lot of anything new comes out obviously, so I have a ton of CDs and MP3s of music that was before my time. Or when I was very young.

(y) (Y)
I don't know what to do with all of my Ultimix vinyl records I've had in storage since the 80's and 90's when I DJ'd. Like you, I tend to still hold on to "physical" media. Back when we all thought Napster was OK to use :party:. Hell, I dug out a Obsidian 3dfx card while cleaning up my closet that sold for $800 bucks last week on eBay. My wife bitches and moans about my "stuff", but when something like that happens she says "great, I can buy this now" đź’”

On another note, this is exactly why the US has gone in the dumps. Nobody has ears anymore. Won't listen to other views. It's like some sort of horror sci-fi film where people have their ears amputated.
 

scavengerspc

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I don't know what to do with all of my Ultimix vinyl records I've had in storage since the 80's and 90's when I DJ'd. Like you, I tend to still hold on to "physical" media. Back when we all thought Napster was OK to use :party:. Hell, I dug out a Obsidian 3dfx card while cleaning up my closet that sold for $800 bucks last week on eBay. My wife bitches and moans about my "stuff", but when something like that happens she says "great, I can buy this now" đź’”
I had to do a search on Ultimix. I didn't know what the hell you meant! :D :facepalm:

I love old tech and even though I'm no pack rat I have almost every bit of tech I have owned for over 2 decades. I even have one of the first Roku boxes and all my previous gaming laptops and desktops. I keep wanting to sell\donate stuff, but I still haven't done a thing about it.
On another note, this is exactly why the US has gone in the dumps. Nobody has ears anymore. Won't listen to other views. It's like some sort of horror sci-fi film where people have their ears amputated.
We should all start talking only in bars and restaurants. We can argue, make our points, then go back to making fun of everyone else.
You know. The good ole days.
 

AlaskaGuy

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No, he's dismissing tech that makes absolutely no sense. Who is going to pay for all of this? It's not the government, It's every working person in the USA who pays taxes.

I've had it with both Republicans and Democrats passing all of these bills giving away our money. Neither party is worth the value of cow sh*t. Bunch of old f*ckers or young dipsh*t progressives that have no clue.
 

Karlos95

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People (Homo sapiens), always want the "best way" to be their way, and they don't care, or even give a thought, to how much it would cost, or how it would affect others. This tendency has been listed under the "7 deadly sins". Look up "greed".
Ok.
Actually, in Europe (especially Germany, France, etc) a lot of people use trains to go to work. They drive for like 5 minutes from home to the nearest train station, jump into the train, and then spend around 30 minutes traveling by fast train. When they reach their destination, usually a bigger city, they switch to the local transportation (subway or tram) for the last part of the trip.

Considering that train travels at around 300 km/h (186 mph) they come to the destination faster. And they can even take a nap during those 30 minutes.

It just shows it's a completely viable and practical way of travel, as long as your local oil corporations don't finance gangs to attack people in subways and trains, in order to increase gasoline consumption. Which in Europe didn't happen.
Yes, would work in a well planned out country. But where I am from (Australia) that wouldn't work. We live on the coast line mainly, so most roads go up and down the coast, so getting to the other side of the country would have to go around the coast. And not only that, as soon as you get to a train station (20mins away from me) it would take a good 30 - 40mins to get into Sydney and then an extra 30 mins finding a taxi to get to work. If I drove from where I am into Sydney it'd take 1hr30m.


Before I read your comment I literally just got done watching this article about Australia discussing this issue in America. Perfect Timing ;-)

That is Murdoch crap. Most Aussies don't watch mainstream media any more cause it is run by the Liberal (Equiv of your Republicans) propaganda racket that is Murdoch.
Our Labor party just won Government (Your democrats) despite the extreme media bias over here.
Feels like that have done more for the country in the last 2 weeks than the Liberal's have done in the last 9 they have been in power.
 

captaincranky

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Now consider the cost of adding charging coils, and electric generation to the already staggering cost of highway construction, and it becomes clear that thus "car charging highway" is an absolute non starter.

It's a, "green pipe dream".

But I guess if you snort enough coke anything seems possible, and you can talk plenty of other people into it
 

scavengerspc

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Now consider the cost of adding charging coils, and electric generation to the already staggering cost of highway construction, and it becomes clear that thus "car charging highway" is an absolute non starter.

It's a, "green pipe dream".

But I guess if you snort enough coke anything seems possible, and you can talk plenty of other people into it
Ok Cap no more. So here is my take. It's not being built to be cost-effective. It's not expected to make sense, and it's not expected to save the world.
It's one freaking mile long! It's a project to test out the tech currently available.
They will learn from this and the aim is to perfect it. Early humans left the trees to explore a few million years ago and have been moving forward ever since.

Playing it safe is for wusses.
 

captaincranky

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Ok Cap no more. So here is my take. It's not being built to be cost-effective. It's not expected to make sense, and it's not expected to save the world.
This is one of those, "it seemed like a good idea at the time", scams. (IMO, of course).

There is a lot of hysteria and panic at present with regard to climate change, global warming., destroying wildlife habitats, and so forth.

I can't help but lump this into a group of things that, "seemed like a good idea at the time".. Although these might seem like extreme comparisons, consider investing in "Star Citizen", NFTs, flying cars, and the like, as prime examples.

Truth be told, pulling electric wires over.existing highways for electric trucks to charge as they go, (again IMO), is a far better solution, both with respect to cost, and efficiency of transferring electricity as needed..If you run out of electrified territory, you just retract the pantograph, and party on without interruption. Plus, you don't have to build an entire road over, just throw up some poles and wires, and you're done.

Inventors tend to be mono-manically affected with their creations, with an inability, or unwillingness, to see the downsides, while others are flat out scam artists. In the back of their minds has to lay the thought look how rich this will make me, (or us, in the corporate sense).. If something like this doesn't pan out, they'll just pocket the money they made, and move on to the next, "green scheme". And the public's state of mind, is ripe and ready for the next big thing, that will save us from ourselves.

Never underestimate how gullible people are. Consider poor Donald Trump getting the 2020 election stolen out from under him. 65% of 75 million still believe that, heart and soul.

In other news, karma is a b!tch. "Dr.Oz" and Dave McCormick were locked in a dead heat in the Republican primary for senator from PA. McCormick claimed that if some improperly dated mail in ballots were allowed to be counted, he still had the numerical possibility of winning. Talk about hypocrisy with regard to mail in voting. And......SCOTUS pretty much told him to fu*k off. As badly screwed up as Trump has left our supreme court, it's nice to see that it still clings to established legal principles like, "what's sauce for the goose, is sauce for the gander".
 
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