Ford made a one-off Mustang Mach-E with seven motors and 1,400 HP

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In brief: Ford said the Mustang Mach-E 1400 was designed in collaboration with RTR, an automotive company that makes performance packages for Ford vehicles. The two invested some 10,000 hours into the project in hopes of “bridging the gap between what an electric vehicle can do and what customers tend to believe it can do.”

Not to be outdone by its own Cobra Jet 1400 that was announced earlier this year, Ford on Tuesday unveiled a prototype Mustang Mach-E 1400 that packs no less than seven electric motors.

The one-off project was designed to demonstrate the sort of performance that can be derived from an electric propulsion system (not that we had any questions about their capabilities up to this point). The prototype apparently hasn’t hit the dyno yet although Ford said it is projected to lay down more than 1,400 horsepower.

Ford’s promo video does leave a bit to be desired as it doesn’t really tell us much about the vehicle’s actual performance or how it stacks up to its conventional gas-powered counterparts; it’s largely just a compilation of slow-motion shots and clips of the prototype roasting the tires.

The multi-purpose vehicle features multiple aerodynamics and power delivery optimizations to accommodate everything from high-speed track racing to drifting.

The all-electric Mustang Mach-E was announced late last year and according to early indications, could be a hit with consumers. It is expected to hit US streets by the end of the year.

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Uncle Al

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At QP .... you've hit the nail on the head but I'm hearing that the market wants something that is under $30K that doesn't have or need all the bells and whistles. I say that because the "market" now is comprised of many college grads with mountains of debt from school and need something more economic .....
 
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Gomos

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The market doesn't want another electric missile drag racer.

The market wants cars the size of the Model 3 and Model Y with 300 - 400 mile ranges that don't cost so much more than $50,000.
Those are still way too expensive, we need electric cars for less than $30,000
 
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candle_86

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The market doesn't want another electric missile drag racer.

The market wants cars the size of the Model 3 and Model Y with 300 - 400 mile ranges that don't cost so much more than $50,000.
Wrong I want something with a 3-400 mile range able to fully recharge in under 5 minutes that also uses user serviceable components. Until then electric is junk.
 
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Axiarus

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At QP .... you've hit the nail on the head but I'm hearing that the market wants something that is under $30K that doesn't have or need all the bells and whistles. I say that because the "market" now is comprised of many college grads with mountains of debt from school and need something more economic .....
Id love an electric Corolla.
 

Axiarus

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Wrong I want something with a 3-400 mile range able to fully recharge in under 5 minutes that also uses user serviceable components. Until then electric is junk.
The age of working on your own car has long passed. Newer cars come with more and more crap that I, and many people, just don't want to deal with. You are also not going to charge a huge car battery in five min. 30 min is not terrible for a charge. Go in a store to shop and be full once you are done. 300 mile range is fine for an electric car. Most people do not go on road trips every week.
 
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Adhmuz

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That sound is the coil whine of an electric motor and only happens under extreme driving.
And it is absolutely an incredible sound that makes exhaust rumble sound like a little baby.
HaHaHaHaHa, No.

Your "incredible" coil whine sound is is incredible alright, incredibly annoying to listen to.
 
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candle_86

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The age of working on your own car has long passed. Newer cars come with more and more crap that I, and many people, just don't want to deal with. You are also not going to charge a huge car battery in five min. 30 min is not terrible for a charge. Go in a store to shop and be full once you are done. 300 mile range is fine for an electric car. Most people do not go on road trips every week.
The fact is if my gasoline car can do it better I have no reason to buy into this electric nonsense. And no the age of working on your own car isn't over, I still do my own work. I've got my 77 Truck but I also have an 07 kia. Ive done new caliper and rotors, rebuilt the top half of the engine, about to do the timing belt again, replaced sensors when they break. On the other hand these electric cars arnt user serviceable, which is a massive downside. I'm not interested in paying the dealership to fix it, I can think of better things to spend 3-5 grand on.
 

wiyosaya

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The age of working on your own car has long passed. Newer cars come with more and more crap that I, and many people, just don't want to deal with.
That is a choice, but it can be done. There are all kinds of videos on how to repair stuff on my 06 Prius on YouTube including replacing the traction battery. For instance:
It is not all that difficult to do, IMO, and if I have the car when I need to replace that battery, I will likely choose to do it myself since I can do it at a fraction of the cost of having a dealer, or other qualified mechanic, do it.

I have to wonder how fast the battery will drain if you floor this thing. Like other comments in the thread imply, this car is a status symbol and far less than practical IMO.
 

Nobina

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The age of working on your own car has long passed. Newer cars come with more and more crap that I, and many people, just don't want to deal with.
Let competent people fix their cars. There is nothing wrong with that and it saves money. The only reason it is hard to fix new cars is because car manufacturers intentionally make it hard so they would charge you exorbitant amounts for repairs. A lot of people still drive >10 year old cars cause they do the same job as new ones, just without touchscreens (which are :poop:).
 

EEatGDL

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The sound it makes is absolute cancer.
I'm not even a car purist, but that whining is definitely horrible. Is not even a cool turbine sound or a "futuristic sound", just a very high pitch drilling my ears without any rythm.
 
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scavengerspc

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HaHaHaHaHa, No.

Your "incredible" coil whine sound is is incredible alright, incredibly annoying to listen to.
Its kind of funny really to hear a lethargic, almost choking sound of an internal combustion engine now that I have heard an electric motor wind out. Sounds like the blower on a gasoline engine. Which all us car buffs love.
 
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scavengerspc

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rebuilt the top half of the engine, about to do the timing belt again, replaced sensors when they break
And on the other hand that is normally more maintenance\repair than you will need on an electric. Ever.

Get ready ladies and gentlemen, you are about to enter the Fact-Free Zone, courtesy of candle_86.
 
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candle_86

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And on the other hand that is normally more maintenance\repair than you will need on an electric. Ever.

Get ready ladies and gentlemen, you are about to enter the Fact-Free Zone, courtesy of candle_86.
They arnt designed to be maintained, in 10 years batteries will have to replaced which will easily cost 10-15k, electric motors would have worn out and need replacing another 3-4k per motor. These cars will up in a crusher, and don't try to explain they don't need brakes and brakes don't wear out, because that is utter nonsense.

My kia work in total has been about 4k in 13 years, the only thing I outsourced was getting the valves replaced in the head and having the head surfaced, total cost $400, rest of the work I did myself. Head only had to get redone because I was sold a timing belt with a manufacturing defect that broke the second I started the car, bending 3 valves. If the belt didn't have a defect I wouldn't have spent 400 on head work and 200 in gaskets.
 

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My kia work in total has been about 4k in 13 years, the only thing I outsourced was getting the valves replaced in the head and having the head surfaced, total cost $400, rest of the work I did myself. Head only had to get redone because I was sold a timing belt with a manufacturing defect that broke the second I started the car, bending 3 valves. If the belt didn't have a defect I wouldn't have spent 400 on head work and 200 in gaskets.
Just curious, if you can recall, what brand was that timing belt? I usually use Gates but sometimes I'll use Dayco. Occasionally I'll go with Aisin which I consider top quality but sometimes a bit pricey. I suppose any brand could have a defective one in the bunch but I like to hear what experience others have had. By coincidence, I'm getting ready to replace a timing belt and related parts on a friend's 2001 Sienna as soon as I finish replacing the two knock sensors under the intake manifold.
 

candle_86

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Just curious, if you can recall, what brand was that timing belt? I usually use Gates but sometimes I'll use Dayco. Occasionally I'll go with Aisin which I consider top quality but sometimes a bit pricey. I suppose any brand could have a defective one in the bunch but I like to hear what experience others have had. By coincidence, I'm getting ready to replace a timing belt and related parts on a friend's 2001 Sienna as soon as I finish replacing the two knock sensors under the intake manifold.
Duralast made by dayco, the second one now has 43k miles on it. I wish their warranty covered the damage to my engine it caused, all they did was offer me a replacement
 

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They arnt designed to be maintained, in 10 years batteries will have to replaced which will easily cost 10-15k, electric motors would have worn out and need replacing another 3-4k per motor. These cars will up in a crusher, and don't try to explain they don't need brakes and brakes don't wear out, because that is utter nonsense.

My kia work in total has been about 4k in 13 years, the only thing I outsourced was getting the valves replaced in the head and having the head surfaced, total cost $400, rest of the work I did myself. Head only had to get redone because I was sold a timing belt with a manufacturing defect that broke the second I started the car, bending 3 valves. If the belt didn't have a defect I wouldn't have spent 400 on head work and 200 in gaskets.
Well replacing the motor is really not an issue because they will last decades with ease. Battery prices are very shaky but while your price quote was true (10-15K) keep in mind that is for a complete pack assembly in 2012. Replacing the cells is much much cheaper, but all prices are dropping quickly (Prices across the board dropped 18% just in 2019). Right now, for example, a Model 3 EV battery is around 5K and battery packs for other cars such as the Focus EV can be had for under $2500. And prices are dropping.

I was sold a timing belt with a manufacturing defect that broke the second I started the car, bending 3 valves.
Damage from bad parts is a gut punch. Feel for ya one that one brother.