It's time for our monthly GPU pricing update. Although there's been no major releases to shake things up, new AMD Radeons are coming soon, meanwhile there's been some price movement across new and old-gen GPUs.
GPU Prices Drop Even Further, Sort Of - New Radeons Incoming
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VcoreLeone
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Don't hold your breath for 7800xt people, get discounted rdna2 while they last.
godrilla
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Update from PC partpicker as of 8/23
Current gen is creeping back to MSRP
eg 7900xt by xfx $789 cheapest price ($30 more than last week and $89 more than 1 month ago)
but last gen slightly better than last week
6950XT by xfx fell to $589
6800 non xt fell back to $429
6750xt by Asrock back to $349
6700xt multiple brands $329
everything else is not worth mentioning.
FYI. also dlss 3.5 just dropped with RR technology
NVIDIA announces DLSS 3.5 with Ray Reconstruction, launches this fall - VideoCardz.com
NVIDIA DLSS 3.5 announced A new upscaling technology has emerged, which is essentially an enhancement to NVIDIA’s existing DLSS3. NVIDIA DLSS 3.5, Source: NVIDIA While there haven’t been any updates regarding AMD FSR3, and XeSS going open-source, NVIDIA is determined to make headlines with the...
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takaozo
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That looks good on paper, lets wait for a deep dive after launch.
P.S. about the same time AMD was expected to drop the FSR3, right?
godrilla
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eta
Starfield
Initial release date
September 6, 2023
yeah Nvidia with their fortification strategy.
takaozo
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My wife's rig with a i7 4790 and a GTX1060 had no isues with:
The last of us part 1
Hogwarts legacy
Atomic heart
Spider man
1080p and low-mid settings.
Neutronman
Posts: 30 +43
Really great dissection on current GPU prices.
I purchased a 6700XT in 2021 at the height of the gpu shortage for $601, but I sold my waterblocked 5700XT on Ebay for $975!!!!!!!!!!! Weird times...
But recently I wanted something a little faster at 1440P for Starfield, so I gave my son my 6700XT and picked up a new XFX 6950XT for $575 with a $99 copy of Starfield thrown in for free!
I was going to wait for 7800XT, but based on your review of the 7900GRE, the 7800XT release will be another expensive disappointment with very little improvement over the existing 6800XT!
I have no real interest in RT or FSR/DLSS currently, so the 6950XT's rasterization is perfect for me. And what a price!
I purchased a 6700XT in 2021 at the height of the gpu shortage for $601, but I sold my waterblocked 5700XT on Ebay for $975!!!!!!!!!!! Weird times...
But recently I wanted something a little faster at 1440P for Starfield, so I gave my son my 6700XT and picked up a new XFX 6950XT for $575 with a $99 copy of Starfield thrown in for free!
I was going to wait for 7800XT, but based on your review of the 7900GRE, the 7800XT release will be another expensive disappointment with very little improvement over the existing 6800XT!
I have no real interest in RT or FSR/DLSS currently, so the 6950XT's rasterization is perfect for me. And what a price!
godrilla
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If Starfield is anything like Skyrim where you can spend hundreds to thousand hours of gameplay with or without mods it's going to be even more of a value.
FYI, September 30th is the last day of this bundle.
AdamNovagen
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Can't wait to read the inevitable mental gymnastics when the 7800 and 7700 drop, if indeed that's what they end up being. I can see it now:
"The 7800 XT outperforms the RTX 4070 12G by about 5% on average, has 33% more VRAM and costs $50 less. For this reason, we feel it's just too expensive to compare favorably with the nVidia card, and can't really recommend it. Meanwhile, the 7700 XT outperforms the embarrassing RTX 4060 by 8% or more across the board and has 50% more VRAM for the exact same price, but the average FPS running RT was 24 while the 4060 achieved an average of 30 so it's definitely not worth it at all. We'll be waiting for AMD to drop the price all the way down to $200 USD, but we're not holding our breath."
I can't wait
"The 7800 XT outperforms the RTX 4070 12G by about 5% on average, has 33% more VRAM and costs $50 less. For this reason, we feel it's just too expensive to compare favorably with the nVidia card, and can't really recommend it. Meanwhile, the 7700 XT outperforms the embarrassing RTX 4060 by 8% or more across the board and has 50% more VRAM for the exact same price, but the average FPS running RT was 24 while the 4060 achieved an average of 30 so it's definitely not worth it at all. We'll be waiting for AMD to drop the price all the way down to $200 USD, but we're not holding our breath."
I can't wait
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VcoreLeone
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7800xt won't be faster than 4070 if 7900gre is just +10% over 4070, 7800xt has 60cu's while 7900gre has 80.Can't wait to read the inevitable mental gymnastics when the 7800 and 7700 drop, if indeed that's what they end up being. I can see it now:
"The 7800 XT outperforms the RTX 4070 12G by about 5% on average, has 33% more VRAM and costs $50 less. For this reason, we feel it's just too expensive to compare favorably with the nVidia card, and can't really recommend it. Meanwhile, the 7600 XT outperforms the embarrassing RTX 4060 by 8% or more across the board and has 50% more VRAM for the exact same price, but the average FPS running RT was 24 while the 4060 achieved an average of 30 so it's definitely not worth it at all. We'll be waiting for AMD to drop the price all the way down to $200 USD, but we're not holding our breath."
I can't wait
AdamNovagen
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10% over the 4070? You should check out their re-review article, especially the 15-game average; the 7900 was doing better than the 4070 Ti at an average 185 fps, with the 4070 trailing at just 141, which put it more than 20% faster. That was at 1080p; at 4k, the 7900 pulled 82fps to the 4070's 56, which is an almost 50% lead lol.
AMD aren't gods, and both companies are still charging too much, but they have handily beat equivalent-priced nVidia cards several times this year and TechSpot still finds a way to be like "yeah they're good, but we don't recommend them"
takaozo
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7900XTX has 96 CU (384bit) and 7900XT has 84 CU (320bit) vs 7900XT GRE 80 CU (256bit)
Lets say XTS is 100% performance and the XT only 85% compared to first.
Now the GRE is slower than a XT with 10%, this makes only 75% of the XTX.
7800XT's 60 CU's make this look bad at first sight. 7700XT even worse.
Now depending on real world perf and AMD pricing...let's wait and see how this turns out.
I'm not expecting a miracle from AMD, just my two cents!
Xander3600
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Arguing that the 7800 XT needs to be $450, if its performance is the same as the 6800 XT, is a deeply flawed argument. The 7800 XT doesn't need to be cheaper than the 6800 XT currently is when the 6800 XT is already extremely competitive with current pricing, and (if you properly account for inflation), 520 in 2023 is about a 32% reduction from MSRP when it launched in 2020.
The 7800 XT needs to be a significant improvement over the value that the 6000 series cards were AT LAUNCH, not the CURRENT value of the 6000 series cards. 520 USD today (in 2023) is equivalent to 440 in 2020, that's a 32% reduction in cost.
Does the 7800 XT need to give us an even better improvement than that? Obviously not. The 6800 XT is selling well at current pricing, I believe. The 7800 XT is also going to have better power efficiency, a newer architecture, and better features, so if the standard raster performance is the same, it should cost MORE than the current pricing for the 6800 XT, not less. At equal pricing with the 6800 XT, nobody would have any reason to buy the 6800 XT anymore, but the 6800 XT is already EASILY one of the most competitively priced graphics cards on the market.
The 7800 XT needs to be a significant improvement over the value that the 6000 series cards were AT LAUNCH, not the CURRENT value of the 6000 series cards. 520 USD today (in 2023) is equivalent to 440 in 2020, that's a 32% reduction in cost.
Does the 7800 XT need to give us an even better improvement than that? Obviously not. The 6800 XT is selling well at current pricing, I believe. The 7800 XT is also going to have better power efficiency, a newer architecture, and better features, so if the standard raster performance is the same, it should cost MORE than the current pricing for the 6800 XT, not less. At equal pricing with the 6800 XT, nobody would have any reason to buy the 6800 XT anymore, but the 6800 XT is already EASILY one of the most competitively priced graphics cards on the market.
godrilla
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6800xt launch msrp was $649 though and launched almost 3 years ago the delta drop from launch MSRP is around 20% the Starfield bundle makes it more palatable. You know what other gpus dropped by 20% in MSRP pricing? Some gpus that launched in the past year depending if you got lucky last month but went back up to a 6% drop even the 6950xt fell by 45% from launch MSRP from last year.
Xander3600
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Adjusting for inflation, the 6800 XT is currently about 32% cheaper than it was in 2020 at its launch MSRP of 650. The performance per dollar of all 6000 series graphics cards is a LOT better now than they were for their launch MSRPs. Inflation is real, and it's been a lot higher than normal over the past three years.
It's not a stagnant GPU market for consumers, especially if you can afford a 6700 XT or a 6800 XT.
Xander3600
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You pay a huge premium for high-end performance, so you shouldn't be buying the top of the line components so that the PC can last a really long time before needing an upgrade. The CPU will be very slow for gaming in 10 years from now, and you'll be playing games with lower graphics quality settings, and are likely to have some compatibility issues as well, if your PC's components even still work that long from now. You could just buy mid-range (or lower high-end) and upgrade each component every 2-4 years. That would be far more cost effective over the next 10 years, and you'll end up having a better gaming experience in the second half of those 10 years for sure.
godrilla
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While I do agree about the inflation part, but we are seeing something more in the line of stagflation (persistent high inflation combined with high unemployment and stagnant demand in a country's economy.)
Yestechcity yt video does a great job explaining the macroeconomics of it all.
VcoreLeone
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You're confusing 7900xt with 7900gre.10% over the 4070? You should check out their re-review article, especially the 15-game average; the 7900 was doing better than the 4070 Ti at an average 185 fps, with the 4070 trailing at just 141, which put it more than 20% faster. That was at 1080p; at 4k, the 7900 pulled 82fps to the 4070's 56, which is an almost 50% lead lol.
AMD aren't gods, and both companies are still charging too much, but they have handily beat equivalent-priced nVidia cards several times this year and TechSpot still finds a way to be like "yeah they're good, but we don't recommend them"
10% at 1440p. None of them (7900gre/3080/4070) are 4K gpus, my 3080 can do 4K dsr native in a few games only before dropping into 40-50 fps range. At least it has dlss tho, where even balanced at 4K dsr (1270p) looks great, though I prefer 1920p dldsr + dlss quality. Same 1270p but looks clearer.
Since when is oem-only card an equivalent to 4070 ?
You can even get away with 700 GTX and R9 200 cards in most games still @1080p low; exception I found was FC6 has SD some kind of driver bug with 700 cards.
VcoreLeone
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more like under 70% really.
7800xt will be around 50% of 7900xtx with 6000 cu's. I think it's the severe bus/infinity cache reduction that got the 7900gre performing close to old 3080, more than cu count reduction.
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