First step to introducing kids to critical thinking, would be more accurate.
Greece to ban social media for children under 15 starting next year
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trgz
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I use it for that too, but I'd happily lose it for the greater good and go back to sending e-mails
Anton Longshot
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So because of YOUR preferences you'd like to DICTATE what others MUST do. Got it.The Greater Good is what YOU think it is.
trgz
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At what point did I state that it'd be my choice to end it? I said I'd go along with it if it ended. Based on your reaction, maybe the greater good ought to be applied to childbirth too...
First, I am so sorry your family had first-hand experience with that. You are absolutely right that we should do everything we can to prevent it from ever occurring again.
As you clearly know, the Holocaust was the systematic dehumanization, persecution, and extermination of millions of people based on immutable identity.
Truly horrific.
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That said, WOW. I’m sorry but the logic, as applied here, is just absurd.
Equating a temporary age group with protected identity groups like religions is a category mistake—one is about safeguarding development, the other is about protecting fundamental rights.
A policy limiting minors’ access to social media is a public-health regulation applied to a temporary age group, with the explicit aim of protecting them—not stripping them of rights or humanity.
And relying solely on parents ignores the absolute reality that kids access digital spaces, independently and at scale, regardless of parental attempts to limit the exposure. Baseline safeguards exist precisely because individual supervision cannot cover systemic exposure.
Calling that a “slippery slope” to genocide isn’t learning from history—it’s flattening it into a vague warning that can be applied to literally anything. By the logic applied, seatbelt laws and age limits on alcohol are also steps toward tyranny.
I suggest separating fundamentally different issues into their own lanes. Focus on crafting proportionate, evidence-based policies instead of forcing false equivalencies. Because, if everything is “like the Holocaust,” then nothing is—and that’s exactly how we end up trivializing it.
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Squid Surprise
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I don’t think you understand what I’m saying… no, I’m not equating stripping children’s rights with the holocaust!
What I AM saying is that stripping ANYONE’S rights is what LEADS to things like the Holocaust.
When you take the rights away from anyone, you pave the way to take more rights away down the road - always under the pretense of “protection”.
Once it becomes the “norm”, it becomes far easier for leaders to pass more laws restricting various rights and freedoms.
Hitler didn’t start with murdering Jews in 1933 … but it followed other moves just a few years later…
Stripping children’s rights has always been a fairly easy sell for governments. People tend to forget their youth fairly quickly and only remember the “dumb stuff they did” back when they were teenagers. Ironically, since they don’t get a vote anyways, it’s even easier to do this in democracies.
The problem with this is that it perpetuates a cycle of our youth not trusting the “old guys” who run our countries. If you spent your formative years being distrusted by your elders, imagine what type of person you’d grow up into… well, those complaining about the world as it is today - guess you reap what you sew…
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God forbid that the government does its job. If parents can't do it, then you have to make the government do it. It's why you elect them.
Anybody who says that this is "dictatorship" is just simply wrong. Completely wrong. It's a slippery slop for the medically insane to refuse to regulate social media and to protect children and those who can't protect themselves.
And why the hell are you comparing getting a job and the regulations there with this? Are you trying to gaslight us with these comparisons that make zero sense?
It's the opposite. You have less information on children and the enforcement will be by forcing facebook and others to actually ban children accounts when detected or reported. And they can 100% do this, they already have all of the tools.
I've reported so many children on social media in places where they shouldn't be and they never get banned. It's pathetic to ask to leave this unregulated. Not every parent is perfect and many just work too many long hours to be able to stop their children from using social media (children will find ways if the social norm is to use it with their friends. social pressure.)
Squid Surprise
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No - it’s NOT a dictatorship - YET!
But it is exactly how they start. You want to improve children’s mental health? Maybe try treating them with respect and put some money into educating them. While you’re at it, improve your economy so parents don’t have to work like dogs and have some time/energy left to spend on their kids…
Calling regulations "dictatorship" or "communism" is the mark of somebody who doesn't care about the people around him.
"Maybe try treating them with respect and put some money into educating them" - they're already doing this.
"improve your economy" - yeah, let's feed them cake if they can't buy bread now. I'm sure trump will feed the world with the oil from Iran. I'm expecting a 2000$ check for food to arrive tomorrow.
Squid Surprise
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No… it’s the mark of someone who enjoys their rights and freedoms - and doesn’t want them taken away. Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.
lol - no they aren’t. They need to increase education funding CONSIDERABLY. Why do teachers in public schools make so little? Why are class sizes so large? Why must children go through metal detectors and barbed wire when going to many schools? These are far more pressing issues than social media.
I don’t care who’s in charge of your country - Democrat or Republican. Get your country back in shape economically and you’ll see many of your problems go away.
In the name of the rights and freedoms we shall remove all laws and regulations! We do not want communists and dictators to protect children! The US will elect a pedophile as a president a 3rd time!
"Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it." - You are forgetting history and how many times companies f-ed you up because of those "freedoms" and how it was most like the EU that set them straight. Please write a letter saying you thank them for making your life better. It's the least you can do.
"Get your country back in shape economically" - Yeah, let me undo all of the crap Putin and Trump did to my country's economy in a few hours. I will immediately speak with Israel and Iran leaders to cut oil and natural gas prices to a tenth of what they are now. Oh, and I will also tell them to cut RAM prices too.
That should fix everything in just a few days. The kids can wait a few days, right? Social media will be a lot less toxic place if we do that, right? And social media companies will stop targeting children with their algorithms, right? And pigs will fly, right? RIGHT?
Squid Surprise
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I understand you hate Trump... and wish to make this thread about him... but I'm not talking about Trump... nor am I talking about removing all laws or regulations. I'm talking about taking away specific regulations that target minors.
Last I heard, Trump was the President of the US - not Greece...
"I'm talking about taking away specific regulations that target minors" - and yet here you are talking about dictators when specifically referring to regulations for protecting children. How can I not name drop trump in this situation? it fits perfectly.
We have here the ultra mega wombo-combo: the maga attitude towards regulations, children for pedophiles and dictators. The perfect formula to call upon Satan Trump.
Squid Surprise
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Again… enough with Trump… I’m not a Trump supporter either…
Taking rights away from anyone is how dictatorships begin - I’m sure you can find plenty of sites to compare Trump with Hitler elsewhere…
You do not use Facebook. Facebook uses you.
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