Intel 5th-Gen Core vs. 10th-Gen Core Architecture Benchmarked

tancabean

Posts: 31   +38
I can achieve 144 FPS stable at WoW Vanilla with my 4770K and it's not even OC'd.

Don't fall for their propaganda that you need a 16 Core CPU & 32 threads to get super fps in games.

There's a lot of ppl that don't even play so-called Triple A games such as Failpank et al and even more than 30 FPS are meaningless in strategy games made by Paradox e.g. such as "Crusader Kings".


Not everyone plays the same games you do. There are games where a 4-core does not get to 120fps.
 

Lionvibez

Posts: 2,433   +2,058
AMD raised prices big time recently but these fanboys just stick their fingers in their ears and pretend it didnt happen.
"Big Time"

MSRP went up $50 from Zen 2 to Zen 3

MSRP for the 5600x is set by AMD at $300. The 2700x was MSRP $299. AMD is setting that, not the market.

That is what I said AMD sets the MSRP. However when you go to amazon, newegg etc the price you see there is driven by market demand and the retailer markup. So the price tag you see at the retailer really has nothing to do with AMD.
 
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nodfor

Posts: 111   +193
"Big Time"

MSRP went up $50 from Zen 2 to Zen 3



That is what I said AMD sets the MSRP. However when you go to amazon, newegg etc the price you see there is driven by market demand and the retailer markup. So the price tag you see at the retailer really has nothing to do with AMD.
The 3600 had similar perfomance to the 3600X, lower MSRP and actually retailed lower than its MSRP.
So no, the price increase wasn't a mere 50$
The 5600X was actually 100% more expensive than the all time low retail pricing of the 3600 for quite some time.
Just an 100% markup, nothing to see here.

Saying that AMD has nothing to do with the price tag, is simply wrong. It is not only the MSRP, there is Supply and demand, AMD is the supply, demand will only raise prices when there is not enough supply.

Retailers will compete amongst themselves when there is enough product to sell. When supply is low, they won't, since they will sell out anyway.
 

Steve

Posts: 2,762   +2,835
Staff member
Why didn't you just underclock the DDR4 to the same speed as the DDR3 and eliminate that as a factor?
What would put DDR4 at a massive disadvantage unless you can achieve the exact same memory timings, which you probably can't. You could probably get them similar, but given how small the margin is now do you see much point?
 

Knot Schure

Posts: 374   +175
You didn't have a 6950X to test with, or didn't think Broadwell-E deserved a fair crack at the whip?

I'd have loaned you one... PM me next time.
 

Steve

Posts: 2,762   +2,835
Staff member
You didn't have a 6950X to test with, or didn't think Broadwell-E deserved a fair crack at the whip?

I'd have loaned you one... PM me next time.
I have the entire Broadwell-E lineup. This was a mainstream desktop comparison that ignored HEDT parts entirely, which was mentioned in the content ;)
 

mbk34

Posts: 203   +132
I'm now waiting for a review of my i5-3570K with whatever the latest processor is. There's no real point in upgrading my system with a new CPU if I can't upgrade the GPU as well and I'm not paying silly prices for an RTX 3060 Ti. To be honest I find my current CPU does most things quite well but obviously some current AAA titles are a little beyond it.
 

valoryea

Posts: 14   +9
My main home desktop still spins an i5-4460, which coincidentally I'm considering hyperthreading upgrade with i7-4790 since I'm operating more with Hyper-V VMs and Docker containers nowadays. Hey the motherboard still works, so...
 

valoryea

Posts: 14   +9
I'm now waiting for a review of my i5-3570K with whatever the latest processor is. There's no real point in upgrading my system with a new CPU if I can't upgrade the GPU as well and I'm not paying silly prices for an RTX 3060 Ti. To be honest I find my current CPU does most things quite well but obviously some current AAA titles are a little beyond it.
Also have an i7-3770 for gaming computer; prolonged by upgrade from Radeon HD 7850 to GeForce GTX 970. Games are more constrained by GPU so most of the money should go toward that.