Thanks for your comment. I have an ASUS Crosshair Extreme mobo. So it's very powerful. I always have done my overclocking manually in the bios. But in recent days, I decided to use Ryzen Master inside the os to see how it compared. I started at 3.7ghz and 1.25 voltz and just went up in small increments. I was amazed when I got it all the way up to 4.1ghz and was only using like 1.38 voltage... But being the ***** we all become when having easy success, I decided to push it a little more, to see where it stopped, and it all came crashing down. And since then, I have tried to replicate it, but it will NOT!!!! I ran Cinebench several times at 4.1 and cpu-z and all looked perfectly fine. But then got greedy, and now I can't get it to do the same thing for the life of me... At the moment, I have it running at 4.025ghz and something like 1.42 voltz. And it's steady. But I am not getting the scores in Cinb15 that I was getting when I had it at 4.1ghz. Anyway, it was exciting, and took me on a serious run, that I didn't think it could. I'm running high 17k's on Cinb15 right now, so it's still running very strong. But, imagine if I could have left well enough alone when I had it at the top. Also, wanted to mention that my temps never went above 63 degrees. Now, my temps are hitting 70-72 degrees. That's still not bad, but not nearly as sweet as I had it. I do have a NZXT X62 Kraken AIO. But I will have to wait for the new Zen2 chips in early July to push further.