June Steam hardware survey: AMD losing CPU share to Intel, Windows 10 cements top OS spot

[midian182]

Why it matters: The Steam hardware and software survey for June has been released, and while there were few significant changes last month, it’s interesting to see that AMD is losing ground to Intel when it comes to processor usage.

Back in April, Intel processors were used by 81.72 percent of people while AMD took an 18.26 percent share. And while Intel has gone up to 82.11 percent, AMD has dropped to 17.88 percent—the red team’s lowest figure since February. It’s worth remembering, however, that with the Ryzen 3000 series set to launch on July 7, things could start to change for AMD.

In the category of operating systems, Windows 10 continues to cement its dominance after rising over three points last month to 70.92 percent, while Windows 7’s impending end of support date saw it fall to just 1 percent.

For the first time in months, the top video card­—the GTX 1060—declined slightly but still remained comfortably in first place with 16.01 percent, ahead of the GTX 1050 Ti, which is preferred by 10.63 percent of participants. As we saw previously, all three RTX cards once again made slow but steady gains, with the RTX 2070 the most popular of the three, despite only holding a 1.10 percent share. But you can expect the newly revealed Super versions of these cards to shake things up over the coming months, and there are also AMD’s Navi Radeon cards to consider. Nvidia has over three-quarters of the graphics cards on the list, while AMD has just under 15 percent.

In other areas, more people are favoring the 1920 x 1080 resolution and 8GB of system RAM, while the Oculus Rift remains slightly more popular than the HTC Vive.

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[amstech]

It's not surprising at all to see AMD drop in a Steam survey.
While other software is available on Steam now, lets be honest, its a gaming platform mostly used for gaming.
Well, Intel's chips are better in games.
If I am remembering correctly, even the new Ryzen 3000 showed to still be behind or next to the lowly 4/8 7700K. That's great that these chips have enhanced IPC and they look good, but until they game as good or better, these Steam results won't change.
While all the various benchmarks look good in a review, in all reality not many people care about encoding or file conversion, or multitasking, or file zipping performance. All chips do those things well these days.
Steamers want gaming chips over all.

 

[Vulcanproject]

It's not surprising at all to see AMD drop in a Steam survey.
While other software is available on Steam now, lets be honest, its a gaming platform mostly used for gaming.
Well, Intel's chips are better in games.
If I am remembering correctly, even the new Ryzen 3000 showed to still be behind or next to the lowly 4/8 7700K. That's great that these chips have enhanced IPC and they look good, but until they game as good or better, these Steam results won't change.
While all the various benchmarks look good in a review, in all reality not many people care about encoding or file conversion, or multitasking, or file zipping performance. All chips do those things well these days.
Steamers want gaming chips over all.

You say 'lowly' 7700k, but that was a $340 chip new in January 2017! Nothing lowly about it, that was the very best consumer chip Intel put out just two and a half years ago. Can you even buy a used one for less than $200 now? That's how much a new six core Ryzen 3600 will be.

Tests are showing that multithreaded and Ryzen specific optimisations are starting to impact performance positively in gaming. Techspot here showed how much better the Ryzen 1600 now looks against a 7600k than it did 2 years ago. No doubt in no small part to the fact Ryzen's software support is maturing, and Intel's performance is actively degrading with every security fix in Windows.

The 7600k was a little faster in games back then, now it's noticeably slower on many demanding titles showing a positive trend for more extensive multithreading in games, one you can expect to continue.

The obvious reason why AMD's CPU share has slipped back in this survey is a great many number of people are holding back on buying AMD upgrades because the Ryzen 3000 series are due soon. Count me as one of them.

What leaks and tests appear to be are showing are a bottom end Ryzen 3600 $200 AMD part is probably within 5 percent in gaming of a near $500 top of the line Intel part.

If this is indeed the case and there are another bunch of faster AMD parts above this base model, we definitely WILL start seeing significant changes in these Steam survey results in the coming year!

 

[Shadowboxer]

It's not surprising at all to see AMD drop in a Steam survey.
While other software is available on Steam now, lets be honest, its a gaming platform mostly used for gaming.
Well, Intel's chips are better in games.
If I am remembering correctly, even the new Ryzen 3000 showed to still be behind or next to the lowly 4/8 7700K. That's great that these chips have enhanced IPC and they look good, but until they game as good or better, these Steam results won't change.
While all the various benchmarks look good in a review, in all reality not many people care about encoding or file conversion, or multitasking, or file zipping performance. All chips do those things well these days.
Steamers want gaming chips over all.

Completely agree. Gaming is Ryzen and Ryzen+ worst areas So a gaming store hardware survey will reflect that. You could tell they weren’t selling due to the low prices. Manufacturers always sell low and have deals and promotions etc if the products aren’t shifting. In the meantime Intel’s CPUs seem to increase in price.

I do think this will change when Zen2 arrives but if Intel hold the gaming crown then I can’t see gamers flocking to Ryzen 2 en masse.

 

[RaXoR]

It's not surprising at all to see AMD drop in a Steam survey.
While other software is available on Steam now, lets be honest, its a gaming platform mostly used for gaming.
Well, Intel's chips are better in games.
If I am remembering correctly, even the new Ryzen 3000 showed to still be behind or next to the lowly 4/8 7700K. That's great that these chips have enhanced IPC and they look good, but until they game as good or better, these Steam results won't change.
While all the various benchmarks look good in a review, in all reality not many people care about encoding or file conversion, or multitasking, or file zipping performance. All chips do those things well these days.
Steamers want gaming chips over all.

No, Zen 2 will be directly competing against 9th gen Intel CPUs. Especially the 9900k and 9700k. Based on the recent leaked benchmark, the Ryzen 5 3600 is ever so slightly behind the 9900k. Quite close in IPC performance. A 3700x would be a significant head to head match against the 9900k.

 

[ET3D]

The problem with the Steam survey is that it lacks context. Every piece of data is presented separately, so it's harder to guess what the cause of the change is.

But take a look at the 'Physical CPUs' stat. 4 core CPUs declined by 1.21%, and 6 cores went up by 0.36% and 8 cores went up by 0.25%. But, 2 core CPUs went up 0.78%.

So, what happened? Without knowing exactly what CPUs went up in the stats, all we can guess is that a bunch of 2 core Intel CPUs got introduced into the Steam survey.

Whenever I see posts about the Steam survey, especially those dealing with small month-to-month changes, I cringe. People tend to put a lot of weight into partial numbers that don't say much.

 

[dangh]

In Europe's Mindfactory for June shows that AMD keeps outselling Intel:
https://imgur.com/a/zbn2ttw

 

[Syllo137]

It's not surprising at all to see AMD drop in a Steam survey.
While other software is available on Steam now, lets be honest, its a gaming platform mostly used for gaming.
Well, Intel's chips are better in games.
If I am remembering correctly, even the new Ryzen 3000 showed to still be behind or next to the lowly 4/8 7700K. That's great that these chips have enhanced IPC and they look good, but until they game as good or better, these Steam results won't change.
While all the various benchmarks look good in a review, in all reality not many people care about encoding or file conversion, or multitasking, or file zipping performance. All chips do those things well these days.
Steamers want gaming chips over all.

Why do people who are literally clueless make such comments? It's like Trump's speech about global warming

 

[amstech]

that was the very best consumer chip Intel put out just two and a half years ago.

30 months ago in this business is a lifetime.
The 7700K can be had for $200 now, and it was not the very best consumer chip at the time, I believe the 6/12 7800X was.

No doubt in no small part to the fact Ryzen's software support is maturing, and Intel's performance is actively degrading with every security fix in Windows.

Agreed.

The obvious reason why AMD's CPU share has slipped back in this survey is a great many number of people are holding back on buying AMD upgrades because the Ryzen 3000 series are due soon. Count me as one of them.

While I admire your tenacity, people own the chips they do because of how they perform now.
I almost bought a 2700X but its still average when it comes to gaming, although it does damn well.
Personally I am pumped on the 3700X.
The 8/16 chips will be the battle worth watching, IMO those will be the new upper end norm, but the jury is still out.

If this is indeed the case and there are another bunch of faster AMD parts above this base model, we definitely WILL start seeing significant changes in these Steam survey results in the coming year!

You sir are an inspiration of hope, the 3000 series looks good so far.

Why do people who are literally clueless make such comments? It's like Trump's speech about global warming

Job Approval Under Trump: 50%
Job Approval Under Obama: 45%

Unemployment Rate Under Trump: 3.9%
Unemployment Rate Under Obama: 9.4%

Jobs Added Under Trump: 3.2 Million
Jobs Added Under Obama: -2.9 Million (as in negative)

1st Year Deficit Under Trump: 665 Billion
1st Year Deficit Under Obama: 1.4 Trillion

GDP Growth Under Trump: 4.1%
GDP Growth Under Obama: 1.6%


Don't be so protective over a brand, learn to think neutrally.

 

[Prrredictable]

The problem with the Steam survey is that it lacks context. Every piece of data is presented separately, so it's harder to guess what the cause of the change is.

But take a look at the 'Physical CPUs' stat. 4 core CPUs declined by 1.21%, and 6 cores went up by 0.36% and 8 cores went up by 0.25%. But, 2 core CPUs went up 0.78%.

So, what happened? Without knowing exactly what CPUs went up in the stats, all we can guess is that a bunch of 2 core Intel CPUs got introduced into the Steam survey.

Whenever I see posts about the Steam survey, especially those dealing with small month-to-month changes, I cringe. People tend to put a lot of weight into partial numbers that don't say much.

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Ha, I get your point here, but obviously we can safely assume that a bunch of two-core CPUs were introduced to the survey since the percentage of use increased. I'm just joking.

Anyway context is important, and I think you can see trends across components. The 1050 and 1050TI use increased, while some of the more mid-range cards decreased...just like your observation of the two-core CPUs. Might that be because of the very low end price drops? Getting into PC gaming with a 1050/1050TI (which still have respectable gaming use) is cheaper than ever and only getting cheaper. Same goes for two-core hyper threaded CPUs. Those mid-range cpus and cards use are probably dropping because of the goals of mid-range gamers. If you are not going to game at low settings on 720P, you're not going to spend similar money at mid-range when $50-$100 more nets you far better performance.

 

[Vulcanproject]

30 months ago in this business is a lifetime.
The 7700K can be had for $200 now, and it was not the very best consumer chip at the time, I believe the 6/12 7800X was.

30 months isn't a long time if you basically have the same IPC. Which is true today of all these Skylake based chips, 7700k being one of them. Intel haven't advanced in IPC for gaming as you mentioned. If Intel had made these big leaps in those 30 months then I would have understood your comment. They haven't.

7800x was HEDT on a $300 platform, not really consumer. 7700k was the fastest Intel had.

The obvious reason why AMD's CPU share has slipped back in this survey is a great many number of people are holding back on buying AMD upgrades because the Ryzen 3000 series are due soon. Count me as one of them.

While I admire your tenacity, people own the chips they do because of how they perform now.
I almost bought a 2700X but its still average when it comes to gaming, although it does damn well.
Personally I am pumped on the 3700X.
The 8/16 chips will be the battle worth watching, IMO those will be the new upper end norm, but the jury is still out.

People usually buy chips on a balance of performance now and a thought for the fairly short term future. It is a little hazardous to buy for longer term (2+) years, most probably don't pick a part on that.

However in light of recent developments since Ryzen first appeared as a viable gaming platform in 2017, the short term attractiveness of Ryzen for gamers has been greatly boosted. Albeit only in my estimation. Such issues as security appearing and the increasing multithread demands of modern games taking hold, we are leading up to a new console generation with confirmed 8 core CPUs that games are going to take advantage of. All the while Intel shy away from advanced multithreading on anything but their very highest end.

I was surprised Intel pulled hyperthreading from everything except the 9900, then we started hearing about how these processors are virtually impossible to secure with HT enabled....

 

[Syllo137]

Job Approval Under Trump: 50%
Job Approval Under Obama: 45%

Unemployment Rate Under Trump: 3.9%
Unemployment Rate Under Obama: 9.4%

Jobs Added Under Trump: 3.2 Million
Jobs Added Under Obama: -2.9 Million (as in negative)

1st Year Deficit Under Trump: 665 Billion
1st Year Deficit Under Obama: 1.4 Trillion

GDP Growth Under Trump: 4.1%
GDP Growth Under Obama: 1.6%


Don't be so protective over a brand, learn to think neutrally.

Did you really just go on defensive with Trump when I pointed one fact about him in a comparison? What that has to do with the number of blatantly incorrect facts you said? And what has that to do with thinking neutrally? You said nonsense about both AMD and Intel, "lowly" 7700k... I guess my 8700k will also be "lowly" in less than a year?

 

[deemon]

Back in April, Intel processors were used by 81.72 percent of people while AMD took an 18.26 percent share. And while Intel has gone up to 82.11 percent, AMD has dropped to 17.88 percent—the red team’s lowest figure since February.

This is not precise, because this only counts WINDOWS systems. Please scroll down the page to see LINUX numbers (where AMD actually gained like +1.06%). Although it does not change the big picture much, because Linux users are sadly less than 1%.

 

[amstech]

You said nonsense about both AMD and Intel, "lowly" 7700k...?

Lowly because its a 30 month old 4/8 chip that's now worth $200.
My i7 from 2009 is a 4/8 chip, albeit the 7700K is much faster.
Intel have been milking these generations for a long time due to no competition, or lack there of, until now.

I guess my 8700k will also be "lowly" in less than a year?

That's a great CPU, I really like the 6/12 8700K.
But your whimpering comparison to my comment is invalid.

What that has to do with the number of blatantly incorrect facts you said?

I don't get into politics or political standoffs, you just seemed like a trump hater so I enjoyed sharing those facts...and they are facts, although the GDP thing is more or a prediction.
When you say 'blatantly incorrect', your just choosing to deny them. And you sound miserable, cheer up little buddy, its almost independence day

 

[Dimitrios]

You kidding me????? The survey was taken early this morning, STEAM didn't ask me for the survey until 1PM. I'm an AMD user and they better update it.

These surveys are stupid. With it's time frame plus people using tablets, laptops etc It's not realize source.

 

[Puiu]

that was the very best consumer chip Intel put out just two and a half years ago.

30 months ago in this business is a lifetime.
The 7700K can be had for $200 now, and it was not the very best consumer chip at the time, I believe the 6/12 7800X was.

No doubt in no small part to the fact Ryzen's software support is maturing, and Intel's performance is actively degrading with every security fix in Windows.

Agreed.

The obvious reason why AMD's CPU share has slipped back in this survey is a great many number of people are holding back on buying AMD upgrades because the Ryzen 3000 series are due soon. Count me as one of them.

While I admire your tenacity, people own the chips they do because of how they perform now.
I almost bought a 2700X but its still average when it comes to gaming, although it does damn well.
Personally I am pumped on the 3700X.
The 8/16 chips will be the battle worth watching, IMO those will be the new upper end norm, but the jury is still out.

If this is indeed the case and there are another bunch of faster AMD parts above this base model, we definitely WILL start seeing significant changes in these Steam survey results in the coming year!

You sir are an inspiration of hope, the 3000 series looks good so far.

Why do people who are literally clueless make such comments? It's like Trump's speech about global warming

Job Approval Under Trump: 50%
Job Approval Under Obama: 45%

Unemployment Rate Under Trump: 3.9%
Unemployment Rate Under Obama: 9.4%

Jobs Added Under Trump: 3.2 Million
Jobs Added Under Obama: -2.9 Million (as in negative)

1st Year Deficit Under Trump: 665 Billion
1st Year Deficit Under Obama: 1.4 Trillion

GDP Growth Under Trump: 4.1%
GDP Growth Under Obama: 1.6%


Don't be so protective over a brand, learn to think neutrally.

Please don't throw random statistics. Obama had to go through the aftermath of a global recession and most of Trump's achievements are actually things started by Obama which are showing their affects after he was elected.

FYI the stats you provided are not real or just misleading. For example, in 2011 unemployment rate was over 9% and by the end of 2016 it was well below 5%. It wasn't Trump's policies brought such big changes.

 

[markwills]

You said nonsense about both AMD and Intel, "lowly" 7700k...?

Lowly because its a 30 month old 4/8 chip that's now worth $200.
My i7 from 2009 is a 4/8 chip, albeit the 7700K is much faster.
Intel have been milking these generations for a long time due to no competition, or lack there of, until now.

I guess my 8700k will also be "lowly" in less than a year?

That's a great CPU, I really like the 6/12 8700K.
But your whimpering comparison to my comment is invalid.

What that has to do with the number of blatantly incorrect facts you said?

I don't get into politics or political standoffs, you just seemed like a trump hater so I enjoyed sharing those facts...and they are facts, although the GDP thing is more or a prediction.
When you say 'blatantly incorrect', your just choosing to deny them. And you sound miserable, cheer up little buddy, its almost independence day

actually amstech, if you are going to compare performance, you should compare the most recent, dates, not the period when Obama was stuck with the financial disaster that the mismanagement of the Bush administration created.
if you compare the corresponding period of the last three years of Obama with Trumps first three years, the economy did better under Obama then it did with Trump, more growth, lower deficits, and more jobs created. most likely because any good Trump did with his tax cuts, is more than offset by the great harm his stupid tariffs have done.

 

[amstech]

Please don't throw random statistics. Obama had to go through the aftermath of a global recession and most of Trump's achievements are actually things started by Obama which are showing their affects after he was elected. .

Those stats aren't random, and Obama was in session for 8 years.
Stop talking like it was a 2 year recession Obama fixed, it was bad before and after his time in office.
Trump has done away with many of the things Obama started, saying he is benefiting from Obama's tenure is asinine. Obama was terrible on the business side of things, but he did have good speeches and he did appeal to more folks.

 

[Evernessince]

If I am remembering correctly, even the new Ryzen 3000 showed to still be behind or next to the lowly 4/8 7700K. That's great that these chips have enhanced IPC and they look good, but until they game as good or better, these Steam results won't change.

AMD's mid range 3600 was shown beating the 9900K.

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-5-3600-benchmark-beats-core-i9-9900k,39768.html

Job Approval Under Trump: 50%
Job Approval Under Obama: 45%

Unemployment Rate Under Trump: 3.9%
Unemployment Rate Under Obama: 9.4%

Jobs Added Under Trump: 3.2 Million
Jobs Added Under Obama: -2.9 Million (as in negative)

1st Year Deficit Under Trump: 665 Billion
1st Year Deficit Under Obama: 1.4 Trillion

GDP Growth Under Trump: 4.1%
GDP Growth Under Obama: 1.6%


Don't be so protective over a brand, learn to think neutrally.

Fiscal 2007: $161 billion (next to last year of Bush’s second term)
Fiscal 2008: $459 billion (beginning impact from the Great Recession)
Fiscal 2009: $1.4 trillion (Obama’s first year and in the teeth of the Recession)
Fiscal 2010: $1.3 trillion
Fiscal 2011: $1.3 trillion
Fiscal 2012: $1.1 trillion
Fiscal 2013: $680 billion
Fiscal 2014: $485 billion
Fiscal 2015: $438 billion
Fiscal 2016: $587 billion

Obama's "debt" is entirely fueled by the prior administration's tax cuts and policy. Unless you honestly think that Obama is somehow responsible for the ballooning debt that was handed to him right as he entered office. Typically, a president's policies don't start having an economic impact until at least 2 years in.

Job Approval Under Trump: 50%
Job Approval Under Obama: 45%

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_approval_rating

Obama had an average approval rating of 47.3. Trump has an average approval rating of 39.

Unemployment Rate Under Trump: 3.9%
Unemployment Rate Under Obama: 9.4%

https://www.factcheck.org/2017/09/obamas-final-numbers/

That 9.4% rate was when Obama took office and the result the great recession. What you are not saying is that Obama brought that number all the way down to 4.8% despite having been president during a recession. That's impressive and in fact Obama lowered the unemployment much much more then Trump ever has. In fact I would contend that you are giving Trump credit for the coattails of Obama's policy. After all, Trump didn't even get significan't legislation out until 2 years in and even then you have to wait for it to take effect.

1st Year Deficit Under Trump: 665 Billion
1st Year Deficit Under Obama: 1.4 Trillion

I know right, thank you Obama for leaving office with such a low deficit despite entering office with the burden of the previous admin's recession and debt. Or are you honestly suggesting that Obama is somehow responsible for things prior to his administration?

GDP Growth Under Trump: 4.1%
GDP Growth Under Obama: 1.6%

https://www.factcheck.org/2019/03/spinning-gdp/

Even with a massive tax cut Trump still could not beat an Obama administration that was laden by recession from the prior president.

For a guy that touts thinking neutrally, you certainly cherry picked your statements here.

 

[fluffydestroyer]

I got an Amd cpu and its very good. I still use my fx-8350 and frankly its still serve me now and will for the next year or so. Of course I could get another Ryzen or even an Intel but I always used AMD cause I like em for their price. I don't think I'll ever use Intel because of their price and recently the way they got attacked by their vulnerability.

Honestly, I just don't like Intel's business practice and that alone prevents me of buying their products.

 

[captaincranky]

Job Approval Under Trump: 50%
Job Approval Under Obama: 45%

.

Who in god's name is giving Trump a 50% approval rating? Probably not even Melania.

 

[cliffordcooley]

Who in god's name is giving Trump a 50% approval rating? Probably not even Melania.

I am and you are right, I'm not Melania. I'm giving him an approval rating, because he was the only choice outside of Clinton. I'm not ashamed of who I voted for.

 

[markwills]

I got an Amd cpu and its very good. I still use my fx-8350 and frankly its still serve me now and will for the next year or so. Of course I could get another Ryzen or even an Intel but I always used AMD cause I like em for their price. I don't think I'll ever use Intel because of their price and recently the way they got attacked by their vulnerability.

Honestly, I just don't like Intel's business practice and that alone prevents me of buying their products.

well, while Intel has the greatest vulnerability to spectre and meltdown, AMD isn't immune either, even ARM chips have shown some vulnerability

 

[amstech]

Lol, people love to hate on Trump (mostly entitled everybody wins nobody loses millennials) but I could care less either way, I was just responding to someone's comment about Trump and something about global warming.
Sorry those 'cherrypicked' stats don't sit well some folks, its all a big joke anyways IMO. I don't like or dislike Trump, and I don't even care that much about any of it.

I know right, thank you Obama for leaving office with such a low deficit despite entering office with the burden of the previous admin's recession and debt. Or are you honestly suggesting that Obama is somehow responsible for things prior to his administration?.

The rest of your reply is just political banter that doesn't counter any of the info I provided, and isn't worth reading (I can copy and paste too) but I enjoyed this one about the previous recession...he was in office for 8 years!
Sorry but the job situation was very bad under Obama, and never got better, he promised a lot but rarely delivered, and that's about how he is remembered.
Lots of talking, little substance.

Now, back to these results.
Looks to be all Nvidia GPU's again. No surprise there but I think AMD could do better here if they just adjusted their pricing.

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Honestly, I just don't like Intel's business practice and that alone prevents me of buying their products.

It's amazing they came out with a new generation of CPU's just about every year for 9 years, but this is the first time I awhile Intel has felt some pressure and that's a good thing.
Now if we can only get some better GPU competition going...

Also miserable is really ironic statement here, especially when you are then one going on defensive when your beliefs are contradicted even if not directly, really shows what kind of person you are.

I was replying to you sounding miserable and defensive.
Like I said, cheer up little buddy, it will be ok.
Can we please get back on topic, if that's ok? Thanks.
And someone had a great comment about Trumps impact/the pulse of the market, and it got deleted? Shocker!

 

[Syllo137]

I don't get into politics or political standoffs, you just seemed like a trump hater so I enjoyed sharing those facts...and they are facts, although the GDP thing is more or a prediction.
When you say 'blatantly incorrect', your just choosing to deny them. And you sound miserable, cheer up little buddy, its almost independence day

Not sure why are you talking about politics if you are not into them and I believe to compare Trump's and Obama's success, you have to have fair understanding of it which is whyI'm neither denying nor approving your "facts" about his success. However I've my fair share of understanding about CPU's which is why I can say your first comment "facts" are false and others have already proved how but you have chose to ignore that by the looks of it. Also miserable is really ironic statement here, especially when you are then one going on defensive when your beliefs are contradicted even if not directly, really shows what kind of person you are. Enjoy your independence day, I certainly won't as I'm from EU unless you are talking about the movie