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Linus Torvalds returns to Linux project after time off to address his behavior

By midian182 · 12 replies
Oct 23, 2018
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  1. Back in September, Torvalds explained in an email to the Linux Kernel Mailing List that he was taking some time off and would “get some assistance on how to understand people’s emotions and respond appropriately.”

    Torvalds was just as famous for his firebrand personality as for his work. He often directed his aggressive behavior toward fellow coders and was even accused of “advocating for physical intimidation and violence.” Torvalds hasn’t been afraid to use expletive-heavy language in the past to explain what he thinks of certain companies, either.

    Kroah-Hartman said he was now “handing the kernel tree” back to Torvalds. The interim boss wrote: “So here is my plea to everyone out there. Let’s take a day or two off, rest, relax with friends by sharing a meal, recharge, and then get back to work, to help continue to create a system that the world has never seen the likes of, together.”

    In addition to Torvalds’ return, a revised code of conduct has been officially added to the Linux community. It asks devs to be treated with “respect and dignity” while prohibiting “public or private harassment.”

    We’ll just have to wait and see whether Torvalds’ time off has turned him into a more chilled out person. Hopefully, the updated code of conduct will help the Linux developer community become a friendlier place, too.

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  2. Squid Surprise

    Squid Surprise TS Evangelist Posts: 2,361   +1,366

    Personalities tend to be set by the age of 3... but maybe he's learned some coping techniques which might mask his "abrasiveness"...
    Reehahs, seeprime and p51d007 like this.
  3. fps4ever

    fps4ever TS Maniac Posts: 255   +245

    Bingo. People don't change, they can only hide it for a while. Right or wrong he is who he is.
    seeprime and p51d007 like this.
  4. VitalyT

    VitalyT Russ-Puss Posts: 4,298   +2,758

    So now he has people skills...

    VBKing and ctm17 like this.
  5. p51d007

    p51d007 TS Evangelist Posts: 1,861   +1,142

    A lot of people in this coding/hacking/software world are introverts, and some are anti-social.
    It's just "how they are". They have little people skills because of their work, they wall themselves
    off from society.
    Clamyboy74 and ctm17 like this.
  6. EEatGDL

    EEatGDL TS Evangelist Posts: 641   +319

    People can change, but it takes a lot of time and effort. I know I have; but it didn't happen overnight nor was easy. Well, at least young people can: I've seen mine and my siblings' attitude and habits change for better or worse throughout the years, unlike my parents.
    Clamyboy74 likes this.
  7. seeprime

    seeprime TS Guru Posts: 353   +380

    Have you seen your parents at work often? I'm pretty sure the face they show you and your siblings isn't the same one they wear around colleagues. Linus was a rare example of an unfiltered mind throwing words made out of bricks instead of sponges.
  8. fps4ever

    fps4ever TS Maniac Posts: 255   +245

    People learn to cope and mature better with others as they get older. There is a difference in what you went through and the age Linus is at 48 years old and set in his ways. To say he can change in one month is ridiculous. By his age you are who you are. I agree with never say never but it would be an extreme rarity for it to occur.
    Last edited: Oct 23, 2018
  9. mrjgriffin

    mrjgriffin TS Evangelist Posts: 349   +163

    I'm 28. I usually wake up naturally angry most of the time. A good meal helps alot of the default anger that lingers (I have type 1 diabetes so not eating makes me an anger machine) let alone what my evaluations have "concluded" about me.

    My point is that by a certain age I don't think people can just "change" like that. especially not naturally. This "mind over matter" stuff goes completely out the window when your brain is attacking you and making you insane. You can try medication, and it WILL change your behavior, but there are side effects and in my experience medication makes you feel as if you're not quite in the drivers seat. Or it made me a big dummy. Literally. It would take me 5 minutes to unscrew a screw 2 inches lol.

    People who can change on a whim aren't normal people, they're psychotic with some sociopathicness sprinkled on. Just my opinion but people who are messed up in the head can spot other people like that and read them pretty easily, so that's basically what I've observed in life.
  10. EEatGDL

    EEatGDL TS Evangelist Posts: 641   +319

    Oh, I totally agree, one month is ridiculous. But I was replying to the broader statement "people don't change", as in "never ever". It took me years to get rid of negative habits and attitudes I had by the time I was 14 years old.
  11. MaikuTech

    MaikuTech TS Evangelist Posts: 1,029   +175

    Nah just hit the man with a pink slip and show him right back outside to his car to find a new job.
  12. Kashim

    Kashim TS Booster Posts: 76   +59

    This is a common (and offensive) misconception. Every profession has its outliers, but to generalize in such a way is simply wrong.
  13. p51d007

    p51d007 TS Evangelist Posts: 1,861   +1,142

    No it isn't, but that is besides the point. I don't "code" but I have been in the electronics business my entire adult life. And I said MOST, not ALL. I've done field work, and I am one of those "outliers". Just tell me what job(s) need to be done and get the hell out of my way. I'm a loner when it comes to work. I don't like "help" unless it requires heavy lifting. If I need help I will ask for it.
    I work better alone, and always have.
    Seraphim401 likes this.

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