Microsoft plans to remove Paint from Windows, but will still live at the Store

[Trillionsin]

Yeah, I figured as much. Apparently everyone else (including Techspot) assumed that "no longer updating" meant that it was dead and removed.

Paint will always be my goto screenshot editor, even if it would mean finding it on an older version of Windows...

Change is hard, but you have to learn to adapt to keep up with technology. I am only assuming you desire this, since you are on a tech website learning about new things.

 

[m4a4]

Change is hard, but you have to learn to adapt to keep up with technology. I am only assuming you desire this, since you are on a tech website learning about new things.

It's not even that. It's so lightweight with it's simple, useful features that no other photomanip program that I know of is convenient enough to properly replace it lol

 

[lostinlodos]

I love paint. Infact paint is one of the few apps keeping me tethered to windows! There's one thing paint has that nobody else does well; clipboard text to image FAST!
Paint: ctr+v ctr+s enter ctr+a ctr+c ctr+F4
Save text as an image, save image to disk, copy image to clipboard. In under 10-15 seconds.
I use it to turn document tables into a static image for ebooks that would otherwise not publish them correctly using word or excel with the ePub output cuts the table at the page boundary. Gimp chokes on complex tables making a stacked garbled mess. Vueprint can't do it at all.
Calibre turns tables into a scroll function which most non-eink readers don't understand. E.g. iBooks, kindle app, total reader.
Paint + irfanview And a series of memorised keyboard shortcuts makes the most difficult work in photoshop or gimp (a photoshop replacement, not a paint replacement) a breeze!
Without paint I could move to Linux, with wine and a Mac CL or Mac with wine and a Linux CL and never look back.
I {heart} paint. So do millions. This 'outpouring' of emotion just shows we need to be more vocal more often about our favourite apps!

 

[learninmypc]

Sorry if this was posted, I just heard it MSPAINT STAYS

 

[lostinlodos]

Anybody who isn't a beginner should be using GIMP. It's almost as good has Photoshop, but it's free.

Gimp is bloated for simple cut and paste

Well now you can't be breaking any laws, copyrights and all. lol

Nope, probably not depending on use. I screenshot title blurbs on trailers/promos all the time to have a record to look up and rent/buy the film later

 

[Tgard]

I have had trouble with MS Paint on 3 of our Win10 machines. Until a reboot, it just stops accepting screenshots for some reason, which is the primary reason I use it often. I originally thought it was just my desktop until I found on the other computers in my household and on 1 neighbors that something seems to be broken with it. Haven't really tried debugging yet to see the problem as it may be something wrong with printscreen or Win10 itself(likely). I only know I use it regularly and it's a PITA when it just stops working. As long as it is still offered thru the store for free, it's not that big of a deal to download it, but it seems to me to be an inconvenient unnecessary step. I like that it's free, small, lightweight and convenient. I use Gimp for heavy lifting.

 

[lostinlodos]

I have had trouble with MS Paint on 3 of our Win10 machines. Until a reboot, it just stops accepting screenshots for some reason, which is the primary reason I use it often...

There's issues with the keyboard subsystem in many editions of 10. If prtscn doesn't work try ctr+ or shift+ Prtscn to get a screenshot. That tends to add some extra pastes for me before needing to restart the system.

 

[Tgard]

Thanks lostinlodos! I will definitely try that next time. I really hope there is no next time but thanks just the same!

 

[lostinlodos]

Thanks lostinlodos! I will definitely try that next time. I really hope there is no next time but thanks just the same!

I found the issue because I have a mechanical US qwerty keyboard and swapped the Y with Z.
Print screen is a virtual key under windows 32-bit and 64-bit. The same reason all 6 of those keys in the 'hot key' block work on some keyboards under Linux and not others.
I often have issues with loosing Z and Y after a few days running, along with print screen, all go at the same time. I loose scroll home end etc also.
Different keys for different keyboards.
But we are not alone on printscreen. MSDN has a massive thread on it. Print screen is a macro under every version of 32/64-bit windows since 95 on any non-XT or -serial (on-board controller based) keyboard.
The problem had existed in 64 bit versions of XP and 7 to a lesser extent (and I've read 8.y but I skipped 8) as well. It's purely a driver interpretation issue. If you have a "smart" or media keyboard (play, sleep, fast forward, etc buttons) look up the model on the manufacturer's web site for a dedicated driver or look at driverguide for a public one. Should also solve the issue. Did for my mother's HP keyboard.

 

[cliffordcooley]

Good riddance and may you die with the store one day.

 

[captaincranky]

Well heck, what am I going to use now?

First it was Windows Media Center, now the innocuous, and barely functional "Paint". If another few things get taken out, they'll have to rename the OS, "Android".

Paint is to be removed in the "Creators Update" ... What is wrong with this sentence?

Absolutely nothing! It's an oxymoron along with being a complete misnomer, therefore perfectly functional for press releases and well suited to advertising.

 

[Tgard]

I found the issue because I have a mechanical US qwerty keyboard and swapped the Y with Z.
Print screen is a virtual key under windows 32-bit and 64-bit. The same reason all 6 of those keys in the 'hot key' block work on some keyboards under Linux and not others.
I often have issues with loosing Z and Y after a few days running, along with print screen, all go at the same time. I loose scroll home end etc also.
Different keys for different keyboards.
But we are not alone on printscreen. MSDN has a massive thread on it. Print screen is a macro under every version of 32/64-bit windows since 95 on any non-XT or -serial (on-board controller based) keyboard.
The problem had existed in 64 bit versions of XP and 7 to a lesser extent (and I've read 8.y but I skipped 8) as well. It's purely a driver interpretation issue. If you have a "smart" or media keyboard (play, sleep, fast forward, etc buttons) look up the model on the manufacturer's web site for a dedicated driver or look at driverguide for a public one. Should also solve the issue. Did for my mother's HP keyboard.

lol the funny thing (or not) is that I am still using the Original Microsoft Natural Keyboard part number 59758 designed for Windows 95 believe it or not. It is a PS2 only keyboard. Microsoft can't get their drivers correct for their own peripherals I guess. Should have been built in to the last several operating systems. I have luckily never had a problem with printscreen functioning that I recall before Windows 10 and I have used it for more than 2 decades. Never heard of this problem before I had it. Guess I am just un-edumacated. And I fancied myself as a trouble-shooter with as many of my extended families computers I end up fixing - seems I would have run into this before. Well I have now run into it. Thanks for the help. Didn't mean to get off topic of MSPaint - sorry!

 

[Evernessince]

"Yes, Paint will be eventually removed from the core group of bundled Windows applications, but "MS Paint" as Microsoft is calling it will simply move to the Windows Store as a free download."

Ah the windows store, the new GFWL. It's always funny how little Microsoft understands it's own success. Lucky for them they don't have any competition.

 

[captaincranky]

"Yes, Paint will be eventually removed from the core group of bundled Windows applications, but "MS Paint" as Microsoft is calling it will simply move to the Windows Store as a free download."

Of course it will, and likely sooner rather than later.

"Ah the windows store, the new GFWL. It's always funny how little Microsoft understands it's own success. Lucky for them they don't have any competition.

The new regime at M$ not only full well understands their success to date, but are trying to expand upon it. You've completely missed "the bigger, greedier, picture".

Once upon a time, there was a sales tactic known as, "bait and switch". It was most often used in the realm of the sale of hi-fi equipment.

OK, so nobody can make money on a brand every dealer must stock, say "Pioneer". A price war always ensues. So, Pioneer then becomes a "football", and every dealer uses it for its brand recognition, they simply make a very slim to none profit margin when they sell the product. Next, the well informed, but really, really aggressive, Hi-Fi salesman, steps in to "lead you out of your confusion". He of course, tells you the Pioneer receiver you've got your eye on, (because of its low, low, price), is garbage, and offers to kindly sell you "the much higher performing Onkyo equivalent", which is being sold at a 30% markup, and earning him a substantial commission. (Along with a possible "SPIF", or "sales person's incentive form").

M$ will essentially be doing the same thing with "Paint", but granted, without a fire breathing preacher/salesperson, there as "the closer".

So, I'm at the Windows store, and I need some minimal drawing program. But, "Paint", having been free for so many years, has obviously already acquired the unenviable but justified reputation of, "not doing sh!t, really". But, I see this is my lucky day, "Corel Draw" (or whatever it's called), is on sale this week. I pays my money, and makes my download. The net result of which is, I'm my own de facto pushy salesman, and I've managed to "bait and switch myself".

Hey wait, maybe while I'm here, I'll ditch that Corel junk, and sign up for a couple programs in the Adobe Creative Suite. That way, Adobe will simply bill me for my continued participation, and I won't have to come back to the Windows Store again. (But M$, almost certainly makes a profit on everything they sell in the store).

So, you went for the free program, but your needs are much greater than that, (or so you've manage to convince yourself), and you're walking away a self bait and switched, "winner".

EDIT: In any event, this is but a small part of a "master plan", to simply copy, ("rip off" if you will") and adapt Apple's successful closed system, to the already existing M$ pure avarice and greed. In other words, they're going to do their utmost to turn Windows users, into, "winSheep"

 

[lostinlodos]

... Microsoft can't get their drivers correct for their own peripherals I guess...

Microsoft will never figure out the driver soup they made for themselves. It doesn't help that Microsoft Logitech and Apple among others make different devices with the same digital identification signature.
Back to paint:
If ms killed it off completely people would simply download it from elsewhere, with or without permission. Probably as a portable.
Windows XP (variations combined) is still in the top 20 most downloaded (read pirated) applications list. 95osr2 is in the top 50
Know what else is in that top 50? Surprise: paintshop pro, CPM/86, DosBox. VuePrint. All legally free.
Just goes to show old habits don't die hard, they simply don't die. Period.
Along with paint I've also used vueprint since 95 (maybe earlier). Both I still use 2 decades later on windows 10. And I'll probably find some way to still be using them 30 years from now on windows 1650!