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VitalyT said:
Unimpressive all around, low spec. I don't understand the author's excitement about the product. Was this website was paid to flog this thing?
yRaz said:
VitalyT said:
Unimpressive all around, low spec. I don't understand the author's excitement about the product. Was this website was paid to flog this thing?
You do know that windows phone has full hardware acceleration and doesn't need the brute force that android does, right? My LG Quantum is more responsive than a lot of android phones with higher spec'd hardware.
Guest said:
Sorry but... No.
In matters of hardware I rather get the HTC Titan. I can swap battery and the hardware is gorgeous. The benefit of Nokia would come from added value from Nokia software.
But since I don't give a rat's a** about it, HTC Titan is my choice. Also the screen of the Titan is HOT!
Princeton said:
Guest said:
Sorry but... No.
In matters of hardware I rather get the HTC Titan. I can swap battery and the hardware is gorgeous. The benefit of Nokia would come from added value from Nokia software.
But since I don't give a rat's a** about it, HTC Titan is my choice. Also the screen of the Titan is HOT!
The titan has the worst screen on any WP7 device on the market. Increasing size while keeping the same resolution is a downgrade, not an upgrade. You're not fitting anything more on screen, you're just enlarging the pixels.
On top of that it's the typical Twisted Nematic type panel HTC uses in almost all their phones. Enjoy having 1/64 the colors that OLED based WP7 devices have.
lawfer said:
Princeton said:
Guest said:
Sorry but... No.
In matters of hardware I rather get the HTC Titan. I can swap battery and the hardware is gorgeous. The benefit of Nokia would come from added value from Nokia software.
But since I don't give a rat's a** about it, HTC Titan is my choice. Also the screen of the Titan is HOT!
The titan has the worst screen on any WP7 device on the market. Increasing size while keeping the same resolution is a downgrade, not an upgrade. You're not fitting anything more on screen, you're just enlarging the pixels.
On top of that it's the typical Twisted Nematic type panel HTC uses in almost all their phones. Enjoy having 1/64 the colors that OLED based WP7 devices have.
Funny you say that, because, according to WP7 enthusiasts, the Titan has the second best screen of all WP7 devices... Just behind the Lumia 800. Here's a part of a review, in which the difference is fairly noticeable*:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFn1Lhu88xQ&t=6m5s
The reviewer admits he knows HTC screens are subpar (as I do too), but you seem to tie twisted nematic screens with "inferiority." Granted, TN-effect screens are not as advantageous as OLED displays, but even proprietary technology can provide equal presentation when compared to an OLED. Take Nokia's ClearBlack technology. Compare any other OLED display to it and you can tell which one is better (higher contrast, deeper blacks). Despite both being OLED.
In the case with HTC's S-LCD, even though they haven't announced any specific technology on their WVGA screens, it is undoubtedly clear that, even thought it is still a TN-effect S-LCD, it still looks better than most OLEDs in the WP7 platform. Somehow, that is. It might just be they implemented something similar.
*If you don't believe the reviewer, the difference is also noticeable if you pause the video, and notice the white menu arrow on the right. You can see that the arrow on the Focus S' screen is more opaque.
Princeton said:
lawfer said:
Princeton said:
Guest said:
Sorry but... No.
In matters of hardware I rather get the HTC Titan. I can swap battery and the hardware is gorgeous. The benefit of Nokia would come from added value from Nokia software.
But since I don't give a rat's a** about it, HTC Titan is my choice. Also the screen of the Titan is HOT!
The titan has the worst screen on any WP7 device on the market. Increasing size while keeping the same resolution is a downgrade, not an upgrade. You're not fitting anything more on screen, you're just enlarging the pixels.
On top of that it's the typical Twisted Nematic type panel HTC uses in almost all their phones. Enjoy having 1/64 the colors that OLED based WP7 devices have.
Funny you say that, because, according to WP7 enthusiasts, the Titan has the second best screen of all WP7 devices... Just behind the Lumia 800. Here's a part of a review, in which the difference is fairly noticeable*:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFn1Lhu88xQ&t=6m5s
The reviewer admits he knows HTC screens are subpar (as I do too), but you seem to tie twisted nematic screens with "inferiority." Granted, TN-effect screens are not as advantageous as OLED displays, but even proprietary technology can provide equal presentation when compared to an OLED. Take Nokia's ClearBlack technology. Compare any other OLED display to it and you can tell which one is better (higher contrast, deeper blacks). Despite both being OLED.
In the case with HTC's S-LCD, even though they haven't announced any specific technology on their WVGA screens, it is undoubtedly clear that, even thought it is still a TN-effect S-LCD, it still looks better than most OLEDs in the WP7 platform. Somehow, that is. It might just be they implemented something similar.
*If you don't believe the reviewer, the difference is also noticeable if you pause the video, and notice the white menu arrow on the right. You can see that the arrow on the Focus S' screen is more opaque.
The problem with this video is the reviewer himself is unable to give a specific term to describe why he likes it more. He claims the Focus S screen looks more "computerized". Not only is that not a word, but it isn't even a slang word with a meaning. It has no meaning whatsoever. In turn this makes his opinion entirely meaningless. You on the other hand were able to show a specific example on the screen which looks better on the Titan and you used a proper term to describe it.
I do see what you're talking about with the rendering for the arrow in the corner. There's a reason for it. When you initially get a SAMOLED device it has a blue tint for around a month after you buy it. It's due, as you probably know, to the faster degredation of the blue subpixels in OLED screens. It does go away after a bit of time and it's not a valid argument against the displays. If you wanted Samsung could ship them without the blue tint. But it would turn to a warmer looking color scheme(more reds and greens) much faster than it would normally.
Also don't you dare try and claim that I'm the one tying Twisted Nematic screens with inferiority, it's not an opinion, it's a fact. My post contained nothing but factual information relating to the specifications of the screens. TN panel screens display 18bit total color which is in fact 1/64 the amount of colors on a 24bit display like an IPS one or an OLED one. 2^24/2^18=2^6 My initial post actually said IPS or OLED based WP7 devices but I don't think there are any IPS WP7 devices so I removed it. I'll revise that if you can find one.
I also claimed increasing screen size while keeping the same resolution reduces clarity and is thus a downgrade when it comes to picture quality. This is also a fact. Less pixel density=less sharpness.
burty117 said:
yRaz said:
VitalyT said:
Unimpressive all around, low spec. I don't understand the author's excitement about the product. Was this website was paid to flog this thing?
You do know that windows phone has full hardware acceleration and doesn't need the brute force that android does, right? My LG Quantum is more responsive than a lot of android phones with higher spec'd hardware.
I was just replying with the exact same thing!
The thing is, if it runs that well on lower spec hardware (I'ved used a few from HTC and they all were very fast and smooth) then why use more power hungry hardware? its another thing going for Windows Phone really as the battery lasts longer than any other OS.