Nvidia RTX 60 GPUs might not arrive until 2027, Jensen says neural rendering is the future

[vimann]

" System requirements: you need a gpu from 2 years in the future to run this "

 

[Loadedaxe]

Low-end cards are not really profitable. Most buy mid-end. Do you mistake low-end for mid-end?

Mid-end is 60-70 series.

Low-end for me is stuff like RTX 5050, Radeon 9050 etc. Waste of silicon and RAM modules for the most part. A last gen mid-end card always beats new-gen low-end stuff. Hence why it is pointless to make next gen low-end stuff, when there's still plenty of mid-end last gen stuff available + used GPUs.

With current RAM prices - Expensive VRAM on cheap low-end cards makes sense how? Drives the price up. Performance per dollar suffers. They might as well use the expensive modules on better cards, meaning mid-end and up, where people are willing to pay more.

And this is exactly what Nvidia has been doing for years. They don't really care for low-end stuff. Low margins. Almost waste of time. They mostly do low-end to fill OEM market needs. It is not what most consumers go out and buy, when they pick up just a single GPU. I work with B2B and see the numbers. We ship millions of GPUs yearly to retailers.


Best selling Nvidia GPUs are almost always 60-70 series. Look at Steam HW Survey. This is mid-end and where you typically get most for your money.

AMD should focus more on low-end than Nvidia, to regrab marketshare but I don't think AMD should spend much time on next gen low-end stuff when they can just keep making Radeon 9060/9070 series to fill that space, for example.
They should keep using GDDR6 + older process node for this, while GDDR7 and 3nm tech should be reserved for mid-end to high-end. Neither Nvidia or AMD should waste GDDR7 modules on low-end stuff in this RAM market and Nvidia prefers not to use 3GB GDDR7 modules on gaming stuff at all, hence 5000 SUPER delay/cancellation. These are needed and used mainly for RTX Pro.

Rumour says 3060 12GB is coming back. GDDR6. Samsung 8nm. Won't affect 4000/5000 production much (slight overlap in low tier GPUs using GDDR6 but these could go EOL), these mostly use GDDR6X or GDDR7 and TSMC only.

No need to do overlaps or atleast limit them.

This is how you dominate on marketshare and sales, instead of being limited to 1 type of memory and 1 fabrication process where making lower-end parts lowers your mid-end and high-end output, which have higher margins.

This argument keeps mixing profitability with market health, and that’s where it falls apart.

Yes, the 60 and 70 series sells best. That’s because the low end has been hollowed out for years. When entry level cards are either missing, overpriced, or crippled by vram limits and narrow buses, people are forced to next level series. That doesn’t mean low end is waste silicon, it means it’s being neglected by design.

“Last gen midrange beats new low end” isn’t some law of physics. It’s the result of deliberate segmentation. Historically, 50 and 60 series cards actually moved generations forward at reasonable prices. The reason they don’t now is strategy, not inevitability.

Steam HW Survey showing 60 series dominance doesn’t prove lowend is pointless. It proves price sensitivity dominates the market. Most gamers buy what’s affordable, not what’s optimal. Kill the low end long enough and the midrange becomes the new entry point. That’s redefining, not proving lowend useless.

On vram pricing, if expensive memory really made lowend impossible, consoles wouldn’t exist. Fixed BOMs, balanced configurations, and long lifecycles keep costs down. PC GPUs are expensive because margins and segmentation demand it, not because silicon economics require it.

OEM only low end is part of the problem. When DIY buyers are told to buy used or stick to last gen, that’s a sign of a stalled product stack, not a healthy one. New buyers, budget builders, and first time PC gamers don’t live on eBay.

Reviving a 3060 in 2026 isn’t dominance, it’s stagnation. It’s an admission that nothing meaningful exists below the midrange anymore.

Skipping launches until 2027 while reissuing old skus doesn’t prove Nvidia is being smart. It proves the consumer GPU market is no longer the priority, and pretending that’s good for gamers is pure cope.

 

[Tech420]

I usually wait a while to upgrade. I went from a GTX-1080 to RTX-4080, so next upgrade will probably be in 2028 and by then AI will be producing tons of cheap technology for everyone to use

 

[Rapob]

This argument keeps mixing profitability with market health, and that’s where it falls apart.

Yes, the 60 and 70 series sells best. That’s because the low end has been hollowed out for years. When entry level cards are either missing, overpriced, or crippled by vram limits and narrow buses, people are forced to next level series. That doesn’t mean low end is waste silicon, it means it’s being neglected by design.

“Last gen midrange beats new low end” isn’t some law of physics. It’s the result of deliberate segmentation. Historically, 50 and 60 series cards actually moved generations forward at reasonable prices. The reason they don’t now is strategy, not inevitability.

Steam HW Survey showing 60 series dominance doesn’t prove lowend is pointless. It proves price sensitivity dominates the market. Most gamers buy what’s affordable, not what’s optimal. Kill the low end long enough and the midrange becomes the new entry point. That’s redefining, not proving lowend useless.

On vram pricing, if expensive memory really made lowend impossible, consoles wouldn’t exist. Fixed BOMs, balanced configurations, and long lifecycles keep costs down. PC GPUs are expensive because margins and segmentation demand it, not because silicon economics require it.

OEM only low end is part of the problem. When DIY buyers are told to buy used or stick to last gen, that’s a sign of a stalled product stack, not a healthy one. New buyers, budget builders, and first time PC gamers don’t live on eBay.

Reviving a 3060 in 2026 isn’t dominance, it’s stagnation. It’s an admission that nothing meaningful exists below the midrange anymore.

Skipping launches until 2027 while reissuing old skus doesn’t prove Nvidia is being smart. It proves the consumer GPU market is no longer the priority, and pretending that’s good for gamers is pure cope.

Somewhat true but did you see Steam Machine pricing? From rumours of 399-499 dollars to costing 999-1199 dollars.

Reviving 3060 is possible due to AMD not really competing. AMD could do better in graphics, especially gaming, but choose not to. Why? Because making dGPUs eats away at their CPU output, which uses same nodes at TSMC. That is AMDs biggest problem today and the reason for Nvidia dominance in the GPU market.

AMD prioritize CPUs, APUs and AI/Enterprise GPUs over gaming GPUs.

Radeon 9000 is decent but mid-end only. Stagnation too. The only improvement in 9000 series is FSR 4 and improved RT. Raster performance went back (compared to last gen flagship, 7900 XTX). VRAM size, got lower as well.

Both Nvidia and AMD is skipping 2026 gaming GPU launches. Latest rumours says AMD won't release anything new, till after RTX 6000 is out in 2027.