Russia and China successfully transmit two images over satellite using quantum communication

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Why it matters: This test represents an additional advancement in the practical use of quantum communication – a highly secure method of transmitting information that cannot be hacked. But the test is only the first step in a long road to solving technical difficulties.

Scientists from Russia and China have successfully demonstrated quantum communication over satellite. The test is significant as it portends the development of advanced encrypted communication networks that cannot be hacked by other nations and the possible establishment of a secure means of communication between BRIC (Brazil, Russia, India, China) countries. From a geopolitical perspective, it is further proof that Beijing and Moscow are deepening high-tech cooperation for military purposes.

The test used China's quantum satellite, Mozi, which was launched into orbit in 2016 and is managed mainly by the Chinese Academy of Sciences. It took place over a distance of 2,300 miles between a ground station in Zvenigorod, near Moscow, and another near Urumqi in China's northwestern Xinjiang region.

The encrypted transmission contained two images secured by quantum keys that were distributed from the Zvenigorod ground station, to the Mozi satellite in Earth orbit, and then transmitted to the station in China.

This latest test is an advancement of the research the two countries are conducting in quantum communications. Alexey Fedorov, from Russia's National University of Science and Technology and the Russian Quantum Centre, reported that Russia and China conducted their first full cycle test last year. Key to this endeavor is Mozi, which is expected to be central to developing both national and international quantum communication networks.

There are practical limitations to such a feat though. Scalability is still a problem as much of the advanced infrastructure needs to be built out.

Additionally, maintaining quantum signals over long distances remains problematic. That is because quantum communications use particles of light to transmit data and are in a highly fragile state. This process protects the data from being stolen, as the particles collapse if interfered with; however, it also limits the distance they can travel, explains Professor Marco Lucamarini from the University of York's Institute for Safe Autonomy and School of Physics, Engineering and Technology, who led a research team that successfully tested last year a fiber-optic cable to pass quantum communications under the Irish Sea between Ireland and England.

It was the longest stretch of fiber-optic cable ever used to enable quantum communications underwater. The longer the distance, however, the more likely it is that photons are lost, absorbed or scattered in the channel, which reduces the chances of the information reaching its target, Lucamarini said.

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But is it still limited by the speed of light, like before?
You are thinking about something completely different. Your suggestion is a communications method. What article is discussing is a communication format. Putting it another way, your talking about using radio or sound to transmit information, whereas this article is talking about the language being used to communicate. Hopeful that makes sense.
 
But is it still limited by the speed of light, like before?

It is fascinating, yes it doesn't beat the speed of light, But it kind of does.
If someone travelled in a spaceship say 2 lightyears away with tangled particles - then untangled one of them. The matching particle would untange on earth "at same time". The particle kind of knows it future, so did not travel at the speed of time.

"at same time" is maybe a human construct as time is not absolute , but as Einstein showed relative and depends on the observer.

To achieve this instant transfer of info, a lot of time and effort is needed , and you need a decode system in place.
Anyway scientist are setting records for distance between tangled particles , plus the largest thing that can be put in a quantum state. Larger masses have less probability to get into the state , and stay in that state.
In theory you could pop out of existence and pop out somewhere else - but not going to happen in the universes lifetime
 
To achieve this instant transfer of info, a lot of time and effort is needed , and you need a decode system in place.

There can be no instant transfer of information. It is not possible for the other side to measure that the particle's entanglement was broken. Their measurement will simply have an unrelated, random outcome. No information is communicated.
 
It is fascinating, yes it doesn't beat the speed of light, But it kind of does.
If someone travelled in a spaceship say 2 lightyears away with tangled particles - then untangled one of them. The matching particle would untange on earth "at same time". The particle kind of knows it future, so did not travel at the speed of time.

"at same time" is maybe a human construct as time is not absolute , but as Einstein showed relative and depends on the observer.

To achieve this instant transfer of info, a lot of time and effort is needed , and you need a decode system in place.
Anyway scientist are setting records for distance between tangled particles , plus the largest thing that can be put in a quantum state. Larger masses have less probability to get into the state , and stay in that state.
In theory you could pop out of existence and pop out somewhere else - but not going to happen in the universes lifetime
WHAT?
 
There can be no instant transfer of information. It is not possible for the other side to measure that the particle's entanglement was broken. Their measurement will simply have an unrelated, random outcome. No information is communicated.

Thanks
I would have thought just becoming untangled would be info, even if outcome is completely random.

eg if a dice is rolled at 5.00 am here and gets a 6
Then at some time a dice is rolled 1 year away and gets 1

I would have thought that's info- But obviously I do not understand it properly.

That bit about the future, seems to kind of right in those split experiments , like they know whats coming from the outset.

Anyway happy to be corrected, thanks again
 
There can be no instant transfer of information. It is not possible for the other side to measure that the particle's entanglement was broken. Their measurement will simply have an unrelated, random outcome. No information is communicated.
There can be, through wormholes.
 
Thanks
I would have thought just becoming untangled would be info, even if outcome is completely random.
I'm no particle physicist by any means. But I think this bit about 'becoming untangled' highlights a misunderstanding about quantum entanglement. There seem to be a fair few people that imagine the idea of particles being 'entangled' means that there is some sort of 'link' between them (which might then, as you mentioned, 'beat the speed of light').

There is no such link at all. Nothing that you can do to one of the particles, whether that is measuring one of its properties, or setting some property to a particular state - either of which effectively means that the particles become untangled - affects the other particle in any way!

The only thing that any of that does is invalidate the previous knowledge that you had about the (probability of) a particular outcome of a simultaneous measurement of some property of the entangled particles.

People have tried to come up with all sorts of schemes to see if entanglement might be used for faster than light communication. But it is not possible because there is no communication. No link.
 
Umm think the British GCHQ who are renown for their use of advanced computer technologies ie cracking 128 bit passwords 10 years before it was broken publicly. So there's rumours they have had Quantum Computers since they first came out and would have done stuff years ago but won't find out for another few years at least,
 
This is about Quantum communication, not quantum computers; they are two different topics. Quantum communications lets you send messages and know if they have or have not been seen by others. It is ideal for sending encryption keys; you send the key, and if the communication has not been seen by others you can use the key; if it has been tampered with, you discard the key and try again. If you can send large enough messages, your keys can be one time pads, a form of encryption that is simply not possible to break.
 
Clarify that this is a new record in distance, and between two countries. Previously, in 2020 (or 2019), China had already done it, but from facilities in its own territory.
 
There is a movie coming out (or did)about ww3 starting and astronauts fighting for survival on ISS.
I know, it is probably just another bad movie. But the idea seems very interesting.
 
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