Russia fines Reddit, Apple, and Wikipedia for not removing "fake" content related to Ukraine...

[Wye43]

How do you fine a company that is no longer operating in your country?

 

[Endymio]

Never mind that I saw the "bleach machination" an d the "Sharpie maneuver" newscast live, on network TV. It must have been a "deep fake", right?

Signed, you favorite teen aged girl.

I won't get into the moronic distortion of his remarks on medical research, but as for the media's outright lies about "Sharpie-Gate", CNN themselves broadcast the track of the Hurricane striking Alabama ... less than 24 hours later, they were claiming Trump fabricated it himself. If anyone doubts, here's the official word on it from NOAA:

"From Wednesday, August 28, through Monday, September 2, the information provided by NOAA and the National Hurricane Center to President Trump and the wider public demonstrated that tropical-storm-force winds from Hurricane Dorian could impact Alabama. This is clearly demonstrated in Hurricane Advisories #15 through #41, which can be viewed at the following link."

https://www.noaa.gov/news/statement-from-noaa

 

[captaincranky]

How do you fine a company that is no longer operating in your country?

Both spiritually, and in effigy just to trumpet that you have done so.

 

[captaincranky]

I won't get into the moronic distortion of his remarks on medical research, but as for the media's outright lies about "Sharpie-Gate", CNN themselves broadcast the track of the Hurricane striking Alabama ... less than 24 hours later, they were claiming Trump fabricated it himself. If anyone doubts, here's the official word on it from NOAA:

And here again, I watched network news live, when Trump told Dr. Fauci to "sit down", he was going to take it from there.

BTW, did you know Trump raised our national debt by almost 8 trillion (with a "T"), or is that "fake news" too? I think he did it by giving big tax cuts to the uber rich. But, I could be wrong, and I certainly will be to your way of "thinking".

I'm well aware that Trump's newscast was made after NOAA's announcement. Which is then when the DB in charge asked if "we could nuke it". I'd like to think he was joking. So when you find me an example of any sense of humor whatsoever in the man, give me a shout.

 

[Endymio]

"for not deleting the "knowingly false information" about the Soviet Union's actions during World War Two,"
Apparently a story of two most terrible people who lived back then who decided to divide the world
is upsetting for Russia. Mass murdering mass raping...WW2 is a history of shame and degeneracy of Russia."

During WW2, the Soviet Union was controlled by a Georgian (Stalin), and his cadre of Ukrainians such as Khrushchev and other Georgians (Beria). And our direct documentary evidence of WW2's Rape of Berlin (which sparked this action against Reddit) comes from the diaries of a Ukrainian Jewish officer named Vladimir Gelfand, who gleefully writes of the rapes and tortures he and his unit inflicted upon German women. Should we hold that against all modern-day Ukrainians? Or all the world's Jews?

And of course Gelfland's and the Soviet Army's acts pale in comparison to those of the Germans, who executed far more Russian civilians than they did Jews in the Holocaust. Hundreds of Russian towns and villages were wiped off of the map in a systematic campaign to eradicate what they considered a subhuman species. As a share of the population, the German onslaught against Russia is equivalent to three Sept-11 level terror attacks a day, each and every day for nine straight years in a row.

Then there's the Rape of Nanking -- the worst single-event war crime in human history -- which, until just a few years ago, the Japanese government refused to acknowledge as true. Or we could mention their brutal medical experiments on Chinese civilians in Manchuria, which make Dr. Mengele's look like childs play. Or their holding tens of thousands of Korean women as sex slaves throughout the war.

Every nation in WW2 committed atrocities. Unlike most of Europe, the USA homeland wasn't attacked directly, so US troops had less reason to seek revenge and retaliation, but even our own troops engaged in a smaller number of such acts. And if you prefer more recent history, we killed more civilians in Iraq carpet-bombing cities like Mosul, than Russia has civilians in Ukraine -- all to look for WMDs that didn't exist.

History is more complex than you imagine.

 

[Endymio]

I'm well aware that Trump's newscast was made after NOAA's announcement.

So you admit the media fabricated a lie about him attempting to "steer a hurricane with a Sharpie", but you continue to spread that disinformation yourself, years later? Wow. Just wow.

BTW, did you know Trump raised our national debt by almost 8 trillion

Learn how your country works. Budgets are written and passed by Congress. Nearly all of that $8T came after Democrats seized control of Congress in 2018, and immediately began demanding historic spending increases. Trump's refusal to bow to their demands for even larger budgets resulted in the longest federal government shutdown in US history. When two parties are fighting -- one to spend more, the other less -- it''s quite clear where the blame for that spending lies.

 

[captaincranky]

Nearly all of that $8T came after Democrats seized control of Congress in 2018

Sorry to point this out, but the Republicans had control of the senate until 2022.

"Congress" refers to both the House of Representatives (Equivalent the Britain's "House of Commons"), and the Senate. (Equivalent to Britain's "House of Lords").

What did you mean by "seized", anyway? If you meant that the Democrats beat the Republicans in a free and fair election, then you'd be right. <pun intended.

So, why not take some of your "advice", and well, go buy some Trump trading cards. Sorry, I meant, "learn how your government works".

 

[Endymio]

Sorry to point this out, but the Republicans had control of the senate until 2022.

Yes, and let's look at the differences between the House and the Senate. From a NYT article on the 2020 budget negotiations:

"Senate Republicans unveiled a $1 trillion proposal, narrowly tailored to Republican priorities. It includes slashing by two-thirds the $600-per-week unemployment payments...House Democrats approved a $3 trillion relief package: a sweeping measure that contains a number of Democratic priorities, including an extension of the jobless aid, nearly $200 billion for rental assistance and mortgage relief...."

And you're still ignoring the elephant in the room. Trump demanded less spending: Congress demanded more. Let's put the blame where blame is due.

 

[captaincranky]

"Senate Republicans unveiled a $1 trillion proposal, narrowly tailored to Republican priorities. It includes slashing by two-thirds the $600-per-week unemployment payments...House Democrats approved a $3 trillion relief package: a sweeping measure that contains a number of Democratic priorities, including an extension of the jobless aid, nearly $200 billion for rental assistance and mortgage relief...."

Is it really fair to "blame" any politician for including rent assistance relief and mortgage relief. They are, after all, there to do the work of the people AFAIK, that's what the people needed at the time.

But of course the covid epidemic wasn't real, so no assistance was needed. As for the "elephant in the room", I see it, and it's wearing a MAGA blanket.

PS: Donald Trump sent out the first set of covid relief checks, not Joe Biden. Of course they were offset for child support arrearages, and had to have HI$ signature on them. The next two weren't offset,. Trump planned all three issues of the checks, but failed to win reelection. So, you can blame that portion of the relief monies on Trump's spending, not Biden's.

Trump plaaned the check disbursement, Biden carried it out. Trump planned the withdrawal from Afghanistan, Biden dutifully carried it out. As for "COVID lock downs" being a farce about a non issue, in China, they were welding people's doors shut.

As for inflation, that's not Biden's fault either. A generous portion of it was profiteering, by everybody from the oil companies, to landlords. Then there were Trump's tariffs on Chinese goods. Someone had to be monumentally stupid to believe that the Chinese were going to absorb them. We all paid those tariffs, particularly those of us buying Chinese electronics.