So you only have PCI slots and want to game?

A good graphics card cannot always make up for other weaknesses of your system. Not all games are coded the same. I can't give examples but some games are more CPU intensive than others so a weak processor would not work as well with those games.
 
My FX5500 and BFG OC 6200 and 2400HD runs great on my computer. I only had problems with 2 cards for my computer ever, first it was the 2400, but the 8.9 beta drivers fix alot of those issues. And the 8400GS , well that took out my onboard sound and my guess it may be have been too powerful for my rig.

I don't have the 8400GS anymore, i took it back 3 days after buying it and testing it.

I am using the 2400 which works good, stays cool( 34c - 45c, ) and i am buying the 8500GT real soon.

If the 8400Gs did wipe out your onboard sound then maybe the card so not be sold, What's the max of ram you computer can have ?

PowerColor HD2400 PRO 256MB PCI Graphics Card

They are selling the pci in my local PC world.

http://www.pcworld.co.uk/martprd/st...m=null&tm=null&sku=056905&category_oid=-31465
 
If the 8400Gs did wipe out your onboard sound then maybe the card so not be sold, What's the max of ram you computer can have ?

Yea about my onboard sound, it never came back, so i just had to disable it and i use sound cards now. But when i bought my 8400GS, which requires a 300watts PSU. I had trouble putting in the thing in my small tower, the card is big, once i got the card in, for some reason i heard a popping/cracking sound, didn't pay it no mind, and like 5 mins later, the onboard sound was gone. Tried everything to bring it back, drivers, reinstalling windows98se, and xp, nothing lol So i just use sound cards now :)

PowerColor HD2400 PRO 256MB PCI Graphics Card

They are selling the pci in my local PC world.

http://www.pcworld.co.uk/martprd/st...m=null&tm=null&sku=056905&category_oid=-31465

I am using the Visiontek 2400HD PCI card
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I had all sorts of issues with this card, couldn't play about 80% of my games, now using the 8.9 beta drivers, the games which i have tested, older ones, all of them work great now.

However, if you plan on buying a 2400 PCI card, please do us all a fav and buy the Diamond Version, the card has 26.GB of bandwidth, not only that, its design is better, meaning it plays better. I am still thinking about buying it, just for testing and compare it to my visiontek one.
 
Yea about my onboard sound, it never came back, so i just had to disable it and i use sound cards now. But when i bought my 8400GS, which requires a 300watts PSU. I had trouble putting in the thing in my small tower, the card is big, once i got the card in, for some reason i heard a popping/cracking sound, didn't pay it no mind, and like 5 mins later, the onboard sound was gone. Tried everything to bring it back, drivers, reinstalling windows98se, and xp, nothing lol So i just use sound cards now :)



I am using the Visiontek 2400HD PCI card

I had all sorts of issues with this card, couldn't play about 80% of my games, now using the 8.9 beta drivers, the games which i have tested, older ones, all of them work great now.

However, if you plan on buying a 2400 PCI card, please do us all a fav and buy the Diamond Version, the card has 26.GB of bandwidth, not only that, its design is better, meaning it plays better. I am still thinking about buying it, just for testing and compare it to my visiontek one.

My friend bought a PowerColor 2400 PCI card, it runs with no problems at all on his Dell P4 based SFF. Your lack of sound is most likely due to your old motherboard starting to die, and is most likely not related to the 8400GS installation (Or, since you forced it in, you could have broken something on the motherboard along your attempts). Finally, the GPU-Z readings aren't an accurate representation of memory bandwidth and I am still trying to figure out why you are saying the design of the card is better. Proof ?
 
My friend bought a PowerColor 2400 PCI card, it runs with no problems at all on his Dell P4 based SFF.

yea i never said anything was wrong with the visiontek or powercolor one, i said i would just buy the Diamond version.

you could have broken something on the motherboard along your attempts).

Yea i had that same thought after i had a hard time putting the thing is, if this is true, amazing how i only hit a sound cord or something haha. I use sound cards now tho, so everything is fine. The card was big and wide, the 8400GS IS THE biggest PCI card i ever seen.


I am still trying to figure out why you are saying the design of the card is better. Proof ?

LOL, forgive me man, i just like Diamond better. I plan to buy it myself, to see just how it is and i will let everyone know.
 
Take a look at this:

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POWERCOLOR 2400 HD PCI SPECS

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Visiontek 2400HD PCI

Also just to note, the powercolor one is still good if you have a good computer. I am watcing a video on youtube, where someone is using the powercolor 2400 to play crysis and he plays it well.
 
First time posting found this site while looking for information on Pci cards and I do have a question I am a gamer mostly old school games like nwn's civ and my main addiction Warcraft. I am looking at the eVGA GeForce 6200 256MB or the powercolor hd 2400 pro..Right now system specs are p4 2.93ghz processor 2gbs of ram 300watt psu and I am unsure as to what card would compliment my system as right now I am using the onboard graphics card, any advise would be most welcome.
 
Both good cards, I can only comment on the 6200 which is quite cheap and good performance. Probably little room to overclock though. Also worth trying to find a 128-bit version of the 6200 card
 
First time posting found this site while looking for information on Pci cards and I do have a question I am a gamer mostly old school games like nwn's civ and my main addiction Warcraft. I am looking at the eVGA GeForce 6200 256MB or the powercolor hd 2400 pro..Right now system specs are p4 2.93ghz processor 2gbs of ram 300watt psu and I am unsure as to what card would compliment my system as right now I am using the onboard graphics card, any advise would be most welcome.

I would go with the:

2400 line of card, buy the diamond version, if you get the 6200 card, skip the evga because it gets too hot, get the BFG version at newegg.

Both good cards, I can only comment on the 6200 which is quite cheap and good performance. Probably little room to overclock though. Also worth trying to find a 128-bit version of the 6200 card

There is no 6200 128BIT PCI card.
 
I thank you all for the advice the issue I have is I dont have a creadit card to speak of so the only two pci cards to be found in my area are the geforce 6200 or the powercolor hd 2400 pro.
 
Dude, grab the powercolor 2400hd. So your computer specs will help the card run alot of games with ease. Also, make sure you download 8.9 drivers. :)
 
8500GT with latest nVidia driver and SP3

OK, so I got around to updating to the July release from nVidia. The PC also auto-updated to SP3 which seemed to go through fine.

These results are with no overclocking, just vanilla settings

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I thank you all for the advice the issue I have is I dont have a creadit card to speak of so the only two pci cards to be found in my area are the geforce 6200 or the powercolor hd 2400 pro.

go for the ATI powercolor hd2400 that is a better card.

you get artifacts with the 6200 nvidia. :(
 
OK, so I got around to updating to the July release from nVidia. The PC also auto-updated to SP3 which seemed to go through fine.

These results are with no overclocking, just vanilla settings

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Nice, i am buying the 8500GT very soon. I might be able to buy the albatron 8600gt as well, i will let you guys know know mid oct if i am able to get it.


go for the ATI powercolor hd2400 that is a better card.

you get artifacts with the 6200 nvidia. :(

The 6200 card is cool, but yea artifacts on timeshift and a few other games. When i was using it, i tried to fix it, but no luck.
 
I thank you all for the advice the issue I have is I dont have a creadit card to speak of so the only two pci cards to be found in my area are the geforce 6200 or the powercolor hd 2400 pro.

Hello all, I'm back online again after the power went down because of Hurricane Ike. I recommend ordering the Sparkle 8500GT online instead of getting these other cards and waiting a few extra days to receive your video card as opposed to simply driving to the store and getting it. Reason being is that the Sparkle 8500GT is much more powerful than those other cards and you will get much better results in your applications from this than the other cards. I used to own one and I can vouch that it is the absolute best PCI video card available today (until Albatron makes it's 8600GT available to the US).
 
I think they take money orders, but you know just grab the powercolor2400. You can run games better, because of your CPU which is pretty good. So go for it and test out some games and see how it goes.
 
There is no way to increase the bandwidth on that card to equal a 128-bit card because it is 64-bit interface, no matter how much you OC, the bandwidth will not equal that of a 128-bit video card. I noticed slight improvements in bandwidth stats when I OC'ed my 8500GT, so it is not like you can't improve it at all, but I highly recommend starting with the Sparkle 8500GT and OC'ing that card instead of a much less powerful one.

Like tha general said, if the online store takes money orders and you don't have a credit card, then by all means do that for a Sparkle 8500GT. The PCI bus interface is wretchedly slow to start with and putting anything less in your PCI slot only PC will result in substandard application performance IMO.

I am using a FX 5500 and it is depressing how much far less powerful it is compared to the 8500GT, but that is exactly why I sold it, so I couldn't play video games like I really wanted to and to force myself to focus on other pursuits for the time being.

I might do some awesome tweaks and mods to this PC later to get it to run Oblivion on full settings, but I'm focusing on my work for now.
 
There is no PCI card that has 22 GB bandwidth. The best right now is the 8500GT by Sparkle and that has 12.8, every other card is less.

My card is an Axle brand FX 5500. I got it off eBay really cheap. Pretty good for the price and really helps surf the net faster. I am looking into replacing my OEM mobo with the same make and model but with an AGP slot, so I don't have to reinstall Windows XP hopefully. I want to put a HD 3850 in an AGPx4 slot, which has almost 4 times the transfer rate of my PCI slots.

Sparkle 8500GT PCI vs. HIS HD 3850 512MB AGP 4x

Here is the screenshot you asked for General.

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I am looking into replacing my OEM mobo with the same make and model but with an AGP slot, so I don't have to reinstall Windows XP hopefully. I want to put a HD 3850 in an AGPx4 slot, which has almost 4 times the transfer rate of my PCI slots.


Yea the HD3850 Is pretty good and powerful, hope everything works out with it. I should have my new computer, secondary one sometime next month, i am buying a 4670 PCIE card, it doesn't need a PSU connector and its very powerful, check it out:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102792

Here is the screenshot you asked for General.

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Here is the one from my 3dfuzion FX5500
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This card is pretty good, because its not a low end one. Its like midrange.
 
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