Upcoming AMD Dragon Range mobile processors will supposedly feature up to 16 cores

Tudor Cibean

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TL;DR: According to new leaks, AMD's Dragon Range mobile processors will have up to 16 cores and clock rates above 5 GHz. Meanwhile, the company's Phoenix lineup will feature fewer CPU cores but far better iGPU performance, thanks to the new RDNA3 architecture.

We've already had plenty of leaks regarding AMD's next-gen Ryzen 7000 desktop CPUs, but now we get to hear more about the alleged specs of its Zen 4-based mobile lineup, courtesy of YouTube channel Red Gaming Tech.

Rumors indicate that AMD's Dragon Range series will use desktop-class CPUs transferred into a thinner BGA package, similarly to Intel's Alder Lake-HX lineup. As a result, Dragon Range will feature up to 16 cores on the highest-end SKU, boost speeds of at least 5 GHz, and only two RDNA2 compute units. Laptop manufacturers will probably only use these processors in models with discrete graphics cards, making the underpowered iGPU a non-issue.

Meanwhile, AMD's Phoenix series will have TDPs ranging from 35W to 45W, targeting thin and light laptops instead. These processors will come with up to eight cores, trading CPU power for more capable integrated graphics and lower power consumption.

Phoenix processors will also supposedly feature AMD's new RDNA3 graphics architecture with up to 12 compute units. The leaker claims that the flagship model's iGPU might go up to 3 GHz, giving it a maximum compute performance of 9.2 TFLOPs, as much as some Nvidia GeForce RTX 3060 Laptop variants.

AMD's Dragon Range and Phoenix CPUs will arrive sometime next year. However, the company's desktop Raphael lineup will launch later this year, giving us a first taste of the Zen 4 architecture.

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Irata

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Tbh, am not thrilled at higher power processors coming to mobile from AMD but if there‘s a market for this and we don‘t get into the insane Intel ‚mobile‘ power envelope, why not.

On that note, I am, curious if reviewers will be as excited wrt Dragon Range as they were towards the 12x000 H series featuring 90+ W permanent power in some models and an even higher boost power.
 

maxxcool7421

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I am not opposed... but this feels like a attention grab. it also feels like they are nearing the towards a dropping ROI on generation:power efficiency and now they are following Intel's miss-steps with 20 cores in a laptop.
 

NeoMorpheus

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Tbh, am not thrilled at higher power processors coming to mobile from AMD but if there‘s a market for this and we don‘t get into the insane Intel ‚mobile‘ power envelope, why not.

On that note, I am, curious if reviewers will be as excited wrt Dragon Range as they were towards the 12x000 H series featuring 90+ W permanent power in some models and an even higher boost power.

Depending on the models, remember that some people are still using "portable workstations" as laptops, so who knows if this is the intent.
 

Irata

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Depending on the models, remember that some people are still using "portable workstations" as laptops, so who knows if this is the intent.
True.
Can‘t wait for reviews stating ‚but it uses too much power, so not good for a laptop‘ though. Wanna bet that will happen ?
 

Mr Majestyk

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Tbh, am not thrilled at higher power processors coming to mobile from AMD but if there‘s a market for this and we don‘t get into the insane Intel ‚mobile‘ power envelope, why not.

On that note, I am, curious if reviewers will be as excited wrt Dragon Range as they were towards the 12x000 H series featuring 90+ W permanent power in some models and an even higher boost power.

It's targeting the high end gaming laptop market. You want Phoenix or Phoenix Point, it's a more balanced lower power APU. Better iGPU, less cpu cores 35-45W. AMD is sick of Intel marketing it's AL HX processors against Rembrandt even though that are not the same market segment, so they developed Dragon Range specifically to take on HX.
 

Irata

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It's targeting the high end gaming laptop market. You want Phoenix or Phoenix Point, it's a more balanced lower power APU. Better iGPU, less cpu cores 35-45W. AMD is sick of Intel marketing it's AL HX processors against Rembrandt even though that are not the same market segment, so they developed Dragon Range specifically to take on HX.
Totally agree on all points.

I am just curious if the same reviewers who praised power guzzlers like the 12700 H will complain about Dragon Range using too much power / being a desktop chip in disguise.