Europe is moving to block Microsoft, Amazon, and Google from handling government health, financial, and legal data

[ActualViking]

Then European countries are slowly become one nation under the control of the European Union. I think they are realizing this is the only way they can compete on the 21st century geopolitical stage with super powers like the USA and China. Otherwise, they are just an assortment of small countries at the mercy of these two and maybe Russia.

Russia is a dying giant, their economy is tiny compared to the EU/US/China - they rank 11th on GDP and maybe 5th if only looking at Europe (lower if not using inflated made up Russian figures).

And as for the European countries, for starters only 27 of the countries are part of the EU and the countries in the EU all have veto power so the centralized control is limited.

 

[Squid Surprise]

Are you for real pretending the USI* is more trustworthy than China?

I am not pretending… and there is no USI…

The US that among other things is saying it will take Greenland, make Canada the 51st state, is using tariffs as a weapon, making lies about never having been helped by NATO partners... and has a corrupt criminal and frankly childish pathetic president.

I’ll take US corruption over Chinese dictatorships any day…

*Iran is right, it not USA anymore as Donald, his voters and the GOP has made it the USI.

So “I” stands for Iran?!? They’re not one country… Iran is a religious dictatorship that funds more terrorists than any other nation…

 

[jpers1]

No worries, we already have a lot of EU based cloud solutions, which are often cheaper and more reliable, e.g. Hetzner. Additionally, using proton mail and other proton solution is much more robust and reliable than google or ms email, and fully encrypted. I don't know what you prefer, but I see no reason to be a google product.

This is insane take. There is almost no AI inference infrastructure in EU, and it is EU's fault - hyperregulation. Now at least US companies offer a contractual possibility for one to be GDPR compliant with (pseudoanonymized) personal data. Chinese do not. I do not see China anywhere on the list.

So what will happen now? Undoubtedly - illegally and in secret - the data will flow to moonshot.ai, Alibaba, DeepSeek and ton of other Chinese providers with zero GDPR compliance.

Good Lord!

 

[jpers1]

The choice is not between “AI use” and “no AI use.” That fantasy exists only in the heads of regulators and institutional leadership.

The real choice is between visible, governed, logged, institutionally approved AI use — and invisible personal-account AI use happening in browser tabs, private subscriptions, screenshots, pasted documents, and unofficial APIs.

Teachers will use it. Kindergarten staff will use it. Researchers will use it. Doctors will use it. Civil servants will use it. Not because they are reckless, but because the work is already overwhelming and the tools are too useful to ignore.

So if EU policy makes compliant mainstream providers unusable before realistic European alternatives exist, it will not magically create sovereign AI. It will create shadow AI.

Sensitive workflows will not disappear. They will move underground — to personal accounts and cheaper foreign providers, including systems with much weaker practical guarantees and far less accountability.

That is not data protection. That is privacy theatre.

 

[ActualViking]

I am not pretending… and there is no USI…

I’ll take US corruption over Chinese dictatorships any day…

So “I” stands for Iran?!? They’re not one country… Iran is a religious dictatorship that funds more terrorists than any other nation…

The 'I' doesn't stand for Iran and it doesn't stand for intelligence either. If you look I'm sure you can find the post, where an Iranian official commented on how it was to negotiate with the current US administration and made the statement about USA/USI.

With the orange clown in the WH, his government, the yes men that is the GOP and the 1/3 of voters which still support the clown despite all the disasters, the corruption and general leading American down the drain.

 

[Squid Surprise]

I stands for *****s, as the orange clown in the WH, his government, the yes men that is the GOP and the 1/3 of voters which still support the clown despite all the disasters, the corruption and general leading American down the drain.

Might want to edit *****s

 

[dangh]

This is insane take. There is almost no AI inference infrastructure in EU, and it is EU's fault - hyperregulation. Now at least US companies offer a contractual possibility for one to be GDPR compliant with (pseudoanonymized) personal data. Chinese do not. I do not see China anywhere on the list.

So what will happen now? Undoubtedly - illegally and in secret - the data will flow to moonshot.ai, Alibaba, DeepSeek and ton of other Chinese providers with zero GDPR compliance.

Good Lord!

Nebius, mistral, infercom, berget, scaleway, ionos, many more. They are as well gdpr compliant and that's no issue whatsoever, and all eu based. Data flies nowhere, because why we should use Chinese providers? We're fine, thank you. Sure, we do not treat our citizens like free data slaves so companies who do not care about intellectual properties and data ownership will have bit better start, but I'm happy to wait a bit and use something respecting people here, not only monies.

 

[bloomsun]

Chinese do not. I do not see China anywhere on the list.
So what will happen now? Undoubtedly - illegally and in secret - the data will flow to moonshot.ai, Alibaba, DeepSeek and ton of other Chinese providers with zero GDPR compliance.

Thats actually misinformation from propaganda because - China bad. -.-

China actually has a comprehensive privacy law—PIPL, effective since 2021—that mirrors GDPR in many ways: explicit consent, data minimization, breach notifications, and individual rights. Penalties go up to 5% of global turnover, slightly higher than GDPR's 4%.